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100,000 deaths in USA. 10,000 deaths in China. How ?

"The Chinese lie", "Internet sources are fake"... and nothing else... Or should we just accept the undeniable fact, that the socialist state is more effective in cases of natural disasters and wars? Because it can quickly and much more effectively concentrate all the power of the state and the will of people to perform extraordinary efforts

Yes, one need only look at how the civilian citizens of the USSR responded during the Nazi invasion, particularly while under siege in Stalingrad for seven months and having to survive an especially savage winter.
 
While I absolutely understand the concern around this thing I am appalled at the acceptance by so many Americans of fundamental rights being abrogated in the interests of "safety" that they really don't understand.

What's so hard to understand about flattening the curve through social distancing?
 
What's so hard to understand about flattening the curve through social distancing?

Yes, the virus doesn't care about people's rights. Personally I'm quite happy to have my own movements restricted if it means staying relatively safe. I'm also quite happy for those whining about their rights to go out and get infected. Rights or avoiding a hideous premature death? Guess which I prefer.
 
Yes, the virus doesn't care about people's rights. Personally I'm quite happy to have my own movements restricted if it means staying relatively safe. I'm also quite happy for those whining about their rights to go out and get infected. Rights or avoiding a hideous premature death? Guess which I prefer.

Except that they go home, or elsewhere, and infect someone else. It's the epitome of selfishness.
 
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White House predicts 100,000 deaths in USA from coronavirus. China has 10,000 deaths. How did this happen ?

Easy: The first is a projection, the second is a lie.
 
Except that they go home, or elsewhere, and infect someone else.

Yes, it's just the common cold. I can't believe how many irresponsible idiots there are on this forum. Is it a coincidence that they all appear to be conservative?
 
White House predicts 100,000 deaths in USA from coronavirus. China has 10,000 deaths. How did this happen ?

Since January 2020, I was watching all those videos from China. It was really very bad.

Donald enjoying in India and bragging about Dow Jones 29000 all the time. Now United States of America is in lockdown for 30 days.

Let me help. China lied, and the deep staters in the US are making widly exaggerated predictions designed to turn the public against Trump. There will not be close to 100,00-240,000 deaths. Mark it down.
 
One country has complete control over it's citizens thru threat of brutal force. The other is a free society and must rely on it's citizens doing the right thing while guiding them without infringing on their Rights(freedom to move across state lines, right to gather, etc,.)

China HAS, WH PREDICTS. Not exactly apples to apples.

It's also possible both are incorrect.
 
The Iraq war. Colossal liars sent young people to die for a lie. American colossal liars.

Americans are colossal liars, I have been point this this out often here over the last few years.

We used to be better, another truth I keep speaking.
 
Yes, one need only look at how the civilian citizens of the USSR responded during the Nazi invasion, particularly while under siege in Stalingrad for seven months and having to survive an especially savage winter.

Examples of heroic fortress defenses have existed since ancient times, and this is not the most important thing in the victory over Nazism.
The Second world war, the war of engines, could not be won without industrial support for the heroism of people. In 1931, Stalin said: "We are 50-100 years behind the advanced capitalist countries, we have 10 years to reduce this gap, otherwise we will be crushed". In 1941, those, who were going to crush the USSR came. In ten years, thousands and thousands of large industrial enterprises were built.
But the most amazing thing was that far in the East of the country, beyond the Urals and in Siberia, the twin plant of the european territory plant was prepared, only concrete foundation, electricity supply and railway tracks. Can you imagine Ford building its factory in Detroit and just in case, its non working duplicate in Alaska?
When the war started and it started unsuccessfully, with defeats, in these hard conditions, sometimes under enemy fire, the factories were dismantled and transported to the east of the country, where in the harsh conditions of winter, they began to give the front products, sometimes even without walls and roofs over people's heads... 1500 of them! All this, the transportation of dismantled factories, in the conditions of war and defeat, given the enormous load for the railways, which had to work to the west, delivering products to the front and to the east, was impossible without A PLAN, a centralized plan. And of course, without the people, the titans, who were able to accomplish this feat... It was a really Great generation.
 
Let me help. China lied, and the deep staters in the US are making widly exaggerated predictions designed to turn the public against Trump. There will not be close to 100,00-240,000 deaths. Mark it down.

Donald Trump was enjoying in India. I was watching China videos (very bad). I knew it was coming...... I agree there must 20,000 people died from coronavirus in China.

