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Am I the only one?

joko104 said:
Because those damn radical rightwing judges on the Supreme Court this is the ONLY way to outlaw any store of any company that doesn't do at least a billion in sales a year locked down and out of business by the government.

It intolerable that some nobody-woman has a little clothing store. It must - and is - now outlawed for example. WalMart is where you buy clothes. Cheap slave labor clothes because slave labor is the most efficient.

The reason the billionaires are billionaires is because they are genius! The bought ALL television networks and news, ALL newpapers and of course totally control the Internet. With this, they could undertake a 24/7 every day and night campaing of terror and hate mongers to cause everyone to agree with them that all sales MUST come to them and that all their competition MUST be outlaws and put out of business.

Of course, they then need more employees as their competition is ordered illegal and shut down, all those employees have to go stock WalMart and Amazon's warehouses and be their workers too. Just minutes ago, the salesman for one of our suppliers told me he is laid off indefinitely - as have 1200 other people, but it is NOT a mega billion dollar company. WalMart and Amazon need him to work stocking for $15 an hour - and work FAST!!! too. With unemployment going to 30%, they'll get all the low paid workers they want - CHEAP.

They found their way around the Supreme Court and the Constitution/Bill of Rights this way. Like I said, brilliant tactic!!!

So, like China, Russia and all totalitarian governments which brilliantly have 90% of all wealth in a few hands, the USA also will modernize this way to. Be patient. This transformation will be completed by the 1st of June, July at the latest.

PS. I agree with you and believe by the non-stop terror and hate campaign most Americans now have an IQ of about 60. The only thing that matters to them is having toilet paper. Terror and Hate reduces people to their most primitive instincts eliminating any rational or complex thinking ability. Whatever the billionaires tell them on TV is all they can grasp - as long as it is really, really, really simple.
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I’m almost certain that every Trumpster on this forum who is busy defending the self serving incompetent little clown and his two bit reality show, have a closet or a garage full of toilet paper.

Most of them can find it next to the Y2K generator they went out and bought and never used. That’s under the ten cases of duct tape.
 
year2late said:
I really get what you are saying.

What is happening in NYC could be happening everywhere. We are desperately trying not to overwhelm healthcare systems.
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Yep. That this point isn't factored into the OP's thought process is odd.
 
Daqueef said:
Call me insensitive, but how do we expect to build immunity to this pandemic if were not exposing ourselves to it? What if this virus evolves into a stronger strain? It will be so much worse than it is now with the fear, anxiety, lack of knowledge and social distancing if were just hiding from it. You cant build any sort of immunity to a virus/disease that can potentially evolve into something far worse if youre not exposed to it. If this **** really started in animals, was passed to humans, and can be transmitted back and forth, what else can it do if it gets stronger itself?
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Never reported in the mainstream media, early in their experience the Chinese discovered that there are 2 strains of the virus. In their experience one strain was usually or often lethal, the other strain was usually or often not lethal.

The Germans are working on doing bloodwork on all their citizens. Those who had and survived the disease have acquired (naturalized) immunity and possess antibodies. They will receive a certificate of immunity.

I personally know 8 or 10 people who have had the disease and survived. If our healthcare system follows the German lead they will likely discover that there are many like that in the US. The people I know are not "in the system" in a statistical sense because they suffered with it at home, no medical help and no testing.

The human race will survive this affair, and the herd will be thinned in some small degree.
 
Daqueef said:
Call me insensitive, but how do we expect to build immunity to this pandemic if were not exposing ourselves to it? What if this virus evolves into a stronger strain? It will be so much worse than it is now with the fear, anxiety, lack of knowledge and social distancing if were just hiding from it. You cant build any sort of immunity to a virus/disease that can potentially evolve into something far worse if youre not exposed to it. If this **** really started in animals, was passed to humans, and can be transmitted back and forth, what else can it do if it gets stronger itself?
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The goal of the shelter in place, social distancing was to slow the onslaught of patients into the hospital system.

It was slowed and we have the beginnings of the herd immunity we will need.

Herd immunity does not protect all MEMBERS of the herd. It does protect the herd as the bigger entity.

The theory goes that instead of the one victim infecting two or more, he infects only one of the possibles as the others are already impacted and at least somewhat immune.

Anyway, the slowing is the goal and it seems to be working.
 
TomFitz said:
I’m almost certain that every Trumpster on this forum who is busy defending the self serving incompetent little clown and his two bit reality show, have a closet or a garage full of toilet paper.

Most of them can find it next to the Y2K generator they went out and bought and never used. That’s under the ten cases of duct tape.
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You seem to completely sure of stupidities that are not founded on rational thought.
 
minnie616 said:
I agree.

Actually, herd immunity will not work On the Coronavirus unless an effective vaccine is used on the vast majority of the population.

