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Thousands of new cases of coronavirus in US

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As testing becomes more widely available, the number of those infected continues to rise rapidly. But what is the real story here that is under-reported? That as numbers of those infected skyrockets the number of those dying is not skyrocketing. There is one major takeaway from the numbers. The percentage of those infected from the disease who die from the disease is falling. We are now looking at the real possibility that maybe less than 1% of those infected with the virus end up dying from the virus. That seems to support the notion that panicking over the virus is totally out of order.
 
Newly infected vs being tested positive for the virus.
 
What is the percentage of those who were infected but lived have been left with some respiratory damage?
 
what respiratory damage will this virus cause for people in 20-40 years? to the kids that get it? to old people in 10 years?
 
tacomancer said:
We are showing in countries that Covid related deaths are probably under-reported. Frankly, the estimation can go up or down at this point, but that will be a question for statisticians after this is over. As it stands right now, protocols for counting cause of death probably still need to be revised for accuracy in all countries.

Uncounted among coronavirus victims, deaths sweep through Italy's nursing homes - Reuters
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The numbers also show that over 40% of the cases in this country are in the liberal state of NY with 67,000 reported. Why is it that the liberal states of NY, NJ, Washington, California lead the nation and are the first to blame the President for his reaction to divert from their own? It is interesting how big gov't liberals looking for a massive central gov't ignore the state and local responsibilities being handled in the bluest states in the nation. Placing blame is the hallmark of the liberal ideology never accepting responsibility
 
Conservative said:
The numbers also show that over 40% of the cases in this country are in the liberal state of NY with 67,000 reported. Why is it that the liberal states of NY, NJ, Washington, California lead the nation and are the first to blame the President for his reaction to divert from their own? It is interesting how big gov't liberals looking for a massive central gov't ignore the state and local responsibilities being handled in the bluest states in the nation. Placing blame is the hallmark of the liberal ideology never accepting responsibility
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Yes, epidemics tend to start in places with more economic activity, international trade, ports, and cities. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

In countries where the curve is bending best tend to have had a centralized response. Look at S. Korea and other EMEA locations for good examples.
 
marke said:
As testing becomes more widely available, the number of those infected continues to rise rapidly. But what is the real story here that is under-reported? That as numbers of those infected skyrockets the number of those dying is not skyrocketing. There is one major takeaway from the numbers. The percentage of those infected from the disease who die from the disease is falling. We are now looking at the real possibility that maybe less than 1% of those infected with the virus end up dying from the virus. That seems to support the notion that panicking over the virus is totally out of order.
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Of course. And Dr. Fauci is on of those who are "totally out of order".
 
Crosscheck said:
What is the percentage of those who were infected but lived have been left with some respiratory damage?
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Doesn't count. Neither does any new positive test after recovery.
 
marke said:
As testing becomes more widely available, the number of those infected continues to rise rapidly. But what is the real story here that is under-reported? That as numbers of those infected skyrockets the number of those dying is not skyrocketing. There is one major takeaway from the numbers. The percentage of those infected from the disease who die from the disease is falling. We are now looking at the real possibility that maybe less than 1% of those infected with the virus end up dying from the virus. That seems to support the notion that panicking over the virus is totally out of order.
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This was the common sense the scientists never displayed. Scientists treated coronavirus like it was the mother of all pandemics without any proof of it being the mother of all pandemics. I know the pandemic is new and NOBODY has any experience with this or with the rollout of it from China but scientists are extraordinarily cautious, IMO, for what reason?
 
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What is the percentage of those who were infected but lived have been left with some respiratory damage?
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Those who suffer long term lung damage are those who develop the most serious symptoms. I don't think there is much chance of asymptomatic or mild cases ended up with lung damage. The worst of the severe cases result in the lung tissue releasing cytokines that in turn signal inflammatory damage in other organs. This is the case with a lot of severe illnesses and severe tissue damage.

But that doesn't happen if your body successfully fights off the illness in its mild stages.
 
tacomancer said:
Yes, epidemics tend to start in places with more economic activity, international trade, ports, and cities. Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

In countries where the curve is bending best tend to have had a centralized response. Look at S. Korea and other EMEA locations for good examples.
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We also have not tested very much in red states. Here in gool ol' Texas, we've barely tested, but it's for sure spreading everywhere. It's even gotten up to my college's county.
 
Couple of points, while more testing is a good thing, especially if it shows there are far more infections than we knew. Thing is with deaths many of those that will get it and die may not already have been infected. The experts are saying that if we follow the guidelines the peek in infections and deaths will come in April that means we are still just guessing at infection and death rates.
No, folks this is not the flu not is it something to take lightly, to do so does not only put you in danger it also puts those you love and those you intereact with in danger. Follow the guidelines
 
marke said:
As testing becomes more widely available, the number of those infected continues to rise rapidly. But what is the real story here that is under-reported? That as numbers of those infected skyrockets the number of those dying is not skyrocketing. There is one major takeaway from the numbers. The percentage of those infected from the disease who die from the disease is falling. We are now looking at the real possibility that maybe less than 1% of those infected with the virus end up dying from the virus. That seems to support the notion that panicking over the virus is totally out of order.
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Scientists and others point to number of cases of coronavirus as the most important figure as if scientists and others feel coronavirus is the mother of all pandemics and that EVERYONE will die or come close to it after exposure to coronavirus - Mistake number one.

That scientists didn't propose a quarantine early on for those most susceptible to coronavirus and that social distancing of any kind doesn't protect anyone from being exposed to coronavirus - Mistake number 2.
 