If Americans do not read my website, there will be serious consequences for United States of America.
 
Examples of heroic fortress defenses have existed since ancient times, and this is not the most important thing in the victory over Nazism.
The Second world war, the war of engines, could not be won without industrial support for the heroism of people. In 1931, Stalin said: "We are 50-100 years behind the advanced capitalist countries, we have 10 years to reduce this gap, otherwise we will be crushed". In 1941, those, who were going to crush the USSR came. In ten years, thousands and thousands of large industrial enterprises were built.
But the most amazing thing was that far in the East of the country, beyond the Urals and in Siberia, the twin plant of the european territory plant was prepared, only concrete foundation, electricity supply and railway tracks. Can you imagine Ford building its factory in Detroit and just in case, its non working duplicate in Alaska?
When the war started and it started unsuccessfully, with defeats, in these hard conditions, sometimes under enemy fire, the factories were dismantled and transported to the east of the country, where in the harsh conditions of winter, they began to give the front products, sometimes even without walls and roofs over people's heads... 1500 of them! All this, the transportation of dismantled factories, in the conditions of war and defeat, given the enormous load for the railways, which had to work to the west, delivering products to the front and to the east, was impossible without A PLAN, a centralized plan. And of course, without the people, the titans, who were able to accomplish this feat... It was a really Great generation.

Yes, the achievements of the USSR were epic. Anthony Beevor's 'Stalingrad' is a superb history of the siege.
 
White House predicts 100,000 deaths in USA from coronavirus. China has 10,000 deaths. How did this happen ?

Since January 2020, I was watching all those videos from China. It was really very bad.

Donald enjoying in India and bragging about Dow Jones 29000 all the time. Now United States of America is in lockdown for 30 days.

China is lying. Case solved. :shrug:

Trump has done a terrible job from the very beginning. I think that's obvious to anyone will to be honest. And I'm not sure how accurate the US numbers are, and I can guarantee that the Chinese numbers are off just based on common sense. But I have no idea by how much and I don't have the experience or data to even guess if they really have 100k deaths or a million or even more. But we can all assume very safely that the 10k number is pure BS.
 
Let me help. China lied, and the deep staters in the US are making widly exaggerated predictions designed to turn the public against Trump. There will not be close to 100,00-240,000 deaths. Mark it down.

You literally just claimed that there wouldn't be over 130k cases in the US and we are sitting right at 190k as of this morning. Quit guessing and quit predicting. You have been wrong every step of the way. You desperately want this to not be bad based on pure political reasons alone and you aren't allowing yourself to think clearly. We might not have 100k deaths, but we also might have 300k. You don't know. You are just hoping. Quit pretending that it's anything other than hope.
 
"The Chinese lie", "Internet sources are fake"... and nothing else... Or should we just accept the undeniable fact, that the socialist state is more effective in cases of natural disasters and wars? Because it can quickly and much more effectively concentrate all the power of the state and the will of people to perform extraordinary efforts

I can believe both. I find it incredibly hard to believe that China has had essentially zero new cases in the past two weeks, and have no reason to believe any information they provide, given their systematic practice of hiding information and punishing anyone who gets in their way of doing so.
 
USA. The epidemic has entered a catastrophic stage, when every day without a strict nationwide quarantine is like death. Trump hesitates, says it's all flu-type stuff... Trump is a businessman who views politics as a chain of profitable (or not so) deals. Everything is simple - the opponent can be bought, or intimidated, and then bought. Here, there is no one to make the deal with, because the second party does not negotiate for objective reasons... That's it, he's in a stupor
 
Where are all the posters that mocked Italy because of their "socialist healthcare" and boasted that the US wouldn't have these issues?

P.S Apst I'm looking at you.
 
2500 people dead in New York
 
I expect the Chinese are blatantly lying about their death totals.
Mark the date. HH says something that makes sense.

The Chinese are colossal liars, and American Intel Sucks Ass so much that we did not figure this out for sure till now.
We would not know whether or not our intelligence community had a clue. They do not report to us. We do know that there stories of massive numbers of burial urns needed.

Where are all the posters that mocked Italy because of their "socialist healthcare" and boasted that the US wouldn't have these issues? P.S Apst I'm looking at you.
Gloating. It can be nice to be proven right.

2500 people dead in New York
I wonder how much mass transit played into that. The early outbreak was in a wealthy area, but not recently.
 
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