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Hydroxychloroquine rated most effective COVID-19 treatment.

That response is a waste of our time. No one claimed anything like that especially the President.

The article says "the Trump-touted" drug. As if Trump deserves some kind of credit. It's absurd.

All Trump did is claim it was a treatment before there was any clinical evidence. Maybe it turns out to be a treatment, maybe it doesn't. Either way doesn't make Trump right for speculating on a medical treatment he knows nothing about.

But because he's an idiot and his followers are idiots he will claim some kind of victory and the horde of morons who worship him will cheer him as the savior.
 
Well, then you haven't been paying attention. Trump has been misleading people about this treatment from the get-go.

Why is that when Trump said something that was untrue you cannot process the actual thought in your brain that he said something that was untrue?

That's how you know you're in a cult...Robertinfremont.

No he has not. I have seen virtually all of his conferences. And he has had several doctors there with him who could contradict the man. If you hate the drug, tell your doctor when he prescribes it to you hell no Doctor. Trump mentioned it, so hell no Doc.
 
I want to see any demonstration, even one, that you possess those skills.

This rage by Democrats is pure unadulterated Trumpshattery. They crap on Trump for the amusement of it.

This is not about him. It should be about helping others. That drug is proven safe. In prescribed by doctors doses.

What has not been proven is that it actually works for Covid 19.. yet. That is what the current clinical trials are for. There is some promise, but promise is not proof. Using a 'poll' from doctors as a source is not even good evidence, particularly when the company that conducted the poll makes money by promoting specific drugs. What part of 'conflict of interest' don't you understand? It's a very simple concept you know.
 
The article says "the Trump-touted" drug. As if Trump deserves some kind of credit. It's absurd.

All Trump did is claim it was a treatment before there was any clinical evidence. Maybe it turns out to be a treatment, maybe it doesn't. Either way doesn't make Trump right for speculating on a medical treatment he knows nothing about.

But because he's an idiot and his followers are idiots he will claim some kind of victory and the horde of morons who worship him will cheer him as the savior.

Tell your doctor off if the doctor wants you to use that drug. Tell him you hate Trump so hell no, you refuse the drug.
 
What has not been proven is that it actually works for Covid 19.. yet. That is what the current clinical trials are for. There is some promise, but promise is not proof. Using a 'poll' from doctors as a source is not even good evidence, particularly when the company that conducted the poll makes money by promoting specific drugs. What part of 'conflict of interest' don't you understand? It's a very simple concept you know.

Trump never at all hinted it is the cure. I do not get the rage. The drug is in common use. In fact were you to go to a dangerous malaria ridden area, they want you to take the drug. Trump never promised it cures this disease. Democrats lie all day long about Trump so this is just one more stock of their lies.
 
What has not been proven is that it actually works for Covid 19.. yet. That is what the current clinical trials are for. There is some promise, but promise is not proof. Using a 'poll' from doctors as a source is not even good evidence, particularly when the company that conducted the poll makes money by promoting specific drugs. What part of 'conflict of interest' don't you understand? It's a very simple concept you know.

Here is one more issue. People are dying like flies per the Democrats. But let a person mention a medicine that might help and they turn red in rage.
 
Well, then you haven't been paying attention. Trump has been misleading people about this treatment from the get-go.

Why is that when Trump said something that was untrue you cannot process the actual thought in your brain that he said something that was untrue?

That's how you know you're in a cult...Robertinfremont.

I am a premier listener. I am also a premier reader. I easily digest every damned comma and period. Words are my tool of trade. I know precisely what words mean.

I have listened to trump. And he is being lied about. When he mentions the drug with the very long name, he also mentions a disclaimer. He is not practicing medicine. He hopes to cheer this nation to the finish line but Democrats persist in insulting the man.
 
Trump never at all hinted it is the cure. I do not get the rage. The drug is in common use. In fact were you to go to a dangerous malaria ridden area, they want you to take the drug. Trump never promised it cures this disease. Democrats lie all day long about Trump so this is just one more stock of their lies.

What rage? You seem to be reading things and interpreting things that don't exist. That is evidence of an irrational confirmation bias. There is also the twisting and denial of what Trump actually said.. but what Trump said is totally and utterly not relevant on if this therapy works or not for covid 19. It might work, but it has to be proven via clinical trials, and not polls. What can't you understand about that? Why are you trying to politicize it? Trump has nothing to do with it.
 
I want to see any demonstration, even one, that you possess those skills.

This rage by Democrats is pure unadulterated Trumpshattery. They crap on Trump for the amusement of it.

This is not about him. It should be about helping others. That drug is proven safe. In prescribed by doctors doses.

Proven safe? Links?
 
YOu do realize that polls are totally worthless when it comes to choosing the actual effectiveness of a medicine. Double blind tests would be needed.


