Your own media on Coronavirus 19. Watch if you doubt me

lwf said:

Cuomo is not the president. De Blasio is not the president.

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Does that comment mean that so far as you are concerned, those two men are not leaders?

Both led the way in NY in downplaying the virus. And guess what state took the heavy toll?

Back over a month ago, i pointed at the states getting hit hardest. I pointed out each had Democrats running them. And got hammered for it.

But it turns out to be a phony claim against me given all the Trump hate clearly here in evidence.

Fishking said:

Gotta love the responses by the mind-slaves here. They've been programmed, 1984 style, by the media to believe a certain narrative and that narrative has been cemented in their mind as true. They then have poof put in front of them that there is something else, and their cognitive dissonance kicks in and they deflect, posture, ad hom, kick and scream...about anything but actually address the actual content.

Mentally, they cannot do it.

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Yes and I am well aware of this.

lwf said:

In 1984 the party that controlled the government was behind the propaganda and media censorship that was designed to police the thoughts of the public. Somehow I think that was the opposite of your point. The only news source that even comes close to this in our society are the political commentators in Trump's pocket who tow the party line on Fox News.

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The media apparatus in the U.S. is definitely connected to government, but it's mostly connected to the anti-GOP/Trump or conservative and pro-Dem/Nancy/ or liberal/progressive. Nice try though.

Also, still not addressing the point of the OP.

roguenuke said:

Lol, as if Trump and followers do not give out unfair criticism and mockery, and deserve at least a good portion of that criticism.

And it has already been shown that you were a Southern Democrat (regardless of where you lived). Are you going to claim you changed philosophies, lean?

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You were here for all of Obama and part of Bush 43 and I was on other forums.

If this forum was different, tell me so and shock the heck out of me.

Bush was trashed daily. 24 7 and the claim was Bush lied and men died.

True or false?

When Obama was president, we grumbled at his incompetence. No true follower of presidents rates him as competent. Obama proved it daily when he spoke to groups. If his teleprompter quit on him, it was like his vocal cords were ripped out and he lost his memory. He mumbled. A great public speaker does not mumble the way Obama mumbled. And he was dim witted. His decision making skills were absent. admit this please. When he got the completed oil pipeline process handed to him by Bush, Obama managed to fumble that for 8 years. His lack of command of the wars was clearly proof he was not competent.

So when i commented, it was to the weak points of Obama and not due to my wanting to be malicious. Trump haters are for a fact malicious.

Bush haters by the legions were malicious too.

I was shocked at how Obama poured gasoline on the race wars. And watched cities almost burn down. He supported Trayvon Martin as were he his own son. A man who beat up on the man that killed him in self defense.

roguenuke said:

The CO isnt personally responsible for ensuring the bilges are pumped or the alignment is correct so we dont send oil into Puget Sound, but guess who gets (got) the fine when a new watchstander messes that up? (Wasnt me, but I did have to provide a statement.) See, I can provide anecdotal evidence too that we do hold those in charge responsible when those under them screw up badly enough.

2016 Navy firings: Commanding officer, XO, senior enlisted

This is the level leaders should be held to.



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Will you apply that then to Cuomo and De Blasio? Do you hold Gov Gavin Newsom to account when he imported diseased humans into CA? I commented on that and caught holy hell from Democrats too.

roguenuke said:

The CO isnt personally responsible for ensuring the bilges are pumped or the alignment is correct so we dont send oil into Puget Sound, but guess who gets (got) the fine when a new watchstander messes that up? (Wasnt me, but I did have to provide a statement.) See, I can provide anecdotal evidence too that we do hold those in charge responsible when those under them screw up badly enough.

2016 Navy firings: Commanding officer, XO, senior enlisted

This is the level leaders should be held to.



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Let me see if you persuaded me.

So per your rules, those fired were the fault of Obama?

Robertinfremont said:

It was then a potential threat, not a proven threat. Even now, had he failed in his duty, we would likely by now have millions here infected. We have a lot but not into the millions. And even doctors can't cure it. The worry about ventilators is about a tool that loses 85 percent of it's patients. Most on ventilators die.

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Actually ,according to a study I posted about 33 percent recover not 15 percent. Hopefully we find meds that will help a much higher percentage to recover.