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Sweden's head of no-lockdown plan said the country's heavy death toll 'came as a surprise'

CaughtInThe said:
it's almost like it had something to do with population density.
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Right! Now why on Earth wasn't New York one of the first places to shut down? Why weren't the elderly protected?
 
Mongidig said:
Right! Now why on Earth wasn't New York one of the first places to shut down? Why weren't the elderly protected?
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hang on now. many Trump supporters (even to this day on this board) are saying we should have never shut anything down. are you now saying those people are idiots?
 
LosAngelesAngel said:
~ I think we should all be mad as Hell at China . This could have been avoided. CCP has to go...
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They lied to trump and now he's pregnant.

Doesn't he bear any responsibility for spreading his legs?

Should he be able to terminate his "pregnancy" now by shifting blame to china?
 
What if...? said:
With a variant that came from Italy.

That china travel shutdown worked SO well.
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I don't care if that variant came from your mom. They should have shut down earlier.
 
What if...? said:
They lied to trump and now he's pregnant.

Doesn't he bear any responsibility for spreading his legs?

Should he be able to terminate his "pregnancy" now by shifting blame to china?
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You sound like a Biden supporter!
 
CaughtInThe said:
hang on now. many Trump supporters (even to this day on this board) are saying we should have never shut anything down. are you now saying those people are idiots?
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The real idiots are those who think they have all the answers given an extremely small sample size of data that changes daily.

I've never been in the "we should never have shut anything camp". People like you think that because you are too busy dishing out your hatred and misery all day. Wipe the Corona out of your ears and try to listen for once.
 
Mongidig said:
Unfortunately for those who live in dense environments drastic measures needed to be taken.
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But then the US would had politicians calling to liberate NYC.

But in general I agree with you.
 
Mongidig said:
The real idiots are those who think they have all the answers given an extremely small sample size of data that changes daily.

I've never been in the "we should never have shut anything camp". People like you think that because you are too busy dishing out your hatred and misery all day. Wipe the Corona out of your ears and try to listen for once.
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you sound like a Democratic Governor.
 
beefheart said:
Tell that to the dead people.
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Everyone dies. What’s the point?

Any life worth living comes with risks. It is not right to destroy billions of lives around the world economically and subject them to police state authoritarianism in order to save a small handful of people who are either old and nearing death or people who choose to become obese. And furthermore, without a vaccine there is nothing else that can be done anyway. Eventually you will get infected. So it’s far better to pay the costs on the front end.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Everyone dies. What’s the point?

Any life worth living comes with risks. It is not right to destroy billions of lives around the world economically and subject them to police state authoritarianism in order to save a small handful of people who are either old and nearing death or people who choose to become obese. And furthermore, without a vaccine there is nothing else that can be done anyway. Eventually you will get infected. So it’s far better to pay the costs on the front end.
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Everyone dies. But people dying needlessly because of a bad political decision, not good.

Look at you, pushing eugenics...
 
beefheart said:
Everyone dies. But people dying needlessly because of a bad political decision, not good.

Look at you, pushing eugenics...
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You have no right to not get sick that is enforceable through the government.

I am also not advocating eugenics, it you would like to know more about eugenics then you can look up “planned parenthood” in the yellow pages
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Everyone dies. What’s the point?

Any life worth living comes with risks. It is not right to destroy billions of lives around the world economically and subject them to police state authoritarianism in order to save a small handful of people who are either old and nearing death or people who choose to become obese. And furthermore, without a vaccine there is nothing else that can be done anyway. Eventually you will get infected. So it’s far better to pay the costs on the front end.
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What a ****ing stupid post.
There is plenty that can be done now to control the virus.
There are too many stupid ****ing people who must be managed in order to reduce virus expansion risks.
Same reason that we have laws in this country - they’re for the stupid people.
 
charliebrown said:
I absolutely amazes me how such a modern, progressive society is being bashed for their scientific/social approach to this problem. Their decision was based on looking out across a one too two year period prior to vaccine. We are not even six months into this pandemic and some experts are calling the swedish scientists decision a complete failure.

This decision is absolutely going to look wrong for the first wave. If a second wave starts up this fall and sweden is the only country with herd immunity, chances are that the total death rates from start of pandemic to vaccine can normalize out.

All of us should realize that their are no winners and losers in these decisions, they are all difficult to make and the people making them are probably doing what they think is best for their society.
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Or at the behest of their donors.

We would be wise to remember how much market share is up for grabs right now.

Strong incentive to put others' lives at risk.
 
Rawley said:
IF you go by death count, a lot more than New York
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It's a special kinda never-seen-a-college ignorance to compare Sweden and NYC.
 
ecofarm said:
It's a special kinda never-seen-a-college ignorance to compare Sweden and NYC.
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It's an advanced course at Trump University...
 
EMNofSeattle said:
I am against murder, I am not against natural death.
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Let's test that theorem... For/against: Traffic controls (turn signals, traffic lights, speed limits, stop signs, railroad crossing light/signs)? Food safety? Poison control? Firearm control? Seat belts/hard hats? Hand washing?
 
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