And, you should really vet your sources. The NYPOST is horrible when it comes to this thing known as 'facts'

True, seems to be more anecdotal than an actual study
Sermo COVID-19 Real Time Barometer
Sermo - Wikipedia

However, there's that thing called hope.
 
No he has not. I have seen virtually all of his conferences. And he has had several doctors there with him who could contradict the man. If you hate the drug, tell your doctor when he prescribes it to you hell no Doctor. Trump mentioned it, so hell no Doc.

Robertinfremont, there is no polite way to say, this...but the people who continue to insist that Trump is telling the truth are ignorant fools.

Trump’s Dangerous Messaging About a Possible Coronavirus Treatment | The New Yorker

Donald Trump, however, ran with it. Last Thursday, at a press conference, he declared that chloroquine had “been approved” by the Food and Drug Administration as a treatment for covid-19. (It hadn’t.) On Friday, he said that he is “a big fan” of the drug. (The F.D.A. commissioner, Stephen Hahn, issued a cautionary statement about spreading “false hope.”) On Saturday, Trump tweeted, “hydroxychloroquine & azithromycin, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.” He added that the drugs should be used “immediately” to treat the coronavirus. HCQ is also used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and lupus, which are autoimmune diseases; at one of his pressers, Trump had said, “If you wanted, you can have a prescription,” adding, “What the hell do you have to lose?”

Physicians responded instantly and publicly. Sam Ghali, an emergency physician in Lexington, Kentucky, tweeted that the President’s recommendation involved “a dangerous combination of drugs with tons of side effects,” and that “together they can make your heart go into abnormal rhythms and even kill you.” Rob Davidson, an emergency physician in western Michigan, who chairs the Committee to Protect Medicare, tweeted, at Trump, “Leave the medical advice to doctors. You can’t even do your own job correctly, stop trying to do ours.”

When Donald trump said that the drug had been approved as a treatment for covid-19, he was LYING. You do not know what you're talking about. Trump does not know what he's talking about. When you repeat the lies Trump said you too are lying.
 
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True, seems to be more anecdotal than an actual study
Sermo COVID-19 Real Time Barometer
Sermo - Wikipedia

However, there's that thing called hope.

Yes, yes there is such a thing known as hope. Con men play on people's hopes and fears, as do marketing firms. When you hope the most is when you have to be the most careful about sources and what people are saying. Longview gave two sources I rate high and medium high when it comes to accuracy that give hope when it comes to actual clinical trials. Hope and fear are two things that con men use to separate people's money, leaving them empty handed, and to troll people. That is why it is more important than ever right now to vet your sources, and actually look at the evidence for claims. A news paper that practices yellow journalism, and anecdotal tales from a place that makes money by promoting specific drugs are to be viewed skeptically.
 
Indeed it is. And we do know that there are side effects, some resulting in death or permanent disability. In addition, there are possible withdrawal symptoms. There are also dangerous issues resulting from drug interactions.

That's one reason why it is prescription, and is used under a doctors supervision.
 
Trump never at all hinted it is the cure.

Here's a well publicized Trump hint you must have missed:

HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.

I do not get the rage. The drug is in common use.

So is Nupercainal. Nupercainal and hydroxychoroquine have two important things in common, both are in common use and neither has been proven to be effective for people with COVID-19.
 
Here's a well publicized Trump hint you must have missed:





So is Nupercainal. Nupercainal and hydroxychoroquine have two important things in common, both are in common use and neither has been proven to be effective for people with COVID-19.

A game changer does not mean a cure. Stop worrying about Trump and worry about patients.
 
Robertinfremont, there is no polite way to say, this...but the people who continue to insist that Trump is telling the truth are ignorant fools.

Trump’s Dangerous Messaging About a Possible Coronavirus Treatment | The New Yorker



When Donald trump said that the drug had been approved as a treatment for covid-19, he was LYING. You do not know what you're talking about. Trump does not know what he's talking about. When you repeat the lies Trump said you too are lying.

I have seen 90 percent of Trumps live conferences and know very well he is not prescribing a thing. Each time he cautions, see your doctor and IF he prescribes it, take his advice.

This Trump hate has degenerated from he lied about a statue in the oval office to he lied about the global crowd that watched his inauguration to the claim in the media he lies so much it is in the tens of thousands. Even Democrats don't lie that much and they are prolific liars.

Do this for you and your family. If your doctor dares prescribe this drug you hate so much, promise me you will refuse to heed the doctors prescription advice.
 
I have seen 90 percent of Trumps live conferences and know very well he is not prescribing a thing. Each time he cautions, see your doctor and IF he prescribes it, take his advice.

This Trump hate has degenerated from he lied about a statue in the oval office to he lied about the global crowd that watched his inauguration to the claim in the media he lies so much it is in the tens of thousands. Even Democrats don't lie that much and they are prolific liars.

