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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mashmont View Post
    Personal insult? That's an automatic debate win for Mashmont.
    That's not a personal insult. My god. I thought you claimed to be educated.

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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cole View Post
    I doubt that death certificates aren't reliable. Doctor's have no motive to falsify death certificates.

    Malice was a good movie but it doesn't much happen in real life.
    I wasn't referring to malice, but just making mistakes, or incorrectly identifying the cause of death when it's unclear and there's no autopsy. I assume doctors do their best, but aren't going to spend an hour trying to figure out what killed someone when it's not important. My mother in law is 90. We may find out she's died in her sleep or watching TV. What will cause that? No doctor is going to spend any time figuring that out because we won't care and it's not relevant, so he'll make an educated guess, and it might be wrong - often is according to studies I've seen.

    Same with COVID 19. The thousands of doctors making those calls aren't going to attribute deaths to CV19 when it's played no role in the death, IMO. There's no reason for it and the guidelines simply do NOT require it, no matter how many right wing lying liars allege that.

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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mashmont View Post
    Dr. Birx is the source. She said any person with COVID who dies is being treated as a COVID death, regardless of the actual cause. That obviously means in some cases, something else was the true cause.
    I've heard the quote and that's not what she's saying. I've cited the guidelines...

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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cole View Post
    Indeed. Birx mentioned nothing about doctors. From the OP's own OP:

    The federal government is classifying the deaths of patients infected with the coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths, regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to the loss of someone's life.

    It's the Fed's doing this, Mash. Trump. Trump's doing this. Not the communist media. Not the communist doctors. Trump.

    Trump.
    The feds just compile data recorded on the death certificates and don't change the cause of death reported on them.

    I'm sure the distinction Birx was trying to make was we in the U.S. aren't deliberately MISclassifying COVID 19 deaths as pneumonia, for example. If CV was the precipitating event, then it's properly recorded as the UCOD, regardless of what underlying health issue might have contributed to the death.

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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mashmont View Post
    And then if I hadn’t linked it, you’d be screaming “Where’s the proof?” You people always play some game.
    You didn’t furnish anything like proof.

    You took two articles, neither of which suggested any sort of “chicanery” at all, and made a claim that you heard on a right wing talk radio show.

    You made a prize fool of yourself the last time. Insulting and assaulting virtually everyone on this forum with your whistling past the graveyard nonsense.

    Your principal claim, which you congratulated yourself on repeatedly, has been tragically disproven by events.

    There is no reason in the world why anyone would pay attention to this latest nonsense of yours.

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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by TomFitz View Post
    You didn’t furnish anything like proof.

    You took two articles, neither of which suggested any sort of “chicanery” at all, and made a claim that you heard on a right wing talk radio show.

    You made a prize fool of yourself the last time. Insulting and assaulting virtually everyone on this forum with your whistling past the graveyard nonsense.

    Your principal claim, which you congratulated yourself on repeatedly, has been tragically disproven by events.

    There is no reason in the world why anyone would pay attention to this latest nonsense of yours.
    There is one reason. Amusement.
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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    What’s the cause of death here?


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    Don't know. The coyote COULD have cancer...
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Acadia View Post
    As Dr. Birx clarified, if someone dies from cancer/kidney failure/congestive heart failure, but is covid-19 positive at the time of death, their cause of death will be recorded as covid-19.
    Wait...are you suggesting, that as mentioned REPEATEDLY over and over by the MSM...that covid 19 kills elderly, immune difficient...and people with other underlying health issues?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by zyzygy View Post
    There is one reason. Amusement.
    Keyboard bluster and dishonesty.

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    re: [W:520]Chicanery in COVID-19 Reporting? Two Things that Seem VERY Fishy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cole View Post
    The federal government is classifying the deaths of patients infected with the coronavirus as COVID-19 deaths, regardless of any underlying health issues that could have contributed to the loss of someone's life.

    Last I checked, Trump was in charge of the federal government.
    Well, then you'd better check again. Presidents don't and can't control every aspect of government. You can't flush out all the deep state leftwing cockroaches.

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