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Bread Lines & Food Shortages

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Are you ready and able to help? This could become a real problem that requires the nation to buckle-up and share the burden.

The Recession Bread Lines Are Forming in Mar-a-Lago’s Shadow


Food banks around the world have recorded increases in requests for assistance as government-ordered lockdowns have started to bite, prompting employers to lay off staff.

With more than 10 million people across the nation suddenly unemployed, bread lines are forming in the shadows of privileged enclaves like this one in Florida.

For the past two weeks, the kitchen staff at Howley's has been cooking up free meals-the other day it was smoked barbecue chicken with rice and beans, and salad-for thousands of laid off workers from Palm Beach's shuttered restaurants and resorts.

Food insecurity was already a chronic problem in many U.S. communities. Across the U.S. 14.3 million households were short of food in 2018, the last year for which government data are available. That equates to just over one in ten American households. For Black and Hispanic households the rate is closer to one in five.

"We're seeing about a 650% increase in our request for support," said Sari Vatske, executive vice president of Feeding South Florida, which before the pandemic was already serving more than 700,000 people a year in four counties including Palm Beach County. "The growth is exponential."

That is likely only to get worse with the number of people losing jobs at historic levels. In the final two weeks of March alone an unprecedented 10 million workers applied for unemployment insurance. And some economists predict about 20 million people will have lost their jobs by July.


Coronavirus may cause some food shortages, says government document

The nation could begin to see food shortages for some products if the people working on the supply chain lack personal protective equipment, warns an internal Trump administration document obtained by Yahoo News.

The April 2 briefing warns that the task force had completed an analysis and there could be "commodity impacts if current PPE inventory is exhausted." There would be shortages of milk within 24 hours and of fresh fruits and vegetables "within several days.' The document estimates that 'meat, poultry, seafood, and processed eggs' would become scarce within a period of two to four weeks, while 'dry goods and processed foods inventories' - that is, the non-perishables that are pantry staples - could become scarce "as soon as four weeks" after face masks and gloves run out across the food supply chain.

The document is a warning, and is not descriptive of the current situation. There are no signs of a food shortage across the nation. But the coronavirus pandemic is putting strain on every aspect of the food supply chain, from the people who raise and grow what we eat to the people who deliver it to our supermarkets.
 
The meat industry had stocked up, expecting to ship to restaurants in time for March Madness.

But with the NCAA tournament having been called off thanks to the coronavirus, retailers aren’t sure what to do. Apparently selling them in stores isn’t a readily available option since there are different packaging requirements for consumers.

As of Wednesday afternoon, with demand gone, wings have dropped to $1.25 per pound, according to Russ Whitman, senior vice president at NJ-based commodities market reporting firm Urner Barry.

https://www.wlsam.com/2020/04/03/us-currently-has-an-abundance-of-chicken-wings/


Let them eat chicken wings.
 
Let them eat cake.
 
While the intent may be noble, giving away individual meals (at least once) daily runs counter to the "stay at home" orders if folks must appear in person to collect their free meals. The alternative would seem to be for these free food providers to either allow 'hoarders' to make off with multiple bagged meals or to deliver them to each (verified as?) needy individual.
 
While the intent may be noble, giving away individual meals (at least once) daily runs counter to the "stay at home" orders if folks must appear in person to collect their free meals. The alternative would seem to be for these free food providers to either allow 'hoarders' to make off with multiple bagged meals or to deliver them to each (verified as?) needy individual.

I think the challenge is to identify the needy. If they're wearing dirty, ragged clothing, look unwashed or are seriously acting desperate, then serve them a meal. In time, it should become more obvious who's in need, which will probably be a lot.
 
I think the challenge is to identify the needy. If they're wearing dirty, ragged clothing, look unwashed or are seriously acting desperate, then serve them a meal. In time, it should become more obvious who's in need, which will probably be a lot.

Hmm... are clean looking folks are not likely hungry or needy? How, exactly, does one "seriously act desperate"? The point was encouraging folks to go out and line up (at least daily) runs counter to a "stay at home" order.
 
Hmm... are clean looking folks are not likely hungry or needy? How, exactly, does one "seriously act desperate"? The point was encouraging folks to go out and line up (at least daily) runs counter to a "stay at home" order.

How would you qualify the needy? "Stay at home" or starve, really?
 
How would you qualify the needy? "Stay at home" or starve, really?

Perhaps give them prepaid grocery gift cards or sacks of groceries. Sort of a privately funded SNAP operation. One is able to get a lot more food per $1 of spending from a grocery store than from a restaurant. You keep avoiding my point - which is that creating bagged lunch lines encourages folks to go out at least daily to get in them.
 