Do this for you and your family. If your doctor dares prescribe this drug you hate so much, promise me you will refuse to heed the doctors prescription advice.

Robertinfremont:

Is this true or not true?

Donald Trump, however, ran with it. Last Thursday, at a press conference, he declared that chloroquine had “been approved” by the Food and Drug Administration as a treatment for covid-19. (It hadn’t.)

Do you disbelieve this line above?

Do you need me to show you the video clip where Trump said precisely what is described above?



Go to 1:20 and listen, watch and listen with your own eyes and your own ears.

This isn't some deep state conspiracy.

Trump. LIED.

He LIED

He is a LIAR.

This isn't about hate.

This about TRUTH and LIES.

Trump keeps repeating LIES.

And you keep repeating Trump's LIES.

And you wonder why people get mad at you and Trump.

Do you lie to people often? Do you think it's okay to lie to people? Do you lie to your friends and family and members of your family? Do you lie to members of your community? Do you think it's okay for other people to lie?

When people, other than Trump, lie to your face. Do you forgive them and hail them as the God-Emperor for telling you what you want to hear? I don't think so. I think you get mad at people who lie to you, right? Why is this different for Trump? Because he's hurting the media you hate so much? Because he's kicking out illegal immigrants? Because he's appointing judges who you think will usher in a new era of bans on Abortion? Are those the reason why you think it's okay for Trump to lie? Is that why you accept his lies as the truth?

I don't get it. I don't understand why you worship this incompetent idiot who lies CONSTANTLY about EVERYTHING.

It makes NO sense to me.
 
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Proven safe? Links?

Sure


Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: Daily Roundup, March 25, 2020 | FDA
The FDA added hydroxychloroquine sulfate to category 1 under the Interim Policy on Compounding Using Bulk Drug Substances Under Section 503B of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. The FDA does not intend to object to registered outsourcing facilities using hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine phosphate, which was already on category 1), to compound human drugs provided the drugs meet other conditions and requirements in the FD&C Act. Compounding is generally a practice in which a licensed pharmacist, a licensed physician, or, in the case of an outsourcing facility, a person under the supervision of a licensed pharmacist, combines, mixes, or alters ingredients of a drug to create a medication tailored to the needs of an individual patient. The FDA is placing hydroxychloroquine sulfate on category 1 after it reviewed the nomination and determined there was sufficient information for the agency to evaluate the substance for outsourcing facilities to use in compounding. When FDA categorized hydroxychloroquine sulfate it did not change its approach, but we prioritized this substance due to the COVID-19 pandemic. There are currently no FDA approved therapeutics or drugs to treat, cure or prevent COVID-19; however, there are FDA-approved treatments that may help ease the symptoms of COVID-19. Additionally, state-licensed pharmacies and federal facilities that compound drugs under section 503A of the FD&C Act may compound drugs using hydroxychloroquine sulfate or chloroquine phosphate bulk drug substances because they are components of an FDA-approved drug, provide other requirements in the Act are met.
 
Robertinfremont:

Is this true or not true?



Do you disbelieve this line above?

Do you need me to show you the video clip where Trump said precisely what is described above?



Go to 1:20 and listen, watch and listen with your own eyes and your own ears.

This isn't some deep state conspiracy.

Trump. LIED.

He LIED

He is a LIAR.

This isn't about hate.

This about TRUTH and LIES.

Trump keeps repeating LIES.

And you keep repeating Trump's LIES.

And you wonder why people get mad at you and Trump.

Do you lie to people often? Do you think it's okay to lie to people? Do you lie to your friends and family and members of your family? Do you lie to members of your community? Do you think it's okay for other people to lie?

When people, other than Trump, lie to your face. Do you forgive them and hail them as the God-Emperor for telling you what you want to hear? I don't think so. I think you get mad at people who lie to you, right? Why is this different for Trump? Because he's hurting the media you hate so much? Because he's kicking out illegal immigrants? Because he's appointing judges who you think will usher in a new era of bans on Abortion? Are those the reason why you think it's okay for Trump to lie? Is that why you accept his lies as the truth?


Do you understand what he said??????????????

Did you hear him tell us that the Drug is an old and often used drug that has shown promise for the Coronavirus 19?

Bet you ignored that.

What did he call it. He called it a Malaria drug. This drug was approved by the FDA.

Still, if your doctor prescribes it for you, tell your doctor to go to hell since you hate Trump. Tell him that very statement.
 
Robertinfremont:

Is this true or not true?



Do you disbelieve this line above?

Do you need me to show you the video clip where Trump said precisely what is described above?



Go to 1:20 and listen, watch and listen with your own eyes and your own ears.

This isn't some deep state conspiracy.

Trump. LIED.

