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    Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Germany should be the model for every other as to how they've handled this epidemic. Their death rate is extremely low compared to surrounding countries like Spain and Italy. The death rate in Germany is 0.72% but in Italy, where over 10,000 people have died, is 10.8 percent. In Spain, itís 8 percent.

    Here's why. In Germany, they're testing more than 120,000 people a week. Their healthcare and particularly their intensive care facilities, are some of the best in the world. Germany locked down tight, and this is possibly the biggest factor in their low mortality rate.

    [snip] Germany has also been better at protecting its older residents, who are at much greater risk. States banned visits to the elderly, and policymakers issued urgent warnings to limit contact with older people. Many seem to have quarantined themselves.[/snip]

    Opinion | Germany Has Relatively Few Deaths From Coronavirus. Why? - The New York Times

    What should the US learn from Germany? The biggest factor is locking down cities, people absolutely must avoid coming in contact with others and there shouldn't be a person out on the street or in a supermarket or Walmart without some type of mask protecting their mouth and nose.

    Our federal government should be mailing out a N95 mask to every person in the US.









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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Germany should be the model for every other as to how they've handled this epidemic. Their death rate is extremely low compared to surrounding countries like Spain and Italy. The death rate in Germany is 0.72% but in Italy, where over 10,000 people have died, is 10.8 percent. In Spain, it’s 8 percent.

    Here's why. In Germany, they're testing more than 120,000 people a week. Their healthcare and particularly their intensive care facilities, are some of the best in the world. Germany locked down tight, and this is possibly the biggest factor in their low mortality rate.

    [snip] Germany has also been better at protecting its older residents, who are at much greater risk. States banned visits to the elderly, and policymakers issued urgent warnings to limit contact with older people. Many seem to have quarantined themselves.[/snip]

    Opinion | Germany Has Relatively Few Deaths From Coronavirus. Why? - The New York Times

    What should the US learn from Germany? The biggest factor is locking down cities, people absolutely must avoid coming in contact with others and there shouldn't be a person out on the street or in a supermarket or Walmart without some type of mask protecting their mouth and nose.

    Our federal government should be mailing out a N95 mask to every person in the US.
    Yes, severe lockdown and enforced (if necessary) social distancing, is the ONLY way to slow the rate of infection.

    How the UK’s coronavirus epidemic compares to other countries - BBC News

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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Germany should be the model for every other as to how they've handled this epidemic. Their death rate is extremely low compared to surrounding countries like Spain and Italy. The death rate in Germany is 0.72% but in Italy, where over 10,000 people have died, is 10.8 percent. In Spain, it’s 8 percent.

    Here's why. In Germany, they're testing more than 120,000 people a week. Their healthcare and particularly their intensive care facilities, are some of the best in the world. Germany locked down tight, and this is possibly the biggest factor in their low mortality rate.

    [snip] Germany has also been better at protecting its older residents, who are at much greater risk. States banned visits to the elderly, and policymakers issued urgent warnings to limit contact with older people. Many seem to have quarantined themselves.[/snip]

    Opinion | Germany Has Relatively Few Deaths From Coronavirus. Why? - The New York Times

    What should the US learn from Germany? The biggest factor is locking down cities, people absolutely must avoid coming in contact with others and there shouldn't be a person out on the street or in a supermarket or Walmart without some type of mask protecting their mouth and nose.

    Our federal government should be mailing out a N95 mask to every person in the US.
    83 million vs 330 million

    impossible to "lock down" the US

    impossible to enforce social distancing in the US

    and then there's this...

    The Turkish government has cast aside a sample of Chinese-made coronavirus rapid testing kits after finding out that they gave inaccurate results, a Turkish official confirmed to Middle East Eye on Friday.

    “We have received some samples from the company,” the official said. “We didn’t find them viable and ordered some other testing kit models from a separate Chinese company.”

    The official did not say how many kits were concerned, while noting that they hadn’t yet been used with the wider public.

