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France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

Moot said:
If doctors believed him enough to hoard and cause a shortage of the drugs....then you can hardly blame average citizens for believing him, too.

The problem with Trump is that he doesn't think before he speaks...nor does he consider the consequences of his words and often finds himself back tracking or contradicting his own advisors. In short, he causes more confusion, than not.
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Thats what people like about him. When he speaks you know hes not holding back or follwing talking points. Its not his fault that the sheep are used to politicians who pander to their ignorance and dependance on govt to tell them how to think.

People need to wake up.
 
BlueTex said:
Well, are there "two" EUA's and do they only apply to hospitalized patients?
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FDA authorizes emergency use of unapproved drugs to treat ...

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17 hours ago - The Washington Post is providing this story for free so that all readers have access to ... The FDA's emergency authorization does not cover longer-term use of the ... “It is reasonable to believe that chloroquine phosphate and ...

Unproven anti-malaria drugs are tested on thousands of ...

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5 days ago - Washington Post Live ... The FDA would not comment on any aspects of the massive New ... patients with previously approved FDA conditions and to coronavirus ... said in an interview that he was contacted by Meadows after posting ... of hydroxychloroquine and up to 750,000 doses of chloroquine are in ...
 
Moderate Right said:
In the meantime, let everyone die.
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I have said quite the opposite. I have said many times let the doctors prescribe what they may even off label use prescriptions if they feel it will work. I never said otherwise. This does not negate the need for proper data. We need to know how if and how well the stuff works.
 
Moderate Right said:
It shows promise and they are safe. What more do you need? These meds were not just cooked up in someone's back yard.
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Proper testing validates use and dosage, etcetera. It doesn't mean doctors shouldn't use it, it means they when they do they are literally experimenting on their patient. If I am desperate, I would be a guinea pig, but to be honest I would rather not. I feel most people view things similarly.
 
Chomsky said:
Exactly. Trump is acting extremely dangerously, as we saw with the AZ couple dosing themselves with fish-tank cleaner.
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OMG really Chomsky?

Hydroxychloroquine has been around for decades. It is used to treat malaria, rheumatoid arthritis, and lupus. RA and Lupus are autoimmune diseases that cause inflammation. Zpaks are prescribed often for infections in the lungs with great success. It is the inflammation in the lungs that produces the excessive fluid and you experience that akin to drowning slowly. Anyone who has had pneumonia knows the feeling.

It is the anti-inflammation properties of this drug that gets the inflammation under control. Doctors are already prescribing this cocktail and are seeing good results. I have seen several doctors interviewed say they are already prescribing it and people who had the virus that took the drugs/recovered are also speaking out.

If I were to get this virus, I would not hesitate to use the drug. Sure beats watching the body bags stack up.
 
BlueTex said:
Here is the state of Texas order from March 20th:

1 TITLE 22 EXAMINING BOARDS
2 PART 15 TEXAS STATE BOARD OF PHARMACY
3 CHAPTER 291 PHARMACIES
4 SUBCHAPTER A ALL CLASSES OF PHARMACIES
5 §291.30. Medication Limitations.
6 No prescription or medication order for chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine, mefloquine, or
7 azithromycin may be dispensed or distributed unless all the following apply:
8 (1) the prescription or medication order bears a written diagnosis from the prescriber consistent
9 with the evidence for its use;
10 (2) the prescription or medication order is limited to no more than a fourteen (14) day supply,
11 unless the patient was previously established on the medication prior to the effective date of this
12 rule; and
13 (3) no refills may be permitted unless a new prescription or medication order is furnished.

https://www.pharmacy.texas.gov/files_pdf/291.30.pdf

Why is Governor Abbott banning the use of hydroxychloroquine? Are you perhaps being mislead by your "sources"?
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He's not. Read your own link.
 
