• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

I’m Not a Doctor

That's interesting.

I've seen or heard no one claim they're taking ANYTHING because the president advised it.

Yes, they very specifically quoted him. Do you want the exact quote?
 
Maybe Trump should try playing "opposite day" with them. If a drug is promising he should say "no way we'll ever use it" Then these dufi ( Plural of dufus) would clamor to get the drug approved. He's got a task force of superstars he listens to them. But he's "Trump! :twisted:"

The level of hate for this president simply astounds but yeah, if he tried that, they'd do their usual resisting.
EVERYTHING IS HIS FAULT.
 
If I could gather up all their hot air in the spin machine, I'd market it. Think of what we could do with all that energy. ;)

We could afford to build and fly the ships to Mars. With enough supplies to build MANY of the required Domes for living. We could afford to fly as many people as WANTED to go and populate Mars.

Yes, there is a vast, untapped source of energy there.

How to harness it ? That's the question. Maybe Elon Musk can come up with something, he's into things like that.
 
It is absolutely not political in nature, it is all about the Benjamins Baby. treatment codes trigger different billing mechanisms.
Sanofi —> This stock could be like buying Amazon in 1997.
 
Yes, they very specifically quoted him. Do you want the exact quote?

You're not gonna' go on about that fish tank cleaner waaaaaa again, are you?
Trump did not tell anyone to take poison.
 
We could afford to build and fly the ships to Mars. With enough supplies to build MANY of the required Domes for living. We could afford to fly as many people as WANTED to go and populate Mars.

Yes, there is a vast, untapped source of energy there.

How to harness it ? That's the question. Maybe Elon Musk can come up with something, he's into things like that.

:thumbs:
 
Yes, they very specifically quoted him. Do you want the exact quote?

I want to see that certain people actually admitted to going and getting a drug, from a pharmacy or a Dr., on the presidents advice.

Is there evidence of that ? I suspect not, this drug was being discussed about a month or more ago, long before the president brought it up.

But yes, let us see the sourced quote.
 
Maybe Trump should try playing "opposite day" with them. If a drug is promising he should say "no way we'll ever use it" Then these dufi ( Plural of dufus) would clamor to get the drug approved. He's got a task force of superstars he listens to them. But he's "Trump! :twisted:"

What a weird post. You assume you I'm listening to trump for any advice. When a cure or treatment comes out the CDC or WHO will make that known, and I trust my doctor for the right treatment. A couple trump supporters actually thought Trump was smart or honest and one man paid the price with his life.
 
Some Lupus and Malaria patients are having difficulty getting Rx's filled for their life saving and treatment. Thanks, POTUS.
Yes they are. And the price is going up if you can get it. India is probably a better place to order from than here, though I’d have it analyzed. And where do some of our best doctors come from?

Mylan, Teva, Novartis, Bayer, and Sanofi are all Pharma companies whose stock jumped in Mid-March. Next up is to find who they campaign donate to.
 
But yes, let us see the sourced quote.

The man's wife told NBC News she'd watched televised briefings during which President Trump talked about the potential benefits of chloroquine. Even though no drugs are approved to prevent or treat COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, some early research suggests it may be useful as a therapy.

"We were afraid of getting sick."

The name "chloroquine" resonated with the man's wife, who asked that her name not be used to protect the family's privacy. She'd used it previously to treat her koi fish.

"I saw it sitting on the back shelf and thought, 'Hey, isn't that the stuff they're talking about on TV?'"

[FONT=&]”Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure," the woman whose husband died [/FONT]told NBC[FONT=&].[/FONT]

Man dies after ingesting chloroquine in an attempt to prevent coronavirus
 
”Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure," the woman whose husband died told NBC.

Man dies after taking chloroquine in an attempt to prevent coronavirus

And he's at it again. He's not going to be happy until he kills all of you.

Because we're ALL so dumb we'll take fish tank cleaner !!

Yes, yes I think you may be right ; )

We DO after-all listen to the same dimwitted remarks by liberals and liberal "News" outlets every day.

That enough is evidence of a short-coming I'D say.
 
Because we're ALL so dumb we'll take fish tank cleaner !!

Well not all of you, obviously. You're still here.

Hey, have you heard of Erythromycin? It's supposed to combat coronavirus. You should see if you have any and take it.
 
The man's wife told NBC News she'd watched televised briefings during which President Trump talked about the potential benefits of chloroquine. Even though no drugs are approved to prevent or treat COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, some early research suggests it may be useful as a therapy.

"We were afraid of getting sick."

The name "chloroquine" resonated with the man's wife, who asked that her name not be used to protect the family's privacy. She'd used it previously to treat her koi fish.

