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Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

Chomsky said:
Source: Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

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To recap:

1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.

2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.

3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.

As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
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100,000 deaths translates into 5 1/2 - 6 million cases.
 
Captain Adverse said:
(Sigh) Can you tell us what he should be saying so that you won't be so worried?

I don't understand. Trump talks things UP, and some people say he is blind to reality.

Trump talks things DOWN and people say he is scaring people.

The man simply can't win with some people.

Now I think 100,000 dead is a reasonable estimate, and while sad, is nothing to be so shocked about.

Time and time again I have to remind people that we had 80,000 people die of the Flu in 2018, while in 2019 it was 61,200. 2018-2019 Flu Season Was the Longest in 10 Years, CDC Says | Time

So we have a new illness, and the projections for it's first appearance in the USA could be 100,000 deaths; perhaps even a little more.

I say if we look at this in such a perspective, it might help to calm people down.

Again I am not dismissing the death toll...but perhaps we need to take a breath, recognize this is not even close to earth-shattering, and stop over-dramatizing.

This too shall pass.
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To the bolded...the issue is that he should not talk it up or down. In that "Pandemic Playbook" consistent messaging is of prime importance. A clear and consistent message. When from the beginning we have heard mixed messaging it gets rather difficult for people to understand the actual nature of what they are facing. When he rails on about fake news and talks of the cuff as if he knows more than everyone else it is confusing.

He needs to let the experts speak to the science stuff.

He needs to stop this ego driven diatribes and understand it is not all about him.
 
Captain Adverse said:
(Sigh) Can you tell us what he should be saying so that you won't be so worried?

I don't understand. Trump talks things UP, and some people say he is blind to reality.

Trump talks things DOWN and people say he is scaring people.

The man simply can't win with some people.

Now I think 100,000 dead is a reasonable estimate, and while sad, is nothing to be so shocked about.

Time and time again I have to remind people that we had 80,000 people die of the Flu in 2018, while in 2019 it was 61,200. 2018-2019 Flu Season Was the Longest in 10 Years, CDC Says | Time

So we have a new illness, and the projections for it's first appearance in the USA could be 100,000 deaths; perhaps even a little more.

I say if we look at this in such a perspective, it might help to calm people down.

Again I am not dismissing the death toll...but perhaps we need to take a breath, recognize this is not even close to earth-shattering, and stop over-dramatizing.

This too shall pass.
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What's scary? The fact that Trump lies like a rug, only approaching the truth when dragged into it. So it's my fear he's lying here, too. And if he's lying about trying to keep it down to 100K, then I gravely fear the real number.

As an aside, I've already had one death of one of my kid's classmate's parents, and another in my parish. My wife's professional colleague is hospitalized, her husband is positive, sick, quarantined at home. He is panicked of what to do with his 8 year old, if he gets worse. The other nearby neighborhood (non-Catholic) church had nearly 50 that tested positive, including the pastor. And it's just heating up, though you'd never know it from my neighborhood - we're really on fire. Two of our regular everyday supermarkets closed due to employees having Covid, and ditto for my vet. All these businesses, churches, and people, are within a 6 or 8 block radius of me.

When those you know start dying, it has a way of bringing it home.
 
Chomsky said:
Source: Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

[Video Contained in Article]

To recap:

1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.

2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.

3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.

As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
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In how much time? Are we picking numbers like a bookie?
 
Chomsky said:
What's scary? The fact that Trump lies like a rug, only approaching the truth when dragged into it. So it's my fear he's lying here, too. And if he's lying about trying to keep it down to 100K, then I gravely fear the real number.
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I'm sorry you believe this. I truly am. I won't belabor the point, as you already know my position on this.

Chomsky said:
As an aside, I've already had one death of one of my kid's classmate's parents, and another in my parish. My wife's professional colleague is hospitalized, her husband is positive, sick, quarantined at home. He is panicked of what to do with his 8 year old, if he gets worse. The other nearby neighborhood (non-Catholic) church had nearly 50 that tested positive, including the pastor. And it's just heating up, though you'd never know it from my neighborhood - we're really on fire. Two of our regular everyday supermarkets closed due to employees having Covid, and ditto for my vet. All these businesses, churches, and people, are within a 6 or 8 block radius of me.
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My condolences to you, and to your friends. I hope you (and your family) remain safe and healthy, and I understand somewhat better your concerns.