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Casper said:
Couple of points, while more testing is a good thing, especially if it shows there are far more infections than we knew. Thing is with deaths many of those that will get it and die may not already have been infected. The experts are saying that if we follow the guidelines the peek in infections and deaths will come in April that means we are still just guessing at infection and death rates.
No, folks this is not the flu not is it something to take lightly, to do so does not only put you in danger it also puts those you love and those you intereact with in danger. Follow the guidelines
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Unfortunately, there's plenty of idiots still not taking it seriously.
 
Casper said:
Couple of points, while more testing is a good thing, especially if it shows there are far more infections than we knew. Thing is with deaths many of those that will get it and die may not already have been infected. The experts are saying that if we follow the guidelines the peek in infections and deaths will come in April that means we are still just guessing at infection and death rates.
No, folks this is not the flu not is it something to take lightly, to do so does not only put you in danger it also puts those you love and those you intereact with in danger. Follow the guidelines
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Coronavirus is also not the mother of all pandemics as scientists and many people are treating it and social distancing of any kind doesn't protect anyone from coronavirus exposure.
 
Conservative said:
The numbers also show that over 40% of the cases in this country are in the liberal state of NY with 67,000 reported. Why is it that the liberal states of NY, NJ, Washington, California lead the nation and are the first to blame the President for his reaction to divert from their own? It is interesting how big gov't liberals looking for a massive central gov't ignore the state and local responsibilities being handled in the bluest states in the nation. Placing blame is the hallmark of the liberal ideology never accepting responsibility
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Who woulda thunk that the most infected people would be where most people live? Crazy huh? :congrats:
 
marke said:
As testing becomes more widely available, the number of those infected continues to rise rapidly. But what is the real story here that is under-reported? That as numbers of those infected skyrockets the number of those dying is not skyrocketing. There is one major takeaway from the numbers. The percentage of those infected from the disease who die from the disease is falling. We are now looking at the real possibility that maybe less than 1% of those infected with the virus end up dying from the virus. That seems to support the notion that panicking over the virus is totally out of order.
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Current numbers are not reflecting reality as US is still in relatively early stage and all hospitals are not full yet, people are getting tired (working long days at hospitals), step by step, it's a long process - long way to go until this is all gone.



For example: here, where I am (Finland), estimate for highest peak of cases is in summer June/July - so we have long way to go past that. I hope it's not killing more than 15000 in Finland - now we are at 17 deaths, but it's not even near what's happening later on. I'm pretty sure we run out of capacity here, even with current counter measures and that point death toll will spike a lot.

US has different structure (hospitals/scale of different health issues, so on) and way more people, bigger cities, etc.. but some factors are same, it's about capacity and if there's enough people in hospitals or not. Some of them are getting sick too and it's going to make things more difficult. US speed up graduation for new doctors by 1 month now (wise move) and here we are training new staff for hospitals (ER nurses mostly) as we are going to lose some of them in process when this coronavirus is making havoc in hospitals. Better have enough people, so you can save energy and work in 3-shift-style => you're not burning out.
 
poweRob said:
Who woulda thunk that the most infected people would be where most people live? Crazy huh? :congrats:
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Yes, who would have thunk it, TX is in that population category as is Illinois but keep ignoring the harm people like you are doing to this country as if you give a damn. Keep placing blame and serving no purpose other than divide and create chaos.
 
Conservative said:
Yes, who would have thunk it, TX is in that population category as is Illinois but keep ignoring the harm people like you are doing to this country as if you give a damn. Keep placing blame and serving no purpose other than divide and create chaos.
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So dense population areas spread faster than less dense population areas. It's so amazingly difficult for you to understand. But alas you are on a mission of blame so playing ignorant on the obvious suits your mission.
 
poweRob said:
So dense population areas spread faster than less dense population areas. It's so amazingly difficult for you to understand. But alas you are on a mission of blame so playing ignorant on the obvious suits your mission.
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Yes, as does the liberal policies that promote that kind of action. Don't recall seeing the state of Washington and NJ at the top of the population list. It isn't difficult to understand at all radical liberalism which you promote. Always placing Blame and never accepting responsibility. You spend 24/7 here doing nothing but promoting politics of personal destruction, class envy, jealousy, and anti Trump rhetoric. Is this a full time paid job for you?
 
TheGoverness said:
Unfortunately, there's plenty of idiots still not taking it seriously.
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Which means the government, State and Local need to start enforcement of the rules. Never forget many have an attitude that they won't get it and if they do it will very mild, they may find out differently the hard copy of the way. Keep on waiting for the Governor to shutdown the major city/counties where it is worst, or follow the example of other States and shut down their State. You are witnessing history in the making, something you can tell your grandkids one day
 
poweRob said:
So dense population areas spread faster than less dense population areas. It's so amazingly difficult for you to understand. But alas you are on a mission of blame so playing ignorant on the obvious suits your mission.
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Don't interrupt them when they are ranting, they have to get it out, blood pressure needs to vent.
 
Conservative said:
The numbers also show that over 40% of the cases in this country are in the liberal state of NY with 67,000 reported. Why is it that the liberal states of NY, NJ, Washington, California lead the nation and are the first to blame the President for his reaction to divert from their own? It is interesting how big gov't liberals looking for a massive central gov't ignore the state and local responsibilities being handled in the bluest states in the nation. Placing blame is the hallmark of the liberal ideology never accepting responsibility
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The democrat governors of hardest hit states have let the people of their states down, if it is the responsibility of the governors to cure all ills and stop all epidemics.
 
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