"I saw it sitting on the back shelf and thought, 'Hey, isn't that the stuff they're talking about on TV?'"

[FONT=&]”Trump kept saying it was basically pretty much a cure," the woman whose husband died [/FONT]told NBC[FONT=&].[/FONT]

Man dies after ingesting chloroquine in an attempt to prevent coronavirus

Yes, the bright folks that died from taking fish tank cleaner at the presidents advice - which he did not give actually.

From the sourced link;

"The couple unfortunately equated the chloroquine phosphate in their fish treatment with the medication —known as hydroxychloroquine — that has recently been touted as a possible treatment for COVID-19, which has infected more than 42,000 people in the U.S. and killed at least 462."

Sadly, these people died because they were scared and foolish. That the president mentioned the drug as a hope in a possible cure, doesn't make HIM responsible, doesn't make him trying to play a Dr.

As I mentioned earlier, this substance was mentioned by others, about a month or more BEFORE the president spoke of it.

It was and still is being seriously considered as a help, or cure to help people get people alive & through the infectious cycle of this disease.
 
I don't know.

But before you attribute hate, let's start with mistrust. When someone's a pathological liar and cannot be trusted, yeah you question his motives. As it's prudent you should. Am I to assume Trump miraculously found God, and is now being honest?

Totally understand your concerns. I really think this one shook him up. I am still not willing to vote for him next election. That being said I think he is searching for some good news in this horrible situation.
 
Yes, the bright folks that died from taking fish tank cleaner at the presidents advice - which he did not give actually.

From the sourced link;

"The couple unfortunately equated the chloroquine phosphate in their fish treatment with the medication —known as hydroxychloroquine — that has recently been touted as a possible treatment for COVID-19, which has infected more than 42,000 people in the U.S. and killed at least 462."

Sadly, these people died because they were scared and foolish. That the president mentioned the drug as a hope in a possible cure, doesn't make HIM responsible, doesn't make him trying to play a Dr.

As I mentioned earlier, this substance was mentioned by others, about a month or more BEFORE the president spoke of it.

It was and still is being seriously considered as a help, or cure to help people get people alive & through the infectious cycle of this disease.

THey should have taken Hydrochlorine... :2razz:
 
The level of hate for this president simply astounds but yeah, if he tried that, they'd do their usual resisting.
EVERYTHING IS HIS FAULT.

What's the hold up in ICU's around the country? Why aren't we using this miracle cure right now?
 
Well not all of you, obviously. You're still here.

Hey, have you heard of Erythromycin? It's supposed to combat coronavirus. You should see if you have any and take it.

I heard an even better solution ! Bleach - common household bleach and swimming pool acid ( HCl ) taken together - Yes ! I'm gonna go have some right now !! LOL

Do research this a little bit before you take MY advice - it's an interesting reaction I don't recommend

THey should have taken Hydrochlorine... :2razz:

See above
 
I would suspect individual doctors who insist on playing by the book. The next question is obviously: who wrote that book?

That's the interesting thing about this FDA EUA... They have immunity from liability...

The Secretary is issuing this Declaration pursuant to section 319F-3 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 247d-6d) to provide liability immunity for activities related to medical countermeasures against COVID-19.

https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/COVID19.aspx
 
That's the interesting thing about this FDA EUA... They have immunity from liability...

The Secretary is issuing this Declaration pursuant to section 319F-3 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 247d-6d) to provide liability immunity for activities related to medical countermeasures against COVID-19.

https://www.phe.gov/Preparedness/legal/prepact/Pages/COVID19.aspx

Why do you suspect that avaoiding a lawsuit is the primary concern? Some doctors simply do not believe in using drugs "off label".
 
Why do you suspect that avaoiding a lawsuit is the primary concern? Some doctors simply do not believe in using drugs "off label".

Oh, not suggesting that it would be a primary concern, just one more data point. I suspect it's mostly because they have been trained in ethics and are very reluctant to use treatments that don't have much real evidence. I would imagine when a patient is critical adding new medications and their inherent risks is avoided without strong evidence the outcome will change. From what I understand, the lung damage in patients who expire has usually progressed to an irreversible point and often in a very short amount of time.
 
Because we're ALL so dumb we'll take fish tank cleaner !!

Yes, yes I think you may be right ; )

We DO after-all listen to the same dimwitted remarks by liberals and liberal "News" outlets every day.

That enough is evidence of a short-coming I'D say.
trump said he doesn’t need to wear a mask — in direct opposition to EVERY MEMBER of his team —>

are you going to tell us that supporters of trump are just going to ignore him — why do you think eight gop governors still won’t do what the other 42 states have done —

my Illinois needs to ban all vehicles coming from dumb **** Iowa until further notice
 
Last edited:
Back
Top Bottom