Perhaps give them prepaid grocery gift cards or sacks of groceries. Sort of a privately funded SNAP operation. One is able to get a lot more food per $1 of spending from a grocery store than from a restaurant. You keep avoiding my point - which is that creating bagged lunch lines encourages folks to go out at least daily to get in them.

That's because you keep posing a ridiculous question. Nutrition outweighs COV-19, one makes you sick, the other definitely kills, you figure it out. I do agree with the SNAP cards and bag of groceries but not for the homeless, they need meals.
 
I think the challenge is to identify the needy. If they're wearing dirty, ragged clothing, look unwashed or are seriously acting desperate, then serve them a meal. In time, it should become more obvious who's in need, which will probably be a lot.

I know of meth heads that look like that....
 
That's because you keep posing a ridiculous question. Nutrition outweighs COV-19, one makes you sick, the other definitely kills, you figure it out. I do agree with the SNAP cards and bag of groceries but not for the homeless, they need meals.

You have equated the recently unemployed 10M with the homeless - that is what I am calling ridiculous.
 
I know of meth heads that look like that....

And they don't eat? You can't ask for everyone's tax returns who asks for help, it's sort of an honor system. I know some senior's who are loaded but can't fix their own dinners. They're just senile and cheap.
 
And they don't eat? You can't ask for everyone's tax returns who asks for help, it's sort of an honor system. I know some senior's who are loaded but can't fix their own dinners. They're just senile and cheap.

Most people on meth do not eat that is correct..
 
Usually they eat by the week not by the day.

But they do eat? And probably need the nutrition more than the average person when they're coming down from a 'tweaking session.'
 
Show me where I've done this?

From your OP:

Food banks around the world have recorded increases in requests for assistance as government-ordered lockdowns have started to bite, prompting employers to lay off staff.

With more than 10 million people across the nation suddenly unemployed, bread lines are forming in the shadows of privileged enclaves like this one in Florida.
 
For how long?

A long long time...same with crack/coke.
When I was a crackhead (twenty-six years ago) I would sometimes go four or even five days without eating, or sleeping.
Then I might eat whatever junk food I could find for about a buck or two, then repeat the cycle all over again as soon as I could get my hands on more crack.

By the time I finally got on the wagon I almost looked like a skeleton.
 
Everyone is going to get hit by the food shortages we're fixing to see.
 
From your OP:

First of all, that's from the article, not me. Secondly, it says that with 10 million suddenly unemployed, bread lines are forming. It doesn't say anything about the homeless.
 
But they do eat? And probably need the nutrition more than the average person when they're coming down from a 'tweaking session.'

I only knew ONE person who smoked crack who ever got proper nutrition, and that's because he still held down a job as an architect.
He would work his tail off during the week, then go on a bender, but not before first cooking up spectacular vegetarian meals - he was a really good vegetarian chef.

But during his benders he never ate or slept, and since he had schedule flexibility due to piecemeal assignments, his benders sometimes stretched to five or six days. Then he would sleep for an entire day, wake up, eat a big veggie meal and then go back to work again.

Still, he was painfully thin, but he did eat much better than I did at the time.
I would just go to McDonald's or eat whatever canned stuff I might have bought for a buck, or I'd finish off whatever rice and beans I had on hand, or I might live on a candy bar or two for the week if that was all I could manage. By the time I hit rock bottom, every dollar I made went to crack.
 
A long long time...same with crack/coke.
When I was a crackhead (twenty-six years ago) I would sometimes go four or even five days without eating, or sleeping.
Then I might eat whatever junk food I could find for about a buck or two, then repeat the cycle all over again as soon as I could get my hands on more crack.

By the time I finally got on the wagon I almost looked like a skeleton.

My point was that even addicts have to eat something. We shouldn't punish them with starvation because they have a mental illness. Should we?
 
My point was that even addicts have to eat something. We shouldn't punish them with starvation because they have a mental illness. Should we?

Well, no we shouldn't punish them with starvation because generally speaking, they already do a pretty good job of it themselves, at least as far as the tweakers (speed, meth, coke, crack, etc) are concerned. I only know a little about tweakers because I became one at the time.

So no, we should not punish them with starvation but the point is, the food might be available but tweakers don't really care, because tweakers don't notice how hungry they are. It's just a fact...most tweakers ignore their hunger because they don't feel it.

That might not be the case for heroin junkies or people who use other downers, like barbiturates, oxy, etc.
I wouldn't know because I never associated with that drug or its users.
 
I think the challenge is to identify the needy. If they're wearing dirty, ragged clothing, look unwashed or are seriously acting desperate, then serve them a meal. In time, it should become more obvious who's in need, which will probably be a lot.

However there are few if any legal means to get them to quarantine or segregate from the general population and they will be/are a huge danger to the public. We cant force them to do anything.
 
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