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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by captaintrips View Post
    Both cars and bicycles kill also.

    As do cigarettes, bee stings and pencils.... and many other things.
    the commonality is that you have a way of not spitting virus particles, and not doing so is a direct threat to human life. Just as you can't go into a room and start randomly firing bullets that have the potential to kill, even if it is not intentional

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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    You are absolutely correct... You may decline to wear a mask all day long on your own property.... Going out in public however, you must comply with the laws and orders of the state... For instance, I am free to walk around my home nude all day long... Walking in public nude will often result in an indecency charge...
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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

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    the commonality is that you have a way of not spitting virus particles, and not doing so is a direct threat to human life. Just as you can't go into a room and start randomly firing bullets that have the potential to kill, even if it is not intentional
    One - "spitting" virus particles - isn't similar to the other - going into a room randomly firing a gun.

    There are actual laws regulating and controlling the use of fire-arms. Which are items created by people for a purpose - law enforcement personnel use & carry them, military personnel use & carry them, people in general CAN use and carry them.

    Viruses have been with us, mutating and attacking us for as long as we've been on earth. They are part of earths life systems.

    A person entering a room and firing a gun at random at people, IS an intentional act of malice. A person who enters a room and breathes, is not an intentional act of malice.

    We have to remember, if the world reacts this way to every new strain of virus that's particularly hard on us, we will quickly go back to real primitive and very rough times.

    This isn't something civilization can withstand for too long, or too many times.

    If you're healthy and think you're doing the world a favor by hiding in your home like a mole, go ahead. But it serves no purpose.

    We should also be aware that our governors need to tread a bit more lightly, as I've been saying; Laws are the work of LEGISLATORS, not governors.

    None of these orders were passed by our representatives. They were issued as orders by power hungry busy bodies.

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    Monday, April 27, 2020

    Attorney General William P. Barr ..

    “If a state or local ordinance crosses the line from an appropriate exercise of authority to stop the spread of COVID-19 into an overbearing infringement of constitutional and statutory protections, the Department of Justice may have an obligation to address that overreach in federal court,” Mr. Barr wrote in a memo to the 93 U.S. attorneys.

    Mr. Barr also directed Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Eric Dreiband and U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan Matthew Schneider to monitor state and local policies for potential violations.

    The two officials will work with state and local governments as well as other federal agencies, according to the memo. They will be on the alert for coronavirus response policies that restrict free speech or religious liberty as well as other constitutional rights.

    “Many policies that would be unthinkable in regular times have become commonplace in recent weeks, and we do not want to unduly interfere with the important efforts of state and local officials to protect the public. But the Constitution is not suspended in times of crisis,” Mr. Barr wrote.

    “We must therefore be vigilant to ensure its protections are preserved, at the same time that the public is protected,” he continued.

    Throughout the pandemic, Mr. Barr has been outspoken against coronavirus restrictions, which he has described as “draconian.”

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    William Barr orders legal action against governors whose COVID-19 actions infringe on civil rights - Washington Times
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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by captaintrips View Post
    One - "spitting" virus particles - isn't similar to the other - going into a room randomly firing a gun.

    There are actual laws regulating and controlling the use of fire-arms. Which are items created by people for a purpose - law enforcement personnel use & carry them, military personnel use & carry them, people in general CAN use and carry them.

    Viruses have been with us, mutating and attacking us for as long as we've been on earth. They are part of earths life systems.

    A person entering a room and firing a gun at random at people, IS an intentional act of malice. A person who enters a room and breathes, is not an intentional act of malice.

    We have to remember, if the world reacts this way to every new strain of virus that's particularly hard on us, we will quickly go back to real primitive and very rough times.

    This isn't something civilization can withstand for too long, or too many times.

    If you're healthy and think you're doing the world a favor by hiding in your home like a mole, go ahead. But it serves no purpose.

    We should also be aware that our governors need to tread a bit more lightly, as I've been saying; Laws are the work of LEGISLATORS, not governors.

    None of these orders were passed by our representatives. They were issued as orders by power hungry busy bodies.

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    Monday, April 27, 2020

    Attorney General William P. Barr ..

    “If a state or local ordinance crosses the line from an appropriate exercise of authority to stop the spread of COVID-19 into an overbearing infringement of constitutional and statutory protections, the Department of Justice may have an obligation to address that overreach in federal court,” Mr. Barr wrote in a memo to the 93 U.S. attorneys.

    Mr. Barr also directed Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Eric Dreiband and U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan Matthew Schneider to monitor state and local policies for potential violations.

    The two officials will work with state and local governments as well as other federal agencies, according to the memo. They will be on the alert for coronavirus response policies that restrict free speech or religious liberty as well as other constitutional rights.

    “Many policies that would be unthinkable in regular times have become commonplace in recent weeks, and we do not want to unduly interfere with the important efforts of state and local officials to protect the public. But the Constitution is not suspended in times of crisis,” Mr. Barr wrote.

