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Trump announces 30-day extension of coronavirus guidelines

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rocket88 said:
Trump announces 30-day extension of coronavirus guidelines - Axios



I guess we're off the Easter thing then. Which is probably good.
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Perhaps. But we can't stay on lock-down forever.

People need to earn a living. Food has to be harvested and processed. Businesses have to get back to business. Trade has to start again.

It all might have to come down to "herd immunity."

At some point, risk or no risk, we need to get back to as normal as we can achieve under the circumstances.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
Perhaps. But we can't stay on lock-down forever.

People need to earn a living. Food has to be harvested and processed. Businesses have to get back to business. Trade has to start again.

It all might have to come down to "herd immunity."

At some point, risk or no risk, we need to get back to as normal as we can achieve under the circumstances.
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It hasn't been all bad. Grocery stores are still doing ok, and cashiers are finally getting some of the respect they deserve. Now if we can just get them a permanent pay raise, we'll have made some real progress.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Perhaps. But we can't stay on lock-down forever.

People need to earn a living. Food has to be harvested and processed. Businesses have to get back to business. Trade has to start again.

It all might have to come down to "herd immunity."

At some point, risk or no risk, we need to get back to as normal as we can achieve under the circumstances.
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If people obey the rules then yes we can achieve that. It is up to the people to do the right thing.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Perhaps. But we can't stay on lock-down forever.

People need to earn a living. Food has to be harvested and processed. Businesses have to get back to business. Trade has to start again.

It all might have to come down to "herd immunity."

At some point, risk or no risk, we need to get back to as normal as we can achieve under the circumstances.
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Food production is continuing. My son who is a QA for a major food production plant was issued a badge identifying him employed in an Essential Business to allow him to be on the road at this time.

The plant is working overtime at this point.

Yes, we need to get back to normal but for now lets trust the epidemiologists.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Perhaps. But we can't stay on lock-down forever.

People need to earn a living. Food has to be harvested and processed. Businesses have to get back to business. Trade has to start again.

It all might have to come down to "herd immunity."

At some point, risk or no risk, we need to get back to as normal as we can achieve under the circumstances.
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I agree we can't do it forever, but I think putting an artifucial timeline on it is unwise.
 
Irredentist said:
It hasn't been all bad. Grocery stores are still doing ok, and cashiers are finally getting some of the respect they deserve. Now if we can just get them a permanent pay raise, we'll have made some real progress.
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How do you think that the groceries show up on the shelves?
 
j brown's body said:
Seems like he's always the last to know.
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Hardly. Schools were scheduled to be closed through April 3. That just changed that too. But since you are so bright, well-informed and the first to know, please give me that specific date when these guidelines will expire and that date when you expect to see commerce begin again. Thanks.
 
Captain Adverse said:
It all might have to come down to "herd immunity."
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We have never once gained herd immunity without vaccinations. It would require a 96% infection rate.

I know this one of the official talking points, but it's wrong.
 
j brown's body said:
Seems like he's always the last to know.
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Exactly. We all knew (well, except for the Fox "News" crowd) that Easter was insane. No one believe that for an instant.

I'd like to hear medical experts explain at what point of the downhill slope will it be considered safe to ease restrictions. At the mid-point? At the very tail?

According to the latest model, for Washington State and the US in general, the tail is into the first of June. For Florida, mid-July.
 
Irredentist said:
In my experience they generally arrive on trucks, in massive pallets. Then people unload, unpack, and stock them.
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...and they magically appear on the trucks?
 
Rexedgar said:
How do you think that the groceries show up on the shelves?
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Everyone in the food supply industry (growers, wholesalers, transporters, retailers, etc.) are considered essential workers.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Perhaps. But we can't stay on lock-down forever.
People need to earn a living. Food has to be harvested and processed. Businesses have to get back to business. Trade has to start again.
It all might have to come down to "herd immunity."
At some point, risk or no risk, we need to get back to as normal as we can achieve under the circumstances.
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For sure. But the essential businesses are exempted from this. Non-essential businesses and their work force is being covered by the $2 trillion relief package and other bills passed by Congress.

It's hard to imagine, but we just need to freeze large parts of the economy for a month or two.

It's hard to accept, but the most heroic thing most of us can do is just stay home until we're given the all clear.
 
Rexedgar said:
Like pulling teeth.......oh, wait......
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I'm just trying to answer your questions, as someone who works at a grocery store. If you were looking for a different answer, then maybe you should ask a different question?
 
Crosscheck said:
Food production is continuing. My son who is a QA for a major food production plant was issued a badge identifying him employed in an Essential Business to allow him to be on the road at this time.
The plant is working overtime at this point.

Yes, we need to get back to normal but for now lets trust the epidemiologists.
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One of the problems we're running into is that for a long time now one of our two political parties has been at war with science.

It's just an unfortunate fact that a party that denies climate science and evolution isn't going to be hospitable to good epidemiology.
 
Irredentist said:
I'm just trying to answer your questions, as someone who works at a grocery store. If you were looking for a different answer, then maybe you should ask a different question?
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You post a simple answer that makes it appear that all it takes is for there to be stores and stockers to make groceries to appear. If you are in the business, you know that there is a whole chain of events/people that need to be on the job for the shelves to have products. Many people at risk in the chain and all it takes is a few links to not show up for there to be major disruptions......
 
Fletch said:
I think Easter was a reasonable goal when he said it and its still two weeks off. 4 more weeks of economic shutdown might be too much. 3.3 million filed for unemployment last week and that record number will likely be smashed this week. We could have 15-20 million unemployed by the end of April
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Is turd polisher still a thing?
 
Irredentist said:
It hasn't been all bad. Grocery stores are still doing ok, and cashiers are finally getting some of the respect they deserve. Now if we can just get them a permanent pay raise, we'll have made some real progress.
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