Here is a snip from an article that explaines it quite nicely.




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ScienceAlert
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It seems reasonable, given the statistics from around the world, that some people are more able to withstand the attack(s) from the virus.

From that, it is also reasonable that the even while the virus survives, it will not be catastrophically damaging. Herd immunity.

Not EVERYONE seems to be getting sick from this and certainly not everyone who get it die from it.

Here in Indiana, 56% of the infected are female. However 63% of the dead are male. The smaller segment has the greater fatalities. The smaller segment has the greater survivorship.

There are interesting oddities in the numbers in this.
 
TomFitz said:
No, you're not the only one.

This is the current Trumpster line.
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You seem to be suffering from a chronic ailment not connected to Coronavirus.
 
bongsaway said:
All talk and no action. Here's a suggestion why don't you and all the folks who think like you go out and save the economy? We would get the best of both worlds, the economy being saved and republicans being infected because of their hard headed stupidity and ignorance.

Risk your own life before you ask others to risk theirs.
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Out of curiosity, are you recommending that everyone in the US shelter at home for the next 18 months until an effective vaccine is widely in use?
 
JackA said:
That's one option. The other, which I think most of us prefer, is to try not to get sick while we wait for a vaccine.
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Normally, a vaccine requires am 18 month period to be available widely.

I've heard the drug companies think they might be able to short cut that to 12 months by using some vaccines under development when this thing started.

Even at the most optimistic, a viable vaccine seems far off.
 
code1211 said:
Normally, a vaccine requires am 18 month period to be available widely.

I've heard the drug companies think they might be able to short cut that to 12 months by using some vaccines under development when this thing started.

Even at the most optimistic, a viable vaccine seems far off.
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We have been trying to find an HIV vaccine for 30+ years.....
 
Daqueef said:
Call me insensitive, but how do we expect to build immunity to this pandemic if were not exposing ourselves to it? What if this virus evolves into a stronger strain? It will be so much worse than it is now with the fear, anxiety, lack of knowledge and social distancing if were just hiding from it. You cant build any sort of immunity to a virus/disease that can potentially evolve into something far worse if youre not exposed to it. If this **** really started in animals, was passed to humans, and can be transmitted back and forth, what else can it do if it gets stronger itself?
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I told my wife last night that I wished I had caught the virus so I would have immunity. Unless they find a vaccine or cure, people that don't have it now will be at high risk to get it when America is reopened for business.
 
Lursa said:
No, there are plenty of people that misguidedly believe as you've written.

We develop an immunity when they develop a vaccine to vaccinate people. Or we may not develop immunity.

Some people have gotten re-infected after having it. They dont know for sure if having it confers immunity and if it does, for how long. For SARS it's only for 2-3 yrs.

and how do you protect all the at-risk people then? The elderly, the persons with suppressed immune systems, etc? Do you just let them die?
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Links for proof of your opinions?
 
Daqueef said:
Call me insensitive, but how do we expect to build immunity to this pandemic if were not exposing ourselves to it? What if this virus evolves into a stronger strain? It will be so much worse than it is now with the fear, anxiety, lack of knowledge and social distancing if were just hiding from it. You cant build any sort of immunity to a virus/disease that can potentially evolve into something far worse if youre not exposed to it. If this **** really started in animals, was passed to humans, and can be transmitted back and forth, what else can it do if it gets stronger itself?
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Do you live in a red state?
 
3leftsdoo said:
Life = Needs to be hidden from

It's how humanity's gotten this far.

Cowering in caves & whatnot.

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I love that analogy. That is exactly what the liberals forced us to do, instead of being bold. We were forced by the liberal elite and alleged "experts" who have been continually wrong to be COWARDS!!

The WHO? Are you serious?

The CDC? The same group that lumps in all deaths as being due to the flu even for those who have numerous health issues? A bunch of liberal loonies.
 
TomFitz said:
I’m almost certain that every Trumpster on this forum who is busy defending the self serving incompetent little clown and his two bit reality show, have a closet or a garage full of toilet paper.

Most of them can find it next to the Y2K generator they went out and bought and never used. That’s under the ten cases of duct tape.
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I've noticed many to most Democratics on the forum are now incapable of this discussing any topic all. All they can do is post irrelevant ranting about Trump out for their apparently being totally consumed by the terror and hate mongering of the 24/7 informercials of the super rich.

You are likely correct. It is likely that on average Trump supporters are better stocked up because the spokespersons of the richest people on earth - ie the talking heads on the MSM - are not our gods and we KNOW they lie. So when assuring everyone they absolutely should NOT stock up because this won't affect the USA at all, most of us knew this a lie because usually what they say is exactly opposite from the truth.