Chomsky said:
When those you know start dying, it has a way of bringing it home.
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I can appreciate this, and once again hope the best for you, your friends, and family.
 
trixare4kids said:
I never thought I would see the day where human beings would weaponize the virus to use against a president they detest.
People like that are basically garden variety **** roaches.
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I never thought I’d see a trump supporter dehumanize political opponents and call Americans... cockroaches. Just kidding, I totally expected something evil like that from you. I’d ban you for it if I could.

Have you not been been watching Trumps rallies...I mean daily briefings? He has politicized this all day every day. He talked about his ratings alone for five minutes today.
 
Captain Adverse said:
(Sigh) Can you tell us what he should be saying so that you won't be so worried?

I don't understand. Trump talks things UP, and some people say he is blind to reality.

Trump talks things DOWN and people say he is scaring people.

The man simply can't win with some people.

Now I think 100,000 dead is a reasonable estimate, and while sad, is nothing to be so shocked about.

Time and time again I have to remind people that we had 80,000 people die of the Flu in 2018, while in 2019 it was 61,200. 2018-2019 Flu Season Was the Longest in 10 Years, CDC Says | Time

So we have a new illness, and the projections for it's first appearance in the USA could be 100,000 deaths; perhaps even a little more.

I say if we look at this in such a perspective, it might help to calm people down.

Again I am not dismissing the death toll...but perhaps we need to take a breath, recognize this is not even close to earth-shattering, and stop over-dramatizing.

This too shall pass.
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trump should continue to tell us how great the ratings are of his pressers. He should also continue to blatantly LIE at his pressers by stating he didn’t say what he’s on tape saying two days ago.

trump’s campaign could care less how many Americans die, especially in Blue states and Blue cities. The campaign does care about campaign ads using trump’s very own words in a timeline.
 
Mach said:
I never thought I’d see a trump supporter dehumanize political opponents and call Americans... cockroaches. Just kidding, I totally expected something evil like that from you. I’d ban you for it if I could.

Have you not been been watching Trumps rallies...I mean daily briefings? He has politicized this all day every day. He talked about his ratings alone for five minutes today.
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It's different when spray tan Jesus does it. Hell, he can actively try to kill random Americans over an imagined grudge, and THAT is okay.

You have to remember that the MAGA thing is a death cult.
 
Chomsky said:
Source: Trump concedes US coronavirus death toll could be 100,000 or more

[Video Contained in Article]

To recap:

1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.

2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.

3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.

As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
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Its just the flu. Its all an over reaction.:roll:
 
Captain Adverse said:
(Sigh) Can you tell us what he should be saying so that you won't be so worried?

I don't understand. Trump talks things UP, and some people say he is blind to reality.

Trump talks things DOWN and people say he is scaring people.

The man simply can't win with some people.

Now I think 100,000 dead is a reasonable estimate, and while sad, is nothing to be so shocked about.

Time and time again I have to remind people that we had 80,000 people die of the Flu in 2018, while in 2019 it was 61,200. 2018-2019 Flu Season Was the Longest in 10 Years, CDC Says | Time

So we have a new illness, and the projections for it's first appearance in the USA could be 100,000 deaths; perhaps even a little more.

I say if we look at this in such a perspective, it might help to calm people down.

Again I am not dismissing the death toll...but perhaps we need to take a breath, recognize this is not even close to earth-shattering, and stop over-dramatizing.

This too shall pass.
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The inevitable end point for apologists: demand to know what we want from him as soon as he comes to the right calculation on one thing.

It's really simple: DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND STOP ****ING IT UP.
 
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Cardinal said:
You will get coronavirus, trix, same as the rest of us. It's the reality we're all a part of.
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And she'll probably never even know it.
 
Mach said:
I never thought I’d see a trump supporter dehumanize political opponents and call Americans... cockroaches. Just kidding, I totally expected something evil like that from you. I’d ban you for it if I could.

Have you not been been watching Trumps rallies...I mean daily briefings? He has politicized this all day every day. He talked about his ratings alone for five minutes today.
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trump is sick. His brain is a blank check when it comes to governing. He only knows how lie and double-speak when answering questions.

Look at the hoops his supporters have to jump through to support his sickness. Is it any wonder they’d accuse Americans of wanting more Death, when our loved ones are at-risk workingnin hospitals and in nursing homes?
 