    The news comes as Spain revealed on Thursday that it had withdrawn 9,000 Chinese-made kits after realising that they had only 30 percent accuracy. A Czech media outlet also reported that up to 80 percent of the 150,000 portable quick tests that China delivered to the republic earlier this month were faulty.

    Spanish officials told the media that the testing kits were also manufactured by the same company that had supplied the Turkish government.

    Coronavirus: Turkey rejects Chinese testing kits over inaccurate results | Middle East Eye
    where did Germany get their test kits?

    Bottom line...what works in one country won't always work for another country.
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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    83 million vs 330 million

    impossible to "lock down" the US

    impossible to enforce social distancing in the US

    and then there's this...



    where did Germany get their test kits?

    Bottom line...what works in one country won't always work for another country.
    So try. Social distancing is the ONLY way of preventing infection.

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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    83 million vs 330 million

    impossible to "lock down" the US

    impossible to enforce social distancing in the US

    and then there's this...



    where did Germany get their test kits?

    Bottom line...what works in one country won't always work for another country.
    True, but what works to contain the virus works everywhere. That we face a more difficult task than Germany does not mean we can't learn from them.

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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    Germany should be the model for every other as to how they've handled this epidemic. Their death rate is extremely low compared to surrounding countries like Spain and Italy. The death rate in Germany is 0.72% but in Italy, where over 10,000 people have died, is 10.8 percent. In Spain, it’s 8 percent.

    Here's why. In Germany, they're testing more than 120,000 people a week. Their healthcare and particularly their intensive care facilities, are some of the best in the world. Germany locked down tight, and this is possibly the biggest factor in their low mortality rate.

    [snip] Germany has also been better at protecting its older residents, who are at much greater risk. States banned visits to the elderly, and policymakers issued urgent warnings to limit contact with older people. Many seem to have quarantined themselves.[/snip]

    Opinion | Germany Has Relatively Few Deaths From Coronavirus. Why? - The New York Times

    What should the US learn from Germany? The biggest factor is locking down cities, people absolutely must avoid coming in contact with others and there shouldn't be a person out on the street or in a supermarket or Walmart without some type of mask protecting their mouth and nose.

    Our federal government should be mailing out a N95 mask to every person in the US.
    The experts are saying they cannot tell yet why some areas seem to have a higher percentage of deaths while others don't.

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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Cole View Post
    True, but what works to contain the virus works everywhere. That we face a more difficult task than Germany does not mean we can't learn from them.
    Learn what? That social distancing works? We already know that. That locking down highly populated areas works? We already know that, too.

    These things...that we already know about...are impossible to enforce in the US.

    Heck, just look at the reaction when Trump floated the idea of locking down just a couple areas. Germany may be able to do that...the US cannot.
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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Learn what? That social distancing works? We already know that.
    No. How it's implemented. That was your point, wasn't it?

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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    83 million vs 330 million

    impossible to "lock down" the US

    impossible to enforce social distancing in the US

    and then there's this...



    where did Germany get their test kits?

    Bottom line...what works in one country won't always work for another country.
    This is a really stupid and typical conservative response. If you ever show that another country does something better, it can't be done here in the U.S. because the population is bigger. God that's so dumb. Our land mass is also more than 27 times as big. Your numbers mean nothing.
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    Re: Startling numbers from Germany -- in a good way

    I live in Germany and I'm very happy with the way its been handled so far. Every man, woman and child has access to high quality Healthcare and there's a rational adult in charge here. Ive been mostly working from home and the effects have been much less severe here than many other countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    83 million vs 330 million
    impossible to "lock down" the US
    impossible to enforce social distancing in the US
    and then there's this...
    where did Germany get their test kits?
    Bottom line...what works in one country won't always work for another country.
    You always say the stupidest things and your agenda is always transparent. The death RATE has nothing to do with net population. Your knee jerk reaction is to defend Trump's incompetence even in threads that have nothing to do with him because you know how terrible he looks right now.

    These techniques won't work in America because you nutters won't even admit there's a crisis.

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