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Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

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(CNN)President Donald Trump acknowledged Sunday for the first time that deaths in the United States from coronavirus could reach 100,000 or more, adding that if the death toll stays at or below 100,000, "we all together have done a very good job."
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On Sunday, Trump said during an evening news conference at the White House that he'd decided to extend the nationwide social distancing guidelines -- which include suggested limits on large gatherings -- for another 30 days to April 30.
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Source: Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

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To recap:

1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.

2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.

3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.

As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
 
How does it go again?

"It's just one guy from China."

"It will go from fifteen to zero."

"It's like a miracle will happen."

"One hundred thousand dead Americans is a win."
 
Chomsky said:
Source: Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

[Video Contained in Article]

To recap:

1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.

2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.

3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.

As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
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It is good to hear him acknowledge scientific facts. Um, didn't Fauci say this essentially, in that Trump has his own style but that he knows he listens to him? He's listening.
I applaud him for saying it 'damn straight up, skippy'
His warnings should not be ignored and yes, I have to wonder if he now knows this thing is out of control and will be much worse than 100k.
 
Chomsky said:
Source: Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

[Video Contained in Article]

To recap:

1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.

2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.

3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.

As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
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(Sigh) Can you tell us what he should be saying so that you won't be so worried?

I don't understand. Trump talks things UP, and some people say he is blind to reality.

Trump talks things DOWN and people say he is scaring people.

The man simply can't win with some people.

Now I think 100,000 dead is a reasonable estimate, and while sad, is nothing to be so shocked about.

Time and time again I have to remind people that we had 80,000 people die of the Flu in 2018, while in 2019 it was 61,200. 2018-2019 Flu Season Was the Longest in 10 Years, CDC Says | Time

So we have a new illness, and the projections for it's first appearance in the USA could be 100,000 deaths; perhaps even a little more.

I say if we look at this in such a perspective, it might help to calm people down.

Again I am not dismissing the death toll...but perhaps we need to take a breath, recognize this is not even close to earth-shattering, and stop over-dramatizing.

This too shall pass.
 
trixare4kids said:
It is good to hear him acknowledge scientific facts. Um, didn't Fauci say this essentially, in that Trump has his own style but that he knows he listens to him? He's listening.
I applaud him for saying it 'damn straight up, skippy'
His warnings should not be ignored and yes, I have to wonder if he now knows this thing is out of control and will be much worse than 100k.
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I think we're setting our sights too low here, with Trump. And that's what scares me.

For him to come-out like that today was either out of character, or if still in character it's then scariest thing I've ever heard. Why? Because there's a cadre of legit appearing people who believe we will end up with 1 or 1.2M to 4M deceased. And if true, I have no faith Trump would tell us the truth.
 
Captain Adverse said:
(Sigh) Can you tell us what he should be saying so that you won't be so worried?

I don't understand. Trump talks things UP, and some people say he is blind to reality.

Trump talks things DOWN and people say he is scaring people.

The man simply can't win with some people.

Now I think 100,000 dead is a reasonable estimate, and while sad, is nothing to be so shocked about.

Time and time again I have to remind people that we had 80,000 people die of the Flu in 2018, while in 2019 it was 61,200. 2018-2019 Flu Season Was the Longest in 10 Years, CDC Says | Time

So we have a new illness, and the projections for it's first appearance in the USA could be 100,000 deaths; perhaps even a little more.

I say if we look at this in such a perspective, it might help to calm people down.

Again I am not dismissing the death toll...but perhaps we need to take a breath, recognize this is not even close to earth-shattering, and stop over-dramatizing.

This too shall pass.
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You make some good points here, especially the bolded points.

Don't you know yet? He can never ever do anything right.
 
Chomsky said:
I think we're setting our sights too low here, with Trump. And that's what scares me.

For him to come-out like that today was either out of character, or if still in character it's then scariest thing I've ever heard. Why? Because there's a cadre of legit appearing people who believe we will end up with 1 or 1.2M to 4M deceased. And if true, I have no faith Trump would tell us the truth.
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Color me surprised.
 
Chomsky said:
I think we're setting our sights too low here, with Trump. And that's what scares me.

