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Italian regions testing for signs of coronavirus immunity

Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

It's already here - we are now on course to easily double federal annual spending and have an annual federal "budget" deficit of more than our total annual federal revenue.

I get it that ??? lives were likely immediately (temporarily?) saved by taking that "very aggressive" federal 'recovery' action, but it remains to be seen what the longer term effects of that massive borrow and print spending spree, coupled with a private economy "pause", will bring upon us.

Remember that nobody knows how long this crisis mode response (war on COVID-19?) will last. The government started it and only the government can end it. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.

We'll probably see some pause during the summer with a return in the fall. We are vulnerable until we have a vaccine or a really good antiviral or eventually achieve herd immunity.

But barring a bad mutation were looking at a year and a half or so until the "crisis" phase it over, and it will probably be diminishing "waves" in the process.

And you know what's an interesting thing to consider?

Had we done a hard lockdown for a month in february while doing a blitz on getting testing capacity ramped up we could be actually in control right now as much as could be. We'd have stopped the spread cold. That's the math. It's here and its all over the world. The threat would still be there until we get vaccines. But surveillance testing and contact tracing could easily have kept it in check and further controls could be applied where needed and the rest could continue to keep the wheels rolling.

It would have cost less. Much less. Lots of businesses that will go down now could have weathered a month.

And imagine if the United States had kicked this **** in the ass and could have stood as a proud beacon for the world in a time of global crisis. How much economic advantage we would have.

But there is no way we could have done that. Even with the kind of "Time to suck it up and do what Americans do best. Come together in a time of need" messaging that could easily be sold to most americans, too many would have openly rebelled against the idea. Would prefer the ugly "let nature take it's course" path to that temporary limitation of their liberty. And we'd just be where we are now, just a few months from now.

It's something to think about.
 
Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

Such a policy is not "pure biology" it is rewarding those, by government fiat, who violated more strict adherence to "stay at home" or "social distancing" policy and got infected over those who obeyed them and thus successfully avoided exposure.
The government does not get to chose this. The virus does. Unless you want to continue letting the economy further die while waiting for a vaccination.
 
Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

When they roll out at the State levels, there would be followup for those that do not have the antibodies

I would hazard a guess that those that had C19, a number would be tested again to monitor antibodies - Guessing they weaken over time - Not sure- way outside of my knowledge

They say it's likely here to stay and will mutate away enough you can catch it again. They're not sure how long that'll be. But those already exposed will have partial immunity the next time. Our bodies will identify it quicker as they know what the original "looked" like. They won't fall for the "moustache" for long!
 
Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

The government does not get to chose this. The virus does. Unless you want to continue letting the economy further die while waiting for a vaccination.

OK, but what are the many millions still at risk of COVID-19 infection supposed to do for the next 11 to 17 months? Do you expect them to stay at home, living on the dole, while they have been replaced at their former jobs/businesses?
 
Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

OK, but what are the many millions still at risk of COVID-19 infection supposed to do for the next 11 to 17 months? Do you expect them to stay at home, living on the dole, while they have been replaced at their former jobs/businesses?
You're assuming 11-17 months, I'm not. I'm not assuming the Italians will remain quarantined until a vaccine is found. My assumption and support for this program is that the immune can go out while it is too hot for the non-immune, until it cools down enough. I envision something like a month or two, as a transition phase to normalcy.
 
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