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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The service has rules. The captain violated those rules. As a senior officer, he knew better. He got what he deserved. He oughta be drummed out of the service.
    What 'rules' exactly did he violate. No one has provide any specific evidence of it

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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    .....you do realize that your own citation claims that the source of that leak is anonymous.? The closest they get is that they "confirmed" it with "a senior officer".

    You are accusing him of leaking something to the press (and, sure, it's not impossible or implausible - he may have), without supporting evidence.
    Post a link quoting him denying that he leaked the letter.
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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Kid View Post
    What 'rules' exactly did he violate. No one has provide any specific evidence of it
    Violated the chain of command, compromised the security of his ship and leaked classified casualty information. Are those a enough rules for you?
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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Violated the chain of command, compromised the security of his ship and leaked classified casualty information. Are those a enough rules for you?
    Prove it.

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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    No, he was trying to protect his crew and folks like you would have rather them all die than tarnish the reputation of your messiah Trump. You are anti-American and a traitor to the United States of America. May all Trump supporters burn in hell.
    You are so far from the truth it isn't funny.

    Help was on the way, but not fast enough to calm this panic stricken Captain.

    You would known this if you spent more time researching instead of running your mouth 24/7 with your usual trash.
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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by RetiredUSN View Post
    You are so far from the truth it isn't funny.

    Help was on the way, but not fast enough to calm this panic stricken Captain.

    You would known this if you spent more time researching instead of running your mouth 24/7 with your usual trash.
    Help was only on the way AFTER. You would know this if you had a clue, but you don't. Your mouth keeps yappin, but nothing worth while is coming out. The Navy considers your comments an embarrassment.
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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    It was correct to fire the captain. We cannot have military commanders deciding to jump the chain of command or protocol just to keep themselves or their sailors/soldiers out of harms way. The captain by all means can complain up the chain, but he MUST do it properly. Allowing his letter to be leaked was a serious failure by him so he had to go.

    If every sailor on that aircraft carrier were to die doing their duty to protect the nation; the area fleet operations they are assigned to; or whatever their mission at the time was--- then SO BE IT, that is what they are there for.

    What if mid level commander during the Normandy invasion had said, "oh no, this is too dangerous, we are going to hold our positions or regroup" then how would that have been? If Normandy had been flubbed on that day it would have been another 6 months before the conditions would have been right to attempt again.

    I'm sure the captain is popular with his crew, but the feelings of the crew DO NOT matter.
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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    I just read that.

    Very sad.
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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Leaking casualty information through improper channels is a huge no-no in the service.

    Any leader that doesn't enforce the standards is a piece of **** and doesn't deserve to wear the uniform.
    Indeed.

    It wasn't that his ship's crew caught the COVID-19.
    It wasn't that he reported that his ship's crew caught the COVID-19 to his superiors.
    It wasn't that he he was critical of the Navy's efforts to air lift those stricken sailors to proper medical facilities in Guam, and the rate of that air lift.

    Modly said that Crozier showed “poor judgment” by sending the letter by email to 20 or 30 people. He did not directly accuse Crozier of leaking the letter but noted that it appeared in Crozier’s hometown newspaper.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...0d0_story.html
    It was that he shared this classified information, i.e. the combat preparedness of a major US navy asset to some '20 or 30 people' via an unsecured system 'email'.

    Everyone knows that only Hillary is allowed to get away with such miss-handling of classified information.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Agreeably I haven't followed this closely, but I am a bit of a stickler for that. I have seen folks in this thread suggest that he put classified communications into the hands of the public.... but no one actually demonstrate that he has done so. Can you provide that, please?
    Link cited above.
    Covington Catholic, BuzzFeed Cohen story,
    Beyond BuzzFeed: The 10 Worst, Most Embarrassing U.S. Media Failures on the Trump/Russia Story
    Don't believe the lying leftist 'news' (political propaganda) media! #JournalismIsDead

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    Re: Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

    Quote Originally Posted by Praxas View Post
    Yes, how DARE he care about the soldiers lives under him. He needed to stay out there so Trump didn't look bad, THAT'S what is important. You conservatives make me sick. Your comments are completely un-American and show that you want people to DIE to save your messiah Trump.
    You're valid point is taken.

    But you're becoming a tad melodramatic. Actually, extremely melodramatic. I'm thinking either cabin fever or swag weed. Relax Prax. This too shall pass.

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