Do you have a prayer station to WalMart, Inc and Amazon,Inc gods where you bow down multiple times a day pledging your heart, mind and life to them - like your messages on this do?
 
code1211 said:
Normally, a vaccine requires am 18 month period to be available widely.

I've heard the drug companies think they might be able to short cut that to 12 months by using some vaccines under development when this thing started.

Even at the most optimistic, a viable vaccine seems far off.
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It is far off. You better get going and become sick on purpose.
 
The super rich aren't done with this yet either. Shortages are coming REAL fast. Like most industries, there are very few bottle suppliers in the USA. Plastic bottles are not imported. Of the 3 largest, one shut down completely last week, we learned another is shutting down today, and the largest is out of stock on almost everything - estimating a 3 to 4 month full restocking delay. The largest box supplier notified us two days ago for us to order months supply because we are covid-19 critically sensitive and their inventory will soon be gone.

We don't want this. Every day we consider closing as it is consuming our lives and has me away from my family now for almost a month. Hope we don't shut down. If we, you starve. We are the largest supplier of non-toxic/poisonous sterilizers, sanitizers and preservatives. One of which we are the largest volume manufacturer in the USA by far. The others sold out a couple weeks ago. Most other smaller suppliers bought wholesale/bulk from us. By the end of the week, it is likely the only companies left when any inventory to sell is because we sold them some. However, we have established limits and alotments.

We also discontinued all other products - many far more profitable - for this and to maximize using packaging for covid-19 relevant.

Venezuela, here we come. Growing inflation, people with no money, empty shelves, the craziness desperately panicking and hate mongering mob mentality will bring.

So I hope you are stocked up on everything you need - a lot. Hope you didn't believe CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, NBC< CBS, PBS, all the politicians, all the talking heads, even Dr. Fauci and others - all assuring you there is absolutely no reason to have more than 14 days of what you need. Hopefully you were not the gullible.

Generally, I figure the truth usually is exactly opposite what the super rich are telling us on their television division. All of television, every second of it, is infomercials. Sit-coms, documentaries, all of it are infomercials. What to think. What to wear. How to act. All for profit. But since all of you grew with such indoctrination every day and night from birth, you can't see that. I can - but then I was never allowed to watch TV, go online, read anything - so I was instead indoctrinated on survival and the fact that people lie for their own goals.
 
Daqueef said:
Call me insensitive, but how do we expect to build immunity to this pandemic if were not exposing ourselves to it? What if this virus evolves into a stronger strain? It will be so much worse than it is now with the fear, anxiety, lack of knowledge and social distancing if were just hiding from it. You cant build any sort of immunity to a virus/disease that can potentially evolve into something far worse if youre not exposed to it. If this **** really started in animals, was passed to humans, and can be transmitted back and forth, what else can it do if it gets stronger itself?
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So go get sick. Have fun. Leave the rest of us out of it.
 
Paradoxical said:
I love that analogy. That is exactly what the liberals forced us to do, instead of being bold. We were forced by the liberal elite and alleged "experts" who have been continually wrong to be COWARDS!!

The WHO? Are you serious?

The CDC? The same group that lumps in all deaths as being due to the flu even for those who have numerous health issues? A bunch of liberal loonies.
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So go get exposed. Far be it from me to stand in your way.
 
This thread is some serious Jim Jones mojo.
 
Daqueef said:
Call me insensitive, but how do we expect to build immunity to this pandemic if were not exposing ourselves to it? What if this virus evolves into a stronger strain? It will be so much worse than it is now with the fear, anxiety, lack of knowledge and social distancing if were just hiding from it. You cant build any sort of immunity to a virus/disease that can potentially evolve into something far worse if youre not exposed to it. If this **** really started in animals, was passed to humans, and can be transmitted back and forth, what else can it do if it gets stronger itself?
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As people have pointed out, your beliefs are the opposite of reality.

1. Building immunity is not possible right now, unless you get it.
to suggest we should “build immunity” by getting it, would be like letting a friend shoot you so that you don’t commit suicide.

2. Viruses evolve while hosted in animals..people in this case now. If we dramatically reduce the number of people who get it, we reduce its evolution rate.

3. if we did let it ravage the nation, kill millions, overload hospitals, as you so unwisely suggest, and it DID evolve into something significantly different, you may be able to get it again and would in effect, once again, have no immunity.

4. Fear of it evolving..that’s not a top statistical concern, but you seen to prioritize it.
in contrast, the very real devastation cv19 is causing to populations around the world, is what medical experts are ACTUALLY focused on.

What are you not reading, that you have all these important concepts about this pandemic, completely backwards?
 
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joko104 said:
The super rich aren't done with this yet either. Shortages are coming REAL fast.
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Look at you promoting unfounded panic. Starving...good lord. Better run out and go get cv19 for everyone, because home cooking isn’t as good as eating ou..amirite??
 
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