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France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

Nope. Supporters of Trump are no more cultists than are supporters of anyone else.

Riiiiiight....

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there are some side effects that are very concerning...especially if the person has any mood disorders.


That's probably everybody these days ... ;)
 
My are you attempting to blame Trump for an extreme moron and his wife drinking a chemical meant for fish aquariums? No logic in that.
I'm blaming him for being reckless & irresponsible with his words.
 
I'm blaming him for being reckless & irresponsible with his words.

Sorry, but that's pretty myopic. Those words catalyzed clinical trials in a lot of places, and a massive one in New York. The Washington Post reported it would not be under way without Trump's push. And one guy won a Darwin Award; his fault, not Trump's.
 
Exactly. Trump is acting extremely dangerously, as we saw with the AZ couple dosing themselves with fish-tank cleaner.

Trump took a few questions today that I cringed at... thinking, Dude, you really need to let your Doctor's answer that.
 
IOW...Trump gave the idea to the idiot and now he's dead.

No, he didn't. If he told you that you should drink more water, are you going to blame him because you drank liquid bleach?
 
I have a feeling that some stupid governors will have to walk back their decisions soon. Then they'll be tap dancing and trying to find a way to blame Trump.

This news clearly demonstrates that Democrat governors who have forbidden this treatment have ulterior motives. It is obvious
that their reason for stopping this cure in their States is just too spite Trump even if their people die.
Witless Whitmer outlawed it based on one thing, Trump said it looks promising. TDS at it's worst.

The governors of Michigan and Nevada ridiculously practicing medicine without a license should be
subjected to ridicule & I for one am glad to see it's happening now.
 
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This news clearly demonstrates that Democrat governors who have forbidden this treatment have ulterior motives. It is obvious
that their reason for stopping this cure in their States is just too spite Trump even if their people die.
Witless Whitmer outlawed it based on one thing, Trump said it looks promising. TDS at it's worst.

What exactly does Whitmer’s order state about this drug?


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What exactly does Whitmer’s order state about this drug?


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Gretchen Whitmer banned doctors from prescribing the lifesaving drugs hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks to save senior citizens in the state.
Hydroxychloroquine is safe and in at least three international tests was found 100% effective in treating the coronavirus.
Whitmer’s Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs literally threatened all doctors and pharmacists in the state who prescribe or dispense hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, warning physicians and pharmacists of professional consequences for the prescribing of hydroxychloroquine (and chloroquine).
 
Gretchen Whitmer banned doctors from prescribing the lifesaving drugs hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks to save senior citizens in the state.
Hydroxychloroquine is safe and in at least three international tests was found 100% effective in treating the coronavirus.
Whitmer’s Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs literally threatened all doctors and pharmacists in the state who prescribe or dispense hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, warning physicians and pharmacists of professional consequences for the prescribing of hydroxychloroquine (and chloroquine).


This is so crazy dumb
 
Gretchen Whitmer banned doctors from prescribing the lifesaving drugs hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks to save senior citizens in the state.
Hydroxychloroquine is safe and in at least three international tests was found 100% effective in treating the coronavirus.
Whitmer’s Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs literally threatened all doctors and pharmacists in the state who prescribe or dispense hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19, warning physicians and pharmacists of professional consequences for the prescribing of hydroxychloroquine (and chloroquine).

The combination of hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks has not been proven to "100% effective" at anything other than drawing out idiots who will latch on to propaganda.

Here is the letter from the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs...

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/...cribing_and_Dispensing_3-24-2020_684869_7.pdf

Dear Licensed Prescribers and Dispensers:

The Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs has received multiple allegations of
Michigan physicians inappropriately prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to
themselves, family, friends, and/or coworkers without a legitimate medical purpose.

Prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine without further proof of efficacy for treating
COVID-19 or with the intent to stockpile the drug may create a shortage for patients with lupus,
rheumatoid arthritis, or other ailments for which chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are proven
treatments. Reports of this conduct will be evaluated and may be further investigated for
administrative action. Prescribing any kind of prescription must also be associated with medical
documentation showing proof of the medical necessity and medical condition for which the
patient is being treated. Again, these are drugs that have not been proven scientifically or
medically to treat COVID-19.