For him to come-out like that today was either out of character, or if still in character it's then scariest thing I've ever heard. Why? Because there's a cadre of legit appearing people who believe we will end up with 1 or 1.2M to 4M deceased. And if true, I have no faith Trump would tell us the truth.
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Fauci warned today it will be in the arena of 100-200k
I'm gonna' go with his figures. Not sure where the 1-4 million is coming from, but as I said, Trump is listening to Fauci.

Isn't that what your side, the anti-Trumps, want him to do?

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't? ;)
 
Chomsky said:
Source: Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

[Video Contained in Article]

To recap:

1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.

2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.

3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.

As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
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And he sees that as a win, being the sociopathic whore that his worshipers demand.
 
trixare4kids said:
It is good to hear him acknowledge scientific facts. Um, didn't Fauci say this essentially, in that Trump has his own style but that he knows he listens to him? He's listening.
I applaud him for saying it 'damn straight up, skippy'
His warnings should not be ignored and yes, I have to wonder if he now knows this thing is out of control and will be much worse than 100k.
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Your blind idiot god isn't acknowledging scientific facts. He's talking about his ratings and making this all about him. He's a literal ****ing retard.

"You can call it a germ, you can call it a flu, you can call it a virus, you know you can call it many different names. I'm not sure anybody even knows what it is."
 
100,000 dead from a pandemic he did nothing to stop and everything to make possible is a "win."

It's a death cult.
 
Vietnam War was 50,000.

Korean War was 50,000.
 
trixare4kids said:
Fauci warned today it will be in the arena of 100-200k
I'm gonna' go with his figures. Not sure where the 1-4 million is coming from, but as I said, Trump is listening to Fauci.

Isn't that what your side, the anti-Trumps, want him to do?

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't? ;)
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It would really make a difference if everyone was on the same page and listened to Dr. Fauci and not Trump because all he's doing is making his press conferences nothing other than a replacement for the rallies he's not having. He's taking pokes at governors and mayors and name calling. This is not the time or place for this kind of theatrics and nobody needs to hear him brag how his ratings are better than The Apprentice or some other television show. Who gives a **** when we're battling a pandemic? Heed the words and advice from Dr. Fauci, he's the only one up there not in this to give Trump praise or pander to him in any way. He's there for the truth and facts, nothing else, so believe him -- not Trump. And no, we're not going to 'ride that cowboy'.
 
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Chomsky said:
Source: Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

[Video Contained in Article]

To recap:

1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.

2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.

3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.

As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
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I don't know what to say either. So far we've had 142,000 cases give or take and close to 2,500 deaths. With a bit over 40% of all cases in New York state with just a bit under 40% of all deaths. I'm not sure what to make of that either. Half of all cases are in the states of New York/New Jersey. Is that because they are so densely populated and rely so much on public transportation? I don't know.

But perhaps there's hope that we won't reach the 100,000 deaths. We've had roughly 19,000 new cases on the 27th, again on the 28th and again on the 29th. I'm hoping the number of new cases will soon begin to fall. But then if it does and we immediately relax the rules, might that not precipitate a new rise in cases? so many unknowns.

Has Trump done a good job on the Corona Virus, apparently a slight majority of Americans think so.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus

Most democrats think Trump has done an awful job, most republicans think he has done an excellent job. Independents are fairly split. Like most political issues, whether one is for or against, good job or bad job, approve or disapprove is determined by one's political party affiliation. It ought not be that way, but in our current era of polarization, ultra high partisanship, I'm not one bit surprised.
 
trixare4kids said:
It is good to hear him acknowledge scientific facts. Um, didn't Fauci say this essentially, in that Trump has his own style but that he knows he listens to him? He's listening.
I applaud him for saying it 'damn straight up, skippy'
His warnings should not be ignored and yes, I have to wonder if he now knows this thing is out of control and will be much worse than 100k.
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:ranton:
No matter what the topic is these guys just can't get around "Orange Man Bad". First they jump all over him for not taking the virus seriously enough, now they're on him for being too serious. And all he did was echo the words of Dr. Fauci.

