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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

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    Are you assuming that your state will issue such "return to work" licenses as a reward for having survived COVID-19 infection? That would seem to be political suicide for those supporting such measures.
    I don't know what made you think this.

    I was just pointing out that the unfairness you pointed out also applies to the States as well.

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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

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    Law of the jungle?
    Actually, yes. It's pure biology. We are biological beings (among other things).
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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

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    Actually, yes. It's pure biology. We are biological beings (among other things).
    Such a policy is not "pure biology" it is rewarding those, by government fiat, who violated more strict adherence to "stay at home" or "social distancing" policy and got infected over those who obeyed them and thus successfully avoided exposure.
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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

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    You guys are so sensible. I miss hanging with my Canuck relatives. It's been too long since I've seen them.
    Sadly it is not contagious- you always had it, thank your parents and friends & education/experience for that
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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are you assuming that your state will issue such "return to work" licenses as a reward for having survived COVID-19 infection? That would seem to be political suicide for those supporting such measures.
    I don't see it as a "reward".

    It is possible I already had it. Two possible "incidents" a horrid lung thing the first week of February and a sniffle five days after working a conference full of south Koreans later in the month.

    So before any stay at home orders.

    If I am immune, I personally would be happy to volunteer to help where my immunity would protect me. For free as long as my unemployment holds.

    To help my fellow Americans in their time of crisis. I could safely deliver food to those at serious risk, for example, as I wouldn't pose an additional risk to them in the process.

    That's another way of looking at it.
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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Such a policy is not "pure biology" it is rewarding those, by government fiat, who violated more strict adherence to "stay at home" or "social distancing" policy and got infected over those who obeyed them and thus successfully avoided exposure.
    A substantial number of infected include critical workers who can/have brought it home

    This is about safe return to work, lowers infection rates, lessens the loads on Medical facilities - identifies those that are at risk.

    Could they return to work?? Could be, but they would be aware on lacking anti bodies, company provides needed masks/gloves/sanitizers/ even areas to take a break separate from others(much like a nut allergy)


    How many in a family have those with anti bodies- those with out? Informs people to take precautions

    This will not be brought to heel easily and mass testing is required.
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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I don't see it as a "reward".

    It is possible I already had it. Two possible "incidents" a horrid lung thing the first week of February and a sniffle five days after working a conference full of south Koreans later in the month.

    So before any stay at home orders.

    If I am immune, I personally would be happy to volunteer to help where my immunity would protect me. For free as long as my unemployment holds.

    To help my fellow Americans in their time of crisis. I could safely deliver food to those at serious risk, for example, as I wouldn't pose an additional risk to them in the process.

    That's another way of looking at it.
    Yep, if the test could determine when you were exposed. The point remains that those still at risk are being denied that chance to return to work (or do whatever else suits their fancy) and must remain at home while those exposed are no longer restricted. That confers a (legal?) benefit to having been exposed (auto vaccinated?) regardless of when or why not available to those who avoided infection.
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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Italian regions testing for signs of coronavirus immunity - Reuters

    Testing for immunity will eventually spread to all Italians
    Immunity Certificates-
    And the EU- US-Canada



    For those few I ask how will you react if they are mandatory in order to return to work- kids to school- company requires it and so on???
    I'll take the test and take the endorsement that I am COVID immune, of course.
    But that doesn't mean I'll immediately return to sloppy interactions like there's no problem.
    I'll maintain caution and prudence while I await further developments.

    As it stands, I am eager to get a seratoligical test now, to confirm that I did HAVE COVID-19 to begin with.
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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    A substantial number of infected include critical workers who can/have brought it home

    This is about safe return to work, lowers infection rates, lessens the loads on Medical facilities - identifies those that are at risk.

    Could they return to work?? Could be, but they would be aware on lacking anti bodies, company provides needed masks/gloves/sanitizers/ even areas to take a break separate from others(much like a nut allergy)


    How many in a family have those with anti bodies- those with out? Informs people to take precautions

    This will not be brought to heel easily and mass testing is required.
    It also includes those who sold BigMacs through a drive up window, partied on Spring Break or simply went to the grocery store. In other words, drop the 'they could be heroes' nonsense. This is discrimination based on one's current COVID-19 status - pure and simple.
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    Re: Immunity Certificates- Italian regions testing for coronavirus immunity

    Quote Originally Posted by Checkerboard Strangler View Post
    I'll take the test and take the endorsement that I am COVID immune, of course.
    But that doesn't mean I'll immediately return to sloppy interactions like there's no problem.
    I'll maintain caution and prudence while I await further developments.

    As it stands, I am eager to get a seratoligical test now, to confirm that I did HAVE COVID-19 to begin with.
    When they roll out at the State levels, there would be followup for those that do not have the antibodies

    I would hazard a guess that those that had C19, a number would be tested again to monitor antibodies - Guessing they weaken over time - Not sure- way outside of my knowledge
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    Can't keep FUBAR'n the economy if their a vaccine

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