Chomsky said:
To recap:
1] Trump sets 100K dead as the standard for doing a good job.
2] Trump extends the shut-down until May.
3] In response Dow Futures went limit down, but have since retraced a fair amount.
As to some commentary, well I'm not sure what to say. If it hasn't become real enough, it looks like it just got more real. If Trump is now claiming 100K deaths will be a good thing, knowing Trump's propensity for salesmanship and his loose relationship with the truth, I'm now getting more worried. No other way to put it. This does not sound good.
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Hard to imagine we can keep it that low given that half the population believes it’s the flu hyped up by media and dems (apparently around the entire world???)
And let’s be honest..probably 20% or more will just not take it seriously no matter who tells them to. I figure for those at risk...12-18months. For those who don’t care or are in remote areas, they may have it easier. But most people will have to brave this at some point. If kids return to school in August, I imagine it would effectively end any chance of isolation for many.
 
Linc said:
trump is sick. His brain is a blank check when it comes to governing. He only knows how lie and double-speak when answering questions.
Look at the hoops his supporters have to jump through to support his sickness. Is it any wonder they’d accuse Americans of wanting more Death, when our loved ones are at-risk workingnin hospitals and in nursing homes?
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Right wing media is si k.
Trump supporters are now a problem that has no happy ending.
Trump is just a figurehead of that problem. Without Trump we will still have the evil of people calling us cockroaches, Fox fake news, and Rush calling it the common cold, etc. line up the old people...Republicans have said..time for them to sacrifice for the economy right? But Obama death panels. The world is upside down.
 
Mach said:
Right wing media is si k.
Trump supporters are now a problem that has no happy ending.
Trump is just a figurehead of that problem. Without Trump we will still have the evil of people calling us cockroaches, Fox fake news, and Rush calling it the common cold, etc. line up the old people...Republicans have said..time for them to sacrifice for the economy right? But Obama death panels. The world is upside down.
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Yeah, Trix went into the Joko box with that comment.
 
Fiddytree said:
The inevitable end point for apologists...It's really simple: DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AND STOP ****ING IT UP.
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The inevitable end-point of disparagers; assert omniscience and demand perfection based on 20/20 hindsight and confirmation bias.

You see? Anyone can play your game.

Try again? :coffeepap:
 
This is like a Netflix series where we know how it ends. This is gonna peak in a couple weeks. We will probably end up with around 67 thousand deaths...maybe. Unfortunately, every day is like a new episode. The US leads the world in Corona Virus cases...OOOHH! We may have 100,000 deaths..OOOOHHH! Liberals hate Trump..OOOHH!

I'm getting concerned about the growing number of Coronavirus threads. We are approaching 1000 of them.

Do you people realize how sick you are?
 
Hamish Howl said:
Yeah, Trix went into the Joko box with that comment.
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People not long ago were inspired to kill other Americans to help keep blacks as human slaves. I mean, what’s changed in a few hundred years? Not much for those types. Scary times.
 
Mongidig said:
This is like a Netflix series where we know how it ends. This is gonna peak in a couple weeks. We will probably end up with around 67 thousand deaths...maybe. Unfortunately, every day is like a new episode. The US leads the world in Corona Virus cases...OOOHH! We may have 100,000 deaths..OOOOHHH! Liberals hate Trump..OOOHH!

I'm getting concerned about the growing number of Coronavirus threads. We are approaching 1000 of them.

Do you people realize how sick you are?
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Then bugger off to the MSM section.
 
Hamish Howl said:
That man is the patron saint of my job site.
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Mine too...specifically, he is the patron saint of the rat's nest of spaghetti that I have all through my sloppy edit bay.
There just isn't enough space to dress this stuff correctly in this glorified closet of a room, it's maybe eleven feet by nine feet, I think.
And...I'm old and getting lazy...all the stuff works perfectly but I can see getting tripped up by all the twisted cables and becoming an Allstate commercial.

edit bay 6704.jpg

"I'm the rat's nest of cables behind your edit bay. And while you're rendering the latest masterpiece music video for MTV, I'm figuring out just how many amperes it takes to start melting all those glorious copper wires. All it takes is one misstep behind the equipment racks...uh ohhhh, red and black just got zapped...You just crossed the streams!"
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Captain Adverse said:
The inevitable end-point of disparagers; assert omniscience and demand perfection based on 20/20 hindsight and confirmation bias.

You see? Anyone can play your game.

Try again? :coffeepap:
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Except that's not what the medical community had been saying for months, so, I guess you have a point somewhere in there?
 
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