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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It's a wee bit hard to play catch up when the Trump administration's policy is to tell states they are on their own, but then at the same time act like a hoarder at the grocery store and then send people like Jared Kushner out to say "hey, you ****ers, this is our ****, not yours."
    The VA, military, federal law enforcement, etc need PPE too. People like you act like this is buying up extra toilet paper. The demand for this stuff is global. In the mean time, if he were to turn it all over to New York, New Yorkers would just complain he isn't providing it to the VA, military, federal law enforcement, etc.

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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

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    But at the same time, democrats would in the same breath give Obama credit for Trump’s economy.

    Historically, the USA is a “Just in time” operation. It is what it is, and in a year or two all will be forgotten.
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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, you are comparing Trumps actions to what should have happened with the benefit of hindsight. Essentially, you are Monday Morning Quarterbacking.
    Similar to tossing crap at the wall and hoping it'll stick.
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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, you are comparing Trumps actions to what should have happened with the benefit of hindsight. Essentially, you are Monday Morning Quarterbacking.
    Yes, I am, and Trump deserves the criticism.

    This isn't our first rodeo as a country during a time of crisis. This isn't even our first pandemic.

    You guys are like Tim Tebow fans that can't figure out why he keeps getting cut.
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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    The VA, military, federal law enforcement, etc need PPE too. People like you act like this is buying up extra toilet paper. The demand for this stuff is global. In the mean time, if he were to turn it all over to New York, New Yorkers would just complain he isn't providing it to the VA, military, federal law enforcement, etc.
    For Christ's sake. Even if this made the least bit of sense, the feds are seizing equipment already bought and paid for by states, en route to their destination.

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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    Similar to tossing crap at the wall and hoping it'll stick.
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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    why didn't hospitals do this themselves? I see no reason for Uncle Sam to be the supply clerk for private entities, many of which are for-profit. If anything this shows you why we shouldn't have a NHS type system.
    For one, hospitals are mostly for-profit entities. They aren't going to spend hundreds of thousands on ventilators on the chance they may need them for a month after which they'll sit in storage for years requiring constant maintenance.

    No hospital administrator in a million would make that call.

    Once the pandemic became clear, and it was clear that we had certain vital shortages, the federal government is the only game in town. Coordinating disaster relief is exactly what FEMA is designed to do. Funny how inept FEMA is whenever there's a government-hating Republican administration in power. We saw it in Katrina, we saw it in Puerto Rico, we see it today.
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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by W_Heisenberg View Post
    Yes, I am, and Trump deserves the criticism.

    This isn't our first rodeo as a country during a time of crisis. This isn't even our first pandemic.

    You guys are like Tim Tebow fans that can't figure out why he keeps getting cut.
    But if you want to claim Trump is doing a bad job you have to say in comparison to what or whom. You are comparing him to the perfection of hindsight when you should be comparing him to how others in his similar position have handled the problem. The truth is, he is doing better than most and you would acknowledge this if you were governed solely by your hatred for the man.
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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    For Christ's sake. Even if this made the least bit of sense, the feds are seizing equipment already bought and paid for by states, en route to their destination.
    so? The state are doing the same thing and apparently New York is so entitled they want to bring back indentured servitude. Coronavirus: Cuomo to seize, redistribute medical supplies From Drafting Doctors to Stealing Equipment, Politicians Violate the Limits of a Free Society – Reason.com

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    Re: U.S. Wasted Months Before Preparing for Virus Pandemic

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    so? The state are doing the same thing and apparently New York is so entitled they want to bring back indentured servitude. Coronavirus: Cuomo to seize, redistribute medical supplies From Drafting Doctors to Stealing Equipment, Politicians Violate the Limits of a Free Society – Reason.com
    Exactly. Why the **** does any of this make sense? From the very beginning this administration had the power to greatly reduce the burden of state and local governments and communities, but they chose not to. On top of that, they are deliberately getting in the way of states even trying to help themselves. This induces Cuomo to scare the living crap out of any disabled or elderly person who owns their own ventilators, to add on to yet another worry these people have to have (P&A's and Arcs across the country are suing, coordinating with state governments to try to ensure that the elderly and the disabled get fair shot at medical treatment).

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