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The good old days

Good4Nothin

Good4Nothin

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We used to be free, now we aren't. It's for a good reason, of course, to save lives. But our freedom is GONE, and we don't know when, or if, we get it back.

I never imagined this, never knew it could happen. Nothing like it happened in any of our lifetimes, in the USA. We took freedom for granted -- as long as we didn't commit a crime, the government couldn't prevent us doing what we want.

Now freedom is gone. Will we ever get it back? Or will there always be some excuse, from now on, for restricting what we can do, for our own safety?

Just wondering. I mean, I don't hear anyone complaining at all, because everyone understands it's for the good of society, and it's of critical importance.

But our freedom is GONE.
 
You don't know what you've got til it's gone...so true...
 
When you are on an airplane and you are required to NOT open the exit doors in middle of the flight, do you also complain about your freedom being gone?
 
Good4Nothin said:
We used to be free, now we aren't. It's for a good reason, of course, to save lives. But our freedom is GONE, and we don't know when, or if, we get it back.

I never imagined this, never knew it could happen. Nothing like it happened in any of our lifetimes, in the USA. We took freedom for granted -- as long as we didn't commit a crime, the government couldn't prevent us doing what we want.

Now freedom is gone. Will we ever get it back? Or will there always be some excuse, from now on, for restricting what we can do, for our own safety?

Just wondering. I mean, I don't hear anyone complaining at all, because everyone understands it's for the good of society, and it's of critical importance.

But our freedom is GONE.
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I think you are over-reacting to a temporary situation. There's no wondering "if" we will get our "freedom" back. It's just a matter of when, and that will likely be in a few months if we and our government do our part.
 
Slavister said:
When you are on an airplane and you are required to NOT open the exit doors in middle of the flight, do you also complain about your freedom being gone?
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Did I COMPLAIN?? Did I say it should be different? No, you can read it again. But we don't know how long this will go on, and it would only be natural to notice that we are NOT FREE NOW. But most people seem to not notice.
 
Chomsky said:
I think you are over-reacting to a temporary situation. There's no wondering "if" we will get our "freedom" back. It's just a matter of when, and that will likely be in a few months if we and our government do our part.
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A FEW MONTHS? How can bars and restaurants survive that long? And theaters? And anything that involves gatherings of people, or any kind of interpersonal contact. Hair dressers, massage therapists.
 
I still feel plenty free. I just don't have as many choices as I once had. I know those choices will come back very soon.
 
Good4Nothin said:
Did I COMPLAIN?? Did I say it should be different?
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Oh I am sorry, I did not realize you were rejoicing when you said

"Now freedom is gone. Will we ever get it back? Or will there always be some excuse, from now on, for restricting what we can do, for our own safety?"

Good4Nothin said:
But we don't know how long this will go on, and it would only be natural to notice that we are NOT FREE NOW. But most people seem to not notice.
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That's because vast majority of people is reasonable... I think... We'll see in November... Nah nevermind, I thought about 2016 and I take it back.
 
Good4Nothin said:
We used to be free, now we aren't. It's for a good reason, of course, to save lives. But our freedom is GONE, and we don't know when, or if, we get it back.

I never imagined this, never knew it could happen. Nothing like it happened in any of our lifetimes, in the USA. We took freedom for granted -- as long as we didn't commit a crime, the government couldn't prevent us doing what we want.

Now freedom is gone. Will we ever get it back? Or will there always be some excuse, from now on, for restricting what we can do, for our own safety?

Just wondering. I mean, I don't hear anyone complaining at all, because everyone understands it's for the good of society, and it's of critical importance.

But our freedom is GONE.
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My survival is more important than your freedom to go anywhere you want. This is not a difficult trade.
 
Good4Nothin said:
We used to be free, now we aren't. It's for a good reason, of course, to save lives. But our freedom is GONE, and we don't know when, or if, we get it back.

