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66% of New York state coronavirus hospitalizations are people staying at HOME

apdst said:
It means this:

"Now, state Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced that 66% of new hospitalizations are from people who say they have been locked in their homes, according to CNBC."
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Except that no one has been "locked in their homes."
 
JasperL said:
I agree. What it shows, at the core, is stay at home orders with lots of exceptions such as going out for FOOD, and DRUGS, and to get other essentials, or to take the dog out for a walk or for a walk around the block, or the many other reasons people not working do in fact leave their house, are not 100% effective in stopping the spread of a highly contagious virus.

Well, who in the hell would have thought otherwise?

What the results do not in any way show is that stay at home guidelines do not slow the spread of COVID 19. Of course the idiots at Daily Mail imply it but if they believe it they are morons, too stupid on this subject to tie their shoes. To show it's not effective in slowing the disease requires something of a counterfactual - rate of spread without stay at home orders. They don't have it or anything like it or even nod to such a metric being necessary, because they are idiots, or trolls/flamethrowers.
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You folks are some kinda pissed off that the lockdowns aren't working.
 
apdst said:
It's going to get ugly if this turns out to be a solid fact.

66% of New York coronavirus hospitalizations are people staying at HOME | Daily Mail Online
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In a study of some 1,000 new patients admitted to New York hospitals over the last week

JENNIFER SMITH FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

The writer of the article you cite writes the above claim, but never cites the name of the study, who did the study, actually nothing about the study. Jennifer Smith is a hack.

66% of New York coronavirus hospitalizations are people staying at HOME | Daily Mail Online
 
Jetboogieman said:
Did you go to school for Covid 19?
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The op's argument can be demolished easily with logic. Indeed, it can indicate the lockdown worked. This one statement by Cuomo means nothing on its own with regard to the lockdown. It could be exactly what we'd expect. Nursing homes, jails and other situations with close contact were hit first. The percentage of these cases is now down. Another group, though not as vulnerable as the previous groups, would be workers. The virus has already made its way through that demographic. The last to be hit would of course be those staying home, and that's what we're seeing. This is how the end of an epidemic should look.

The virus strikes in waves.
 
Taylor said:
I have to roll my eyes every time one of you white guys from Chicago bring this up. There isn't a worse place to be on the entire planet than Chicago right now if you happen to be black.
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But I saw that the mayor broke her own rules to get her hair done because she has to keep up her appearance because she is constantly on camera. Gee I would love to get my hair, nails done wouldn't you? I have already taken the scissors to my hair once. My corona19 hairdo looks like that whitehaired dude that played in Back to the Future.
 
apdst said:
It means this:

"Now, state Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced that 66% of new hospitalizations are from people who say they have been locked in their homes, according to CNBC."
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Where does it say they were locked in homes?
 
apdst said:
You folks are some kinda pissed off that the lockdowns aren't working.
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Why did you put that part in bold then confirm the premise? Thanks for making my point nicely, though. Appreciate it!
 
“This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home,” Cuomo said during a briefing on Long Island. “We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.”

A total of 46% of new cases were unemployed and 37% were retired. Age also played a factor, the data shows that 73% of people being hospitalized were 51 and older, the survey found.

Most of the hospitalizations have been concentrated in the city and surrounding suburbs, which have been hit hard by the pandemic, Cuomo added.
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Probably they were infected in their neighborhoods while jogging or doing grocery shopping, which are allowed. The air in the inner city of New York must be so contaminated with the virus that breathing the air may be dangerous in the city and surrounding suburbs.
 
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vesper said:
But I saw that the mayor broke her own rules to get her hair done because she has to keep up her appearance because she is constantly on camera. Gee I would love to get my hair, nails done wouldn't you? I have already taken the scissors to my hair once. My corona19 hairdo looks like that whitehaired dude that played in Back to the Future.
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My local barber put out a message on our local Facebook town group. They look forward to "fixing all those Covid 19 self cuts". I have been trimming, having the wife cut it is a last resort.
 
apdst said:
It means this:

"Now, state Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced that 66% of new hospitalizations are from people who say they have been locked in their homes, according to CNBC."
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Yes, I realize you do not understand what it means.
 
Michael Cole said:
The op's argument can be demolished easily with logic. Indeed, it can indicate the lockdown worked. This one statement by Cuomo means nothing on its own with regard to the lockdown. It could be exactly what we'd expect. Nursing homes, jails and other situations with close contact were hit first. The percentage of these cases is now down. Another group, though not as vulnerable as the previous groups, would be workers. The virus has already made its way through that demographic. The last to be hit would of course be those staying home, and that's what we're seeing. This is how the end of an epidemic should look.

The virus strikes in waves.
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I don't follow your reasoning. Seems like Cuomo statement was pretty clear. This 66% of new admissions last week were stay-at-homers. They were essential workers, they didn't take public transport - they stayed at home.
 
apdst said:
The lockdown strategu isn't looking like a winner, right about now.
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The experts were thrown for a loop by this virus and its outbreak, and were reduced to guessing and trusting models who's output was only as good as the data it was fed (garbage in, garbage out).

The political leaders trusting and believing the guessing experts followed what they thought were the best public policies based on flawed information they had at the time.

Now that harder and better data is coming in, we find out that the above outline was in fact the case.

Still, better to make public policy decisions on flawed data than to make no public policy decisions at all.
I say this while also taking into account what is now being revealed from the harder and better data that is coming in.

Any leader facing this situation of the last 2-3 months in a terrible catch-22. No matter what decision they make, its simply not going to turn out well for 100% of the people, and for those that it doesn't it'll be the completely wrong decision. They simply can't win, regardless of their actions and their decisions.

You may not like those facts, but they are indeed the facts, the same as the fact that it is better to make decision on flawed and partial data than to make no decision at all.

My position is this stance applies to Newsom, Cuomo, all the other governors, and also the President and the administration.

You may not even like this position of mine. I really don't care.
I see this position as a non-partisan position, and I see it as a fair and impartial position.
I see this position as a position more founded in fact and reality than any partisan position from which political attacks are launched.

Have a nice day, evening, afternoon, or whatever.
 
Michael Cole said:
The op's argument can be demolished easily with logic. Indeed, it can indicate the lockdown worked. This one statement by Cuomo means nothing on its own with regard to the lockdown. It could be exactly what we'd expect. Nursing homes, jails and other situations with close contact were hit first. The percentage of these cases is now down. Another group, though not as vulnerable as the previous groups, would be workers. The virus has already made its way through that demographic. The last to be hit would of course be those staying home, and that's what we're seeing. This is how the end of an epidemic should look.

The virus strikes in waves.
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How difficult is it to understand community spread? New Yorkers, meaning residents of NY are allowed to grocery shop, go to the pharmacy, work in essential jobs and services. And there are the asymptomatic who spread the virus unbeknownst.
 
Hari Seldon said:
My local barber put out a message on our local Facebook town group. They look forward to "fixing all those Covid 19 self cuts". I have been trimming, having the wife cut it is a last resort.
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That's cute.
Even hair stylists/barbers can't cut their own hair. I am sure as soon as they are allowed to open they will be booked solid for weeks.
 
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