Fauci says 100,000 to 200,000 Trump says if we can keep it to Fauci's LOW estimate we're doing good and loonies on the left jump in his **** again. WTF, seriously WTF?

:rantoff:
 
Cardinal said:
You are a sick and evil person.
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Well he didn't tell you that you're gonna' get coronavirus and that you should feel proud for supporting the president, did he?
 
Bullseye said:
:ranton:
No matter what the topic is these guys just can't get around "Orange Man Bad". First they jump all over him for not taking the virus seriously enough, now they're on him for being too serious. And all he did was echo the words of Dr. Fauci.

Fauci says 100,000 to 200,000 Trump says if we can keep it to Fauci's LOW estimate we're doing good and loonies on the left jump in his **** again. WTF, seriously WTF?

:rantoff:
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Sorry we made fun of your tangerine Jesus.
 
Bullseye said:
No matte what the topic is these guys just can't get around "Orange Man Bad". First they jump all over him for not taking the virus seriously enough, now they're on him for being too serious. And all he did was echo the words of Dr. Fauci.

Fauci says 100,000 to 200,000 Trump says if we can keep it to Fauci's LOW estimate we're doing good and loonies on the left jump in his **** again. WTF, seriously WTF?

:rantoff:
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I never thought I would see the day where human beings would weaponize the virus to use against a president they detest.

People like that are basically garden variety **** roaches.
 
trixare4kids said:
Well he didn't tell you that you're gonna' get coronavirus and that you should feel proud for supporting the president, did he?
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You will get coronavirus, trix, same as the rest of us. It's the reality we're all a part of.
 
trixare4kids said:
I never thought I would see the day where human beings would weaponize the virus to use against a president they detest.

People like that are basically garden variety **** roaches.
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I never through I'd see the day a president tried to withhold disaster relief to a state because he doesn't like the governor of that state.

So spare me your hypocritical bull****, eh?
 
Perotista said:
I don't know what to say either. So far we've had 142,000 cases give or take and close to 2,500 deaths. With a bit over 40% of all cases in New York state with just a bit under 40% of all deaths. I'm not sure what to make of that either. Half of all cases are in the states of New York/New Jersey. Is that because they are so densely populated and rely so much on public transportation? I don't know.

But perhaps there's hope that we won't reach the 100,000 deaths. We've had roughly 19,000 new cases on the 27th, again on the 28th and again on the 29th. I'm hoping the number of new cases will soon begin to fall. But then if it does and we immediately relax the rules, might that not precipitate a new rise in cases? so many unknowns.

Has Trump done a good job on the Corona Virus, apparently a slight majority of Americans think so.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of President Trump's Handling of the Coronavirus

Most democrats think Trump has done an awful job, most republicans think he has done an excellent job. Independents are fairly split. Like most political issues, whether one is for or against, good job or bad job, approve or disapprove is determined by one's political party affiliation. It ought not be that way, but in our current era of polarization, ultra high partisanship, I'm not one bit surprised.
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The way the US and Canada are doing things, we will not crush the virus, eliminating it from the countries, but slow the infection rate. China locked down a province, shut down much of its economy for 2 months and tracked everyone who might have been infected and those they contacted to attempt to eliminate the virus. South Korea, tested, and quarantined masses of people in an attempt to get ahead of the virus. It did not shut down its economy but did from the looks of it get ahead of the virus and contain it after what looked like was going to be a very bad situation.

The US could have used the testing kit that SK developed, it worked well, it could have followed the same containment and control method that SK did. That part comes down on Trump, the same failures that Italy and Spain have had in their leadership. UK seems to be following the same poor decisions. The US had 1.5 months of lead time from when we knew it was bad in China to get ahead of the issue rather than bury our heads in the sand. Our leaders did not, and that is a failure on them.
 
Hamish Howl said:
How does it go again?

"It's just one guy from China."

"It will go from fifteen to zero."

"It's like a miracle will happen."

"One hundred thousand dead Americans is a win."
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If ever there was a time for Dean Winters to portray Mayhem as the COVID19 virus, it's now.

Dean Winters Mayhem2.jpg
 
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