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France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

There was no ban...

The governor’s order prohibits the prescribing and dispensing chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for a COVID-19 diagnosis, requires the appropriate prescription coding for their “legitimate medical purposes” and limits prescriptions to a 30-day supply.

The order doesn’t limit use of the drugs in hospitals, only in outpatient settings where hoarding is evident, the governor’s office stressed. Doctors may continue to prescribe them to hospitalized COVID-19 patients at their discretion.

“At this point in time, there is no known cure for COVID-19 and we must not withhold these drugs from those who need them,” the governor said in a statement. “The best way to prevent the spread of COVID-19 is to stay home for Nevada, not to stockpile these drugs.”


Sisolak signs order to protect chloroquine supply | Las Vegas Review-Journal

And NONE of this would be necessary if Trump hadn't opened his mouth in front of Americans. It has turned into a big mess as does everything Trump involves himself in.

Just STFU and let the doctors handle it.
 
And also routinely support him. Fauci has complimented Trump's handling of the situation.

Of course he did....he doesn't want to get slandered on Twitter and lose his job.
 
It was a bit more than that....Trump pushed the drugs claiming they were a "game changer".....and a few people self medicated on his recommendation.


He didn't 'push the drugs' - or tell anyone to take them. He did say that it looks to be a 'game changer' and that health officials were investigating their use. Talk of the drug started before Trump's statement, with reports of the effectiveness in South Korea.

A couple did a fish tank treatment, but trying to blame that stupidity on Trump is silly.
 
He doesn't look orange to me...

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Green is the new shade of Orange
 

No, he wasnt.

What does the evidence show?
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The French study followed work by Chinese researchers which suggested that hydroxychloroquine can slow infections from Sars-CoV-2, the virus behind Covid-19, by blocking it from entering cells in the body. But more recent, albeit small-scale, research from China has shown that patients who were treated with the drugs fought off coronavirus no more quickly than those who didn’t get it. Indeed, one patient given hydroxychloroquine severely worsened in condition while four patients on the medicine developed signs of liver damage and experienced diarrhea.

Regardless of these findings, any drug being used for a certain purpose before full clinical trials are completed is, by definition, untested and unproven. It’s too early to say if hydroxychloroquine can have a major benefit or not.
 
He didn't 'push the drugs' - or tell anyone to take them. He did say that it looks to be a 'game changer' and that health officials were investigating their use. Talk of the drug started before Trump's statement, with reports of the effectiveness in South Korea.

A couple did a fish tank treatment, but trying to blame that stupidity on Trump is silly.

US health officials aren't investigating their use....

Hydroxychloroquine: Trump says this drug has 'tremendous promise,' but Fauci's not spending money on it - CNN


Trump is a snake oil salesman nonpareil. Why so shocked that he's <sniff> pushing drugs? <sniff>
 
Great idea! Wait while bureaucrats dot their "I"s and cross their "t's while patients sicken to the point they have to be hospitalized and THEN give a drug they could have been talking days or weeks earlier.

You are starting to sound panicked and hysterical... And those patients that have proven need for the drug that are not COVID19 patients can just fend for themselves?
 
People shouldnt be worshiping celebrities/politicians or treating the President like he is in charge. Take responsibility for your own life. Trump is just a guy we elected to enforce the laws that congress makes, and hes entitled to his opinion. He is not in charge of your life or your health. The federal govt is not responsible for defending you from nature.

Well, I sure hope you're taking your own advice and isolating yourself....otherwise, you could be responsible for unwittingly spreading it.

Thanks to modern science, hundreds of millions of people have been able to protect themselves from nature. IE: small pox, polio, measles, ebola, etc.. So I still have a bit of hope that federal government will do the right thing and help find and distribute a vaccine asap.

The federal government is not only responsible for protecting and defending 'we the people' from all foreign enemies, both seen and unseen...but the public expects it. That's what they pay taxes for. So I think it's fair to say that the federal government should've been more prepared for a pandemic. It's not like they weren't forewarned.

The government has the authority, funding and ability to plan and organize a national emergency response, enforce a quarantine, inform people how to stay safe, afford to fund emergency medical research, set medical/drug/quarantine standards, mass distribution of food/medicines/vaccines where it's most needed. It can also force private businesses to make medical equipment and drugs for emergency use...regulate purchases to prevent hoarding....pay unemployment and salaries during a quarantine...give small businesses grants and loans to stay viable. It can also waive medical costs to treat patients so they don't go bankrupt if they survive...

There's a lot of things the government can do that individuals can't do alone. Perhaps, you just didn't think it through.
 
