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    Re: France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    More posting stupidity.
    Fascinating.
    Calling a post "stupid" is not imo a reasonable or even a valid refute, but thanks anyway for the response!!

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    Re: France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    If you read YOUR article, it mentions two studies that are spinning up now, at three medical schools. They haven't had federal funding approved yet, but that's probably expected giving how fast things are moving.

    Again - The drug DOES show promise, and has shown good results in South Korea and other countries. It was being discussed as a potential treatment well before Trump brought it up. Look at the death rate by country, and where South Korea stands... they are giving a combination of hydrochloroquine and zinc, and attributed this to reducing the number of deaths. Researchers ARE looking into the potential for the drug to reduce viral load.
    The NIH has the funding, but they're not funding clinical trials for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine...and this is why...


    "...Researchers credit the advanced stages of the remdesivir and sarimulab trials to the fact that pharmaceutical companies have exclusive rights to these drugs and have an incentive to get studies moving.

    Hydroxychloroquine, on the other hand, is an inexpensive generic drug made by several companies, so no one company stands to make much money off it.

    "There are financial drivers in this system," said Dr. Kevin Tracey, president of the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research at Northwell. "I think that's just the reality, frankly." ..."


    I guess you didn't read the article after all.
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    Re: France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    Do you not pause for minute and think, if this was such a miracle cure, why are thousands of doctors not recommending this immediately instead of quacks and politicians (often not much difference between the two)?
    Real doctors are studying it, and using it on real patients. It's not a miracle cure, but has been shown to reduce the viral load, buying time for the patient's immune system to fight the disease. That's why the President mentioned the drug as a potential treatment.

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    I will never believe that ANY POLITICIAN is right about ANYTHING medical unless they have a MEDICAL DEGREE.
    Even if a study proves that something THEY HEARD was right, it doesn't mean that THEY were right, it means that they overheard people talking.
    Overhearing people talking carries dangerous potential consequences, therefore it is IMPOSSIBLE for an unqualified politician with no medical degree to BE RIGHT about something.
    If they want to take on personal private financial responsibility for 100% PERCENT of ALL NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES that might arise from their recommendation and back it up with an escrow account that is not under their control, PAYABLE to victims who listened to their phony-assed quackery, then fine...let them play doctor or scientist all they like.

    Trump is not right, DOCTORS and SCIENTISTS are right, Trump just has a big mouth and no intellect or training.
    And I would say the same thing about Obama, Clinton, Carter, Johnson or Kennedy if they pulled a stunt like that, except....

    THEY WOULDN'T.
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    Re: France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The NIH has the funding, but they're not funding clinical trials for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine...and this is why...


    "...Researchers credit the advanced stages of the remdesivir and sarimulab trials to the fact that pharmaceutical companies have exclusive rights to these drugs and have an incentive to get studies moving.

    Hydroxychloroquine, on the other hand, is an inexpensive generic drug made by several companies, so no one company stands to make much money off it.

    "There are financial drivers in this system," said Dr. Kevin Tracey, president of the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research at Northwell. "I think that's just the reality, frankly." ..."


    I guess you didn't read the article after all.
    That's a reason that drug companies may not want to experiment, but many others do have incentive, and are launching studies. Seriously, given how quickly the virus has developed, are you surprised that funding grants, often established years in advance, aren't in place?

    And FYI - that's another tangent, and attempt at deflection. But you keep trying.

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    Re: France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The NIH has the funding, but they're not funding clinical trials for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine...and this is why...


    "...Researchers credit the advanced stages of the remdesivir and sarimulab trials to the fact that pharmaceutical companies have exclusive rights to these drugs and have an incentive to get studies moving.

    Hydroxychloroquine, on the other hand, is an inexpensive generic drug made by several companies, so no one company stands to make much money off it.

    "There are financial drivers in this system," said Dr. Kevin Tracey, president of the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research at Northwell. "I think that's just the reality, frankly." ..."


    I guess you didn't read the article after all.
    To be fair to Gilead.. they did relinquish orphan drug status for remdesivir..


    Gilead Withdraws Request for Special Orphan Status on Experimental Coronavirus Treatment - The New York Times


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    Re: France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

    Quote Originally Posted by dcsports View Post
    Real doctors are studying it, and using it on real patients. It's not a miracle cure, but has been shown to reduce the viral load, buying time for the patient's immune system to fight the disease. That's why the President mentioned the drug as a potential treatment.
    In the US real doctors are using it in real clinical trials on real patients....


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    Re: France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The NIH has the funding, but they're not funding clinical trials for hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine...and this is why...


    "...Researchers credit the advanced stages of the remdesivir and sarimulab trials to the fact that pharmaceutical companies have exclusive rights to these drugs and have an incentive to get studies moving.

    Hydroxychloroquine, on the other hand, is an inexpensive generic drug made by several companies, so no one company stands to make much money off it.

    "There are financial drivers in this system," said Dr. Kevin Tracey, president of the Feinstein Institutes for Medical Research at Northwell. "I think that's just the reality, frankly." ..."


    I guess you didn't read the article after all.
    I would like to think that a fix for this virus would not be predicated on money. i hope we are too quick to blame a lag on financial interests. Nevertheless, thank you for the information!!

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    Re: France reverses ban on hydroxychloroquine: it's working

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueTex View Post
    Approved for the treatment of COVID19... Would use this to treat a common cold?


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    Back tracking and diverting. Who was talking about a common cold. This is used on people’s with serious issues.
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