BlueTex said:
Oh, did you not actually read the FDA EUA? You aren't going to be able to run down to your pharmacy and grab a script anytime soon...
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Most of us have a prescription before running down to the pharmacy. Pharmacies fill prescriptions. Doctors write the prescriptions. Okay??????
 
vesper said:
OMG really Chomsky?

Hydroxychloroquine has been around for decades. It is used to treat malaria, rheumatoid arthritis, and lupus. RA and Lupus are autoimmune diseases that cause inflammation. Zpaks are prescribed often for infections in the lungs with great success. It is the inflammation in the lungs that produces the excessive fluid and you experience that akin to drowning slowly. Anyone who has had pneumonia knows the feeling.

It is the anti-inflammation properties of this drug that gets the inflammation under control. Doctors are already prescribing this cocktail and are seeing good results. I have seen several doctors interviewed say they are already prescribing it and people who had the virus that took the drugs/recovered are also speaking out.

If I were to get this virus, I would not hesitate to use the drug. Sure beats watching the body bags stack up.
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It makes perfect sense. Anti-viral to fight the virus and antibiotic to fight the secondary bacterial infection.
 
Mycroft said:
I have a feeling that some stupid governors will have to walk back their decisions soon. Then they'll be tap dancing and trying to find a way to blame Trump.
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What decisions? And if you say banning the drug's use, back that up as I've seen a lot of lies about that reported. Right wing hacks like that idiot at Turning Point USA calling things bans that allow exemptions for....people being treated in hospitals or clinics. The point of the not-"bans" was to prevent HOARDING that was making the drug unavailable to those using it for lupus and other diseases and for treating CV19 in actually sick people.
 
Erod said:
https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1243779158737440768?s=19

Decret ndeg 2020-314 du 25 mars 2020 completant le decret ndeg 2020-293 du 23 mars 2020 prescrivant les mesures generales necessaires pour faire face a l'epidemie de covid-19 dans le cadre de l'etat d'urgence sanitaire | Legifrance

It works. Use it.

Trump was right.
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FWIW, here's the text:

"Art. 12-2.-By derogation from article L. 5121-8 of the public health code , hydroxychloroquine and the lopinavir / ritonavir combination can be prescribed, dispensed and administered under the responsibility of a doctor to patients with by covid-19, in the health establishments which take charge of them, as well as, for the continuation of their treatment if their condition allows it and with the authorization of the initial prescriber, at home.
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So it also covers the two AIDS drugs that have also shown promise.
 
Moot said:
Trump shouldn't be telling people what remedies do or don't work....he should leave that to the doctors and stop playing one himself.
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The President was repeating the recommendations of a Group of French Virologists, who are recognized as best Doctors in this area of medicine on planet earth.
 
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Chomsky said:
Exactly. Trump is acting extremely dangerously, as we saw with the AZ couple dosing themselves with fish-tank cleaner.
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Well like with the fish tank people it looks like you missed the part where The President said "under the Doctor supervision".
 
Chomsky said:
Bingo.

We need data of the drug's efficacy. But even more importantly, we need to know its safety in coronovirus-compromised individuals. Medicine, safe medicine, is not so easy as some here seem to imply.
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Recommended by a of a Group of French Virologists, who are recognized as best planet earth in this area. A Drug that has been around so log and is so well tested that when given under a doctors supervision there is pretty much 0% risk.
 
Moderate Right said:
Trump listened to those who said that these drugs worked. Just can't admit that Trump was right, can you? You would rather see many people die than listen to Trump.
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But people did die because they listened to Trump.
 
jonny5 said:
Thats what people like about him. When he speaks you know hes not holding back or follwing talking points. Its not his fault that the sheep are used to politicians who pander to their ignorance and dependance on govt to tell them how to think.

People need to wake up.
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Nah, people only like him because other people don't. Those are the people that need to wake up.
 
Casca XV said:
The President was repeating the recommendations of a Group of French Virologists, who are recognized as best Doctors in this area of medicine on planet earth.
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That doesn't make what he did, right. Two people died because they listened to him.
 
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