He LIED

He is a LIAR.

This isn't about hate.

This about TRUTH and LIES.

Trump keeps repeating LIES.

And you keep repeating Trump's LIES.

And you wonder why people get mad at you and Trump.

Do you lie to people often? Do you think it's okay to lie to people? Do you lie to your friends and family and members of your family? Do you lie to members of your community? Do you think it's okay for other people to lie?

When people, other than Trump, lie to your face. Do you forgive them and hail them as the God-Emperor for telling you what you want to hear? I don't think so. I think you get mad at people who lie to you, right? Why is this different for Trump? Because he's hurting the media you hate so much? Because he's kicking out illegal immigrants? Because he's appointing judges who you think will usher in a new era of bans on Abortion? Are those the reason why you think it's okay for Trump to lie? Is that why you accept his lies as the truth?

I don't get it. I don't understand why you worship this incompetent idiot who lies CONSTANTLY about EVERYTHING.

It makes NO sense to me.


That in red is why. That is a bald faced lie. To lecture me and then tell a red bald faced lie brands you as a Trump hater, making excuses it is his lies.

Stop lying if you actually hate lying.

According to the theory I believe you shove at is is turn your doctor down and give him hell for foisting off on you a Trump lie. How dare a doctor prescribe a drug he knows does not work.

Tell your doctor that if you get the disease.
 
A game changer does not mean a cure. Stop worrying about Trump and worry about patients.

You said "hint". Don't deny what you said. It was most certainly a hint. In fact, it was a big enough hint that a man and his wife decided to take an aquarium cleaner which contained hydroxychoroquine. The husband died and the wife is still in critical care. Where the **** do you think the guy and his wife heard about the drug? His wife even said they decided to take the aquarium cleaner after Trump touted the drug.

The nation went berzerk and had doctors prescribe the drug to the point that it is in short supply and endangering the lives of people who have lupus and depend on it. How in the hell do you think the nation suddenly became aware of the existence of hydroxychoroquine and damn near depleted the drug over several days? Coincidence? NOT BLOODY LIKELY. It occurred because of Trump's big ignorant hint.

Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
 
Sure


Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: Daily Roundup, March 25, 2020 | FDA
The FDA added hydroxychloroquine sulfate to category 1 under the Interim Policy on Compounding Using Bulk Drug Substances Under Section 503B of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act. The FDA does not intend to object to registered outsourcing facilities using hydroxychloroquine (or chloroquine phosphate, which was already on category 1), to compound human drugs provided the drugs meet other conditions and requirements in the FD&C Act. Compounding is generally a practice in which a licensed pharmacist, a licensed physician, or, in the case of an outsourcing facility, a person under the supervision of a licensed pharmacist, combines, mixes, or alters ingredients of a drug to create a medication tailored to the needs of an individual patient. The FDA is placing hydroxychloroquine sulfate on category 1 after it reviewed the nomination and determined there was sufficient information for the agency to evaluate the substance for outsourcing facilities to use in compounding. When FDA categorized hydroxychloroquine sulfate it did not change its approach, but we prioritized this substance due to the COVID-19 pandemic. There are currently no FDA approved therapeutics or drugs to treat, cure or prevent COVID-19; however, there are FDA-approved treatments that may help ease the symptoms of COVID-19. Additionally, state-licensed pharmacies and federal facilities that compound drugs under section 503A of the FD&C Act may compound drugs using hydroxychloroquine sulfate or chloroquine phosphate bulk drug substances because they are components of an FDA-approved drug, provide other requirements in the Act are met.

Where do you see the word safe? Where? ^^^^^

Most importantly look here - from the FDA. Warning, the link includes many pages and some big words. You can read it and believe what the FDA says or you can ignore it and trust in Trump and Fox News to provide you with information.

The FDA-approved labeling does not include information regarding safety or effectiveness in COVID-19. Please refer to this fact sheet for information on use of hydroxychloroquine sulfate under the EUA and the above link for FDA-approved labeling for additional information.
 
Where do you see the word safe? Where? ^^^^^

Most importantly look here - from the FDA. Warning, the link includes many pages and some big words. You can read it and believe what the FDA says or you can ignore it and trust in Trump and Fox News to provide you with information.

I read it and all it says is the label does not include warnings of danger using that drug.

Why not? Because the drug is already in common use.

If you want to visit an area heavily infested with malaria, they want you on this drug two weeks early.

Ask your doctor and tell them you refuse the drug should you get sick. Easy peasy. Say I hate Trump and hate the drug.
 
Where do you see the word safe? Where? ^^^^^

Most importantly look here - from the FDA. Warning, the link includes many pages and some big words. You can read it and believe what the FDA says or you can ignore it and trust in Trump and Fox News to provide you with information.

GREAT, FDA would denounce the drug if it was not safe.
 
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