I never imagined this, never knew it could happen. Nothing like it happened in any of our lifetimes, in the USA. We took freedom for granted -- as long as we didn't commit a crime, the government couldn't prevent us doing what we want.

Now freedom is gone. Will we ever get it back? Or will there always be some excuse, from now on, for restricting what we can do, for our own safety?

Just wondering. I mean, I don't hear anyone complaining at all, because everyone understands it's for the good of society, and it's of critical importance.

But our freedom is GONE.
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So you must be in jail, because I went for a nice relaxing hike today and saw some beautiful sites with the family.
 
Good4Nothin said:
A FEW MONTHS? How can bars and restaurants survive that long? And theaters? And anything that involves gatherings of people, or any kind of interpersonal contact. Hair dressers, massage therapists.
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That's a different subject than "freedom"

Yes, we are having extreme economic pain that will cause many businesses to suffer or fail. But life has its price, and we are trying to balance the economy with saving lives. There is no happy sweet-spot. None at all.
 
 
Good4Nothin said:
We used to be free, now we aren't. It's for a good reason, of course, to save lives. But our freedom is GONE, and we don't know when, or if, we get it back.

I never imagined this, never knew it could happen. Nothing like it happened in any of our lifetimes, in the USA. We took freedom for granted -- as long as we didn't commit a crime, the government couldn't prevent us doing what we want.

Now freedom is gone. Will we ever get it back? Or will there always be some excuse, from now on, for restricting what we can do, for our own safety?

Just wondering. I mean, I don't hear anyone complaining at all, because everyone understands it's for the good of society, and it's of critical importance.

But our freedom is GONE.
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I think you are being a bit melodramatic. Its only been a few weeks.
 
Good4Nothin said:
We used to be free, now we aren't. It's for a good reason, of course, to save lives. But our freedom is GONE, and we don't know when, or if, we get it back.

I never imagined this, never knew it could happen. Nothing like it happened in any of our lifetimes, in the USA. We took freedom for granted -- as long as we didn't commit a crime, the government couldn't prevent us doing what we want.

Now freedom is gone. Will we ever get it back? Or will there always be some excuse, from now on, for restricting what we can do, for our own safety?

Just wondering. I mean, I don't hear anyone complaining at all, because everyone understands it's for the good of society, and it's of critical importance.

But our freedom is GONE.
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None of my freedom is gone :doh
 
Chomsky said:
I love that song! :thumbs:
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me too. i remember my dad singing a bit of that to me for fun when i was a little kid. my parents have good taste in music.

this one is probably my favorite Frank Sinatra song :

 
Phys251 said:
My survival is more important than your freedom to go anywhere you want. This is not a difficult trade.
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Did you ever hear the saying "Live free or die" ??
 
Praxas said:
So you must be in jail, because I went for a nice relaxing hike today and saw some beautiful sites with the family.
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I take long walks every day, always did. That hasn't changed. And I stay home alone and work on my projects all day, as usual. My life hasn't changed, except not being able to see friends in person.

It's fine with me. But when I THINK about the fact that we lost our freedom, I face the fact. No one else seems to.
 
Good4Nothin said:
Did you ever hear the saying "Live free or die" ??
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You wouldn't be making loose comments like that if you any idea how horrifically painful death by coronavirus can be.
 
Good4Nothin said:
I take long walks every day, always did. That hasn't changed. And I stay home alone and work on my projects all day, as usual. My life hasn't changed, except not being able to see friends in person.

It's fine with me. But when I THINK about the fact that we lost our freedom, I face the fact. No one else seems to.
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Doesn't sound like you've lost much in your "sacrifice" to keep our healthcare system from becoming overwhelmed like Italy's has.
 
Slavister said:
When you are on an airplane and you are required to NOT open the exit doors in middle of the flight, do you also complain about your freedom being gone?
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I choose to get on an airplane. I never chose to have my mayor lock down the town.
 
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