    “We must therefore be vigilant to ensure its protections are preserved, at the same time that the public is protected,” he continued.

    Throughout the pandemic, Mr. Barr has been outspoken against coronavirus restrictions, which he has described as “draconian.”

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    William Barr orders legal action against governors whose COVID-19 actions infringe on civil rights - Washington Times
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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by ldsrptcvt View Post
    Besides, what does it say about Americans....
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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    What is so difficult and non Christian about doing whatever one can to do what is right, about whatever one can do to protect life, prevent suffering? Isn't that our duty?
    That depends on who you ask. It depends on what their motives are to define "our duty" and how they wish to define what life is, and/or what value a life even IS.

    Now that a large segment of Americans have abandoned Christian principles, it all depends .... what IS "freedom" after-all ? We forgot
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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by captaintrips View Post
    One - "spitting" virus particles - isn't similar to the other - going into a room randomly firing a gun.

    There are actual laws regulating and controlling the use of fire-arms. Which are items created by people for a purpose - law enforcement personnel use & carry them, military personnel use & carry them, people in general CAN use and carry them.

    Viruses have been with us, mutating and attacking us for as long as we've been on earth. They are part of earths life systems.

    A person entering a room and firing a gun at random at people, IS an intentional act of malice. A person who enters a room and breathes, is not an intentional act of malice.

    We have to remember, if the world reacts this way to every new strain of virus that's particularly hard on us, we will quickly go back to real primitive and very rough times.

    This isn't something civilization can withstand for too long, or too many times.

    If you're healthy and think you're doing the world a favor by hiding in your home like a mole, go ahead. But it serves no purpose.

    We should also be aware that our governors need to tread a bit more lightly, as I've been saying; Laws are the work of LEGISLATORS, not governors.

    None of these orders were passed by our representatives. They were issued as orders by power hungry busy bodies.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Monday, April 27, 2020

    Attorney General William P. Barr ..

    “If a state or local ordinance crosses the line from an appropriate exercise of authority to stop the spread of COVID-19 into an overbearing infringement of constitutional and statutory protections, the Department of Justice may have an obligation to address that overreach in federal court,” Mr. Barr wrote in a memo to the 93 U.S. attorneys.

    Mr. Barr also directed Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights Eric Dreiband and U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan Matthew Schneider to monitor state and local policies for potential violations.

    The two officials will work with state and local governments as well as other federal agencies, according to the memo. They will be on the alert for coronavirus response policies that restrict free speech or religious liberty as well as other constitutional rights.

    “Many policies that would be unthinkable in regular times have become commonplace in recent weeks, and we do not want to unduly interfere with the important efforts of state and local officials to protect the public. But the Constitution is not suspended in times of crisis,” Mr. Barr wrote.

    “We must therefore be vigilant to ensure its protections are preserved, at the same time that the public is protected,” he continued.

    Throughout the pandemic, Mr. Barr has been outspoken against coronavirus restrictions, which he has described as “draconian.”

    ...

    William Barr orders legal action against governors whose COVID-19 actions infringe on civil rights - Washington Times
    you are contradicting yourself. You say guns are not a problem because we have laws to protect us. But when it comes to the virus, no laws can be made because it's not constitutional. This means the virus is more dangerous than guns.

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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Jr View Post
    You deliberately miss the point; this is not a debate

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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by ldsrptcvt View Post
    You deliberately miss the point; this is not a debate
    You have no point, is the point.
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    Re: It Is Not Your Constitutional Right To Not Wear A Mask

    Quote Originally Posted by ldsrptcvt View Post
    you are contradicting yourself. You say guns are not a problem because we have laws to protect us.
    I'm pointing out the difference between guns, a man made object, and viruses, an organic system ( it's arguable whether they are a form of life or something else ) that is something we have no control, or creative thought or hand in.

    I'm not saying guns aren't a problem because we have laws to protect us concerning their use.

    We have laws to protect us concerning the uses of cars, motor cycles fireworks and fire-pits even LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by ldsrptcvt View Post
    But when it comes to the virus, no laws can be made because it's not constitutional. This means the virus is more dangerous than guns.
    Some viruses certainly ARE more dangerous than guns. We have laws concerning the AIDS virus and human sexual behaviours. .. that ARE Constitutional.

    However..

    This SARS-CoV-2 virus is in no way comparable to the AIDS virus. It's another Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome virus - it's not really that "new" or "novel" at all. Though our fear boxes (TV's) tell us this daily.

    As I've said over and over;

    If the world reacts this way to every new strain of virus that's particularly hard on us, we will quickly go back to real primitive and very rough times.

    This isn't something civilization can withstand for too long, or too many times.

    If you're healthy and think you're doing the world a favor by hiding in your home like a mole, go ahead. But it serves little or no purpose.
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