Michigan pharmacists may see an increased volume of prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine
and chloroquine and should take special care to evaluate the prescriptions’ legitimacy. Pursuant
to Michigan Administrative Code, R 338.490(2), a pharmacist shall not fill a prescription if the
pharmacist believes the prescription will be used for other than legitimate medical purposes or if
the prescription could cause harm to a patient.

It is also important to be mindful that licensed health professionals are required to report
inappropriate prescribing practices. LARA appreciates all licensed health professionals for their
service and cooperation in assuring compliance in acting responsibly while continuing to provide
the best possible care for Michigan’s citizens during this unprecedented and very challenging
time.



Tell us, which part of the "threat" do you disagree with?
 
The combination of hydroxychloroquine and Z-Paks has not been proven to "100% effective" at anything other than drawing out idiots who will latch on to propaganda.

Here is the letter from the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs...

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/...cribing_and_Dispensing_3-24-2020_684869_7.pdf

Dear Licensed Prescribers and Dispensers:

The Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs has received multiple allegations of
Michigan physicians inappropriately prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine to
themselves, family, friends, and/or coworkers without a legitimate medical purpose.

Prescribing hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine without further proof of efficacy for treating
COVID-19 or with the intent to stockpile the drug may create a shortage for patients with lupus,
rheumatoid arthritis, or other ailments for which chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are proven
treatments. Reports of this conduct will be evaluated and may be further investigated for
administrative action. Prescribing any kind of prescription must also be associated with medical
documentation showing proof of the medical necessity and medical condition for which the
patient is being treated. Again, these are drugs that have not been proven scientifically or
medically to treat COVID-19.

Michigan pharmacists may see an increased volume of prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine
and chloroquine and should take special care to evaluate the prescriptions’ legitimacy. Pursuant
to Michigan Administrative Code, R 338.490(2), a pharmacist shall not fill a prescription if the
pharmacist believes the prescription will be used for other than legitimate medical purposes or if
the prescription could cause harm to a patient.

It is also important to be mindful that licensed health professionals are required to report
inappropriate prescribing practices. LARA appreciates all licensed health professionals for their
service and cooperation in assuring compliance in acting responsibly while continuing to provide
the best possible care for Michigan’s citizens during this unprecedented and very challenging
time.



Tell us, which part of the "threat" do you disagree with?

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3 hours ago - "Scientists in America and around the world have identified multiple potential therapeutics for COVID19, including chloroquine and ...
 
Life expectancy in this country doubled from 1900 to 2000 because of government efforts to protect us from nature.

Prove it. Prove that it wasnt technology and cultural changes created by private individuals. Good luck.
 
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3 hours ago - "Scientists in America and around the world have identified multiple potential therapeutics for COVID19, including chloroquine and ...

Did you read the criteria for this EUA?

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Just some highlights...

- Must be hospitalized
- Oral administration only (that's going to be interesting with intubated patients)
- 50kg or greater
- Informed consent of patient
- Clinical trial is not available, or participation is not feasible.
 
Did you read the criteria for this EUA?

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Just some highlights...

- Must be hospitalized
- Oral administration only (that's going to be interesting with intubated patients)
- 50kg or greater
- Informed consent of patient
- Clinical trial is not available, or participation is not feasible.

Yes. Low hurdles. What you are going to see now is very widespread use.
 

Even if Trump was 100% correct, guesswork is no basis for managing a crisis.

The reason you have an internet, a computer, air conditioning, radio, antibiotics, vaccines, cars, aircraft etc is not because a Dufus took a guess but because painstaking investigations, experimentation, testing, prototyping and so on were diligently performed by experts in these fields.

If you really believe that a Dufus billionaire, foul mouthed, glorified landlord brat making wild guesses is a way to advance society then look at the last time that happened - Hitler ended up destroying his country.
 
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