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You are starting to sound panicked and hysterical... And those patients that have proven need for the drug that are not COVID19 patients can just fend for themselves?
"panicked and hysterical"? Not even close. Just complaining about arbitrary stupidity. If the drug isn't approve for the disease how can ANYONE by PROVEN to need it?
 
"panicked and hysterical"? Not even close. Just complaining about arbitrary stupidity. If the drug isn't approve for the disease how can ANYONE by PROVEN to need it?

You do realize the only reason the drug is available is because it's been proven to treat other diseases.. Correct? That's why pharmacies stock it today... It's almost like you have no idea why this drug is even in pharmacies and just panicking and hysterical to try anything...
 
Everybody, lets do aquarium shots to support Tweety!

Yee haw
 

You are supplying information that is incorrect. You are depending on FOX news to deliver correct information but then did not follow up research to see its veracity and truthfulness.

Here is information you and all the readers need to read. If anyone dies because of reading your POST, you could held abetting a crime/

On March 18th, on Fox News, Tucker Carlson opened a three-minute segment about the study by saying, of the United States, “This is a country of science.” He then introduced a lawyer, Gregory Rigano, whom he identified as an adviser to Stanford University’s medical school. Rigano had self-published a white paper about chloroquine, on Google Docs; his connection to the French research was otherwise unclear. He was appearing remotely, wearing a suit and sitting in front of a cold fireplace. When Carlson asked him why he thought the study was important, Rigano responded, “The President has the authority to authorize the use of hydroxychloroquine against coronavirus immediately. He has cut more red tape at the F.D.A. than any other President in history.”

Charlie Kirk, the founder of the conservative nonprofit Turning Point USA, tweeted the segment, exhorting his nearly two million followers to “RT If President @realDonaldTrump should immediately move to make this available.” Most media outlets, though, quickly challenged the credibility of Rigano and that of his white paper’s co-author, James Todaro, a cryptocurrency investor who has tweeted about having a medical degree from Columbia. HuffPost called them “hucksters.” Joan Donovan, who studies “media manipulation and disinformation campaigns” at the Shorenstein Center, at the Harvard Kennedy School, called them “bitcoin entrepreneurs” and pointed out that “neither do research on viruses.” She wrote, “This is dangerous because people are now tweeting about trying to get their doctors to prescribe anti-malaria drugs. Worse, thousands of people think they can cure coronavirus by drinking tonic water.” (Tonic water contains quinine.) Stanford Health Care posted an “important notice” on its Web site: “A widely circulating Google document claiming to have identified a potential treatment for covid-19 in consultation with Stanford’s School of Medicine is not legitimate.”
 
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You are supplying information that is incorrect. You are depending on FOX news to deliver correct information but then did not follow up research to see its veracity and truthfulness.

Here is information you and all the readers need to read. If anyone dies because of reading your POST, you could held abetting a crime/

Rudy is pushing this HARD on twitter...

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani

S**t is starting to get real and the panic is finally setting in amongst Trump supporters...
 
Trump shouldn't be telling people what remedies do or don't work....he should leave that to the doctors and stop playing one himself.

Ummmmm,,,, he had already consulted with doctors before insisting that the FDA get off their duffs and approve it.
 
Exactly. Trump is acting extremely dangerously, as we saw with the AZ couple dosing themselves with fish-tank cleaner.

You can't fix stoopid.
 
You do realize the only reason the drug is available is because it's been proven to treat other diseases.. Correct? That's why pharmacies stock it today... It's almost like you have no idea why this drug is even in pharmacies and just panicking and hysterical to try anything...
Uh, yeah, I know that, and have for quite a while. That's never been the point. Again, no panicking or hysteria. Not sure how you even come up with that ****. Using it for COVID19 would be an "off label" use; a practice that is fairly common. Point continues to be if a MD can prescribe it in a hospital setting, why should DR's in private practice be not only banned but liable for punishment for doing the same?
 
Bingo.

We need data of the drug's efficacy. But even more importantly, we need to know its safety in coronovirus-compromised individuals. Medicine, safe medicine, is not so easy as some here seem to imply.

Translated: Let's hope it doesn't work so Trump won't get credit.
 
We know this and there could be issues. If it works, Trump deserves a Nobel prize. If it doesn't, no harm, no foul.

Issues like people dying from the treatment? No harm, no foul? Any other experiments you suggest we run on patients?
 
Issues like people dying from the treatment? No harm, no foul? Any other experiments you suggest we run on patients?

Haven't heard of any. Have you? Wanna wait a year for blind studies and other testing?
 
Haven't heard of any. Have you? Wanna wait a year for blind studies and other testing?

Do you not pause for minute and think, if this was such a miracle cure, why are thousands of doctors not recommending this immediately instead of quacks and politicians (often not much difference between the two)?
 
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