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[W:386]The President Is Trapped

CaughtInThe said:
remember all the old Westerns where the hero always stood up and took responsibility because that was the honorable and manly thing to do?



yeah. that's not where we are now.
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It doesn't have to be like this. ^^^

Knock off the crazy partisanship and wish our country well for a change.
It's good to pull together as Americans at a time like this.
 
nota bene said:
Find even one post in which I have "kissed up." Just one. And in case this proves impossible, which it will, find even one in which I have praised him. Just one.

What I object to is the irrational hatred of the man. I don't think he's likeable, and I was horrified when he won the nomination. But those who hate him are unwilling, even grudgingly, to credit him for anything. Ever. And that's what I'm sick of.

Okay, and I'm also sick of the daily two-minute hate threads and crap like calling him "twump." It's just so infantile.

And that's right--I never called former President Obama a derogatory name or Hillary Clinton either. That's where I'm coming from. Too bad that those who are hyper-partisan themselves project that onto others. When you are unwilling to give Trump (or any other President, for that matter) credit for anything, YOU are in the wrong.
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Find one post in which we all hate Trump.

Your problem is that you can’t comprehend that there are legit reasons to not like his presidency and leadership. That’s exactly what the OP is about. He is a bad person to lead us through this crisis, and all you have to say is that he isn’t likable. Seriously, if you want a rational discussion about his personality and why he is a bad leader, start over, and reread the OP. Because all you do is come off partisan yourself, so don’t lecture anybody
 
SCrider said:
So his 10,000 plus lies don't register in your mind at all?
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Idiotic

You liberal bozos, ignore all of the goofy garbage and *gasp!* LIES your mentally deranged presidents tell regularly, THEN rant endlessly saying that every word out of Trumps mouth is a lie.

Coming from the grand masters of liars - liberals - we'll take that with the 'grain of salt' so often prescribed for tellers of tall tales ; )
 
Puigb said:
So Republicans like Romney and the late McCain, and the Bush family, and everyone else who isn't a Trump toadie hates him because they never imagined a time where Obama was no longer president?

Yeah, go with that.
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It's not about those three examples hating Trump. In Romney's case, it's pure envy that Trump accomplished what he could not and then turned him down for the state dept position he begged for. As for McCain, he was a toadie long before Trump ever imagined running for president. McCain has been a RINO his entire career, who reveled in going against his own party. As for the Bush family, other then the fact that they were establishment politicians, and Jeb was far too moderate, I have nothing against them. I respect GW Bush and the late elder Bush.
 
Bok_Tukalo said:
You are complaining about infantile name calling in defense of Trump?
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Exactly. She said Trump isn’t likable, but she is outraged by the disrespect he is shown.
 
SheWolf said:
Exactly. She said Trump isn’t likable, but she is outraged by the disrespect he is shown.
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Exactly what has he done to deserve respect? Certainly not refrain from infantile name calling.
 
captaintrips said:
Idiotic

You liberal bozos, ignore all of the goofy garbage and *gasp!* LIES your mentally deranged presidents tell regularly, THEN rant endlessly saying that every word out of Trumps mouth is a lie.

Coming from the grand masters of liars - liberals - we'll take that with the 'grain of salt' so often prescribed for tellers of tall tales ; )
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And yet you support the very man who isn't capable of telling the truth. Irony.
 
captaintrips said:
Idiotic

You liberal bozos, ignore all of the goofy garbage and *gasp!* LIES your mentally deranged presidents tell regularly, THEN rant endlessly saying that every word out of Trumps mouth is a lie.

Coming from the grand masters of liars - liberals - we'll take that with the 'grain of salt' so often prescribed for tellers of tall tales ; )
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Yep, that answered that question about your "Mind".......
 
Moot said:
Funny how Trump called the virus a hoax.

Funny how Trump refuses to help the hospitals screaming for federal help.

Funny how Trump only helps Governors that bend over and kiss his ring.

Funny how Trump pretends to be a doctor and prescribes drugs on TV and Twitter.

Funny how Trump tells real doctors on the front line that they don't need that many ventilators because they cost too much.
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Liberals are Liars

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Top 10 Lies About President Trump’s Response to the Coronavirus

disinformation about the government’s response to the coronavirus has spread. Democrats and the mainstream media have willingly spread false information

[ That's what liberals do ]

Many of these lies were quickly debunked, but that hasn’t stopped the false information from being repeated over and over

The left hopes these lies will continue to spread

[ Lying Liberals endlessly repeat the Lies ]

top ten lies that have been spread about Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic.

10. Trump downplayed the mortality rate of the coronavirus

In early March, the World Health Organization said that 3.4 percent of coronavirus patients had died from the disease. “Globally, about 3.4% of reported COVID-19 (the disease spread by the virus) cases have died,” WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said at a briefing. “By comparison, seasonal flu generally kills far fewer than 1% of those infected.”

Trump said this number was false, as the mortality rate was actually much less because their number didn’t take into account unreported cases. In an interview with Sean Hannity on March 4, Trump challenged WHO’s number. “Well, I think the 3.4% is really a false number,” Trump said, asserting that the actual mortality rate is “way under 1 percent.”

And Trump was right. He wasn’t downplaying the mortality rate, as has been suggested. As testing in the United States has increased, the mortality rate has decreased. The same is true worldwide.

Yet, there were so-called experts who greatly overestimated the mortality rate in order to spark fear and panic.

9. Trump lied when he said Google was developing a national coronavirus website

President Trump declared the coronavirus a national emergency, he announced that Google was developing a website to direct people to coronavirus testing locations nationwide.

"I want to thank Google. Google is helping to develop a website, it’s going to be very quickly done, unlike websites of the past, to determine whether a test is warranted and to facilitate testing at a nearby convenient location," Trump said during a press conference.

Google confirmed this in a tweet after Trump’s remarks, but the media seemed intent on calling Trump’s claim false.

8. Trump "dissolved" the WH pandemic response office

Washington Post ran an opinion piece by Elizabeth Cameron, who ran the White House pandemic office under Obama, alleging that Trump had dissolved the office in 2018. She claimed because of this, “the federal government’s slow response to the coronavirus isn’t a surprise.”

This claim spread like wildfire, even though it was completely false.

7. Trump ignored early intel briefings on possible pandemic

Washington Post again was the source of another bogus claim when they reported that intelligence agencies warned about a possible pandemic back in January and February and that Trump “failed to take action that might have slowed the spread of the pathogen.”

It was fake news.

6. Trump cut funding to the CDC & NIH

Joe Biden and Mike Bloomberg (who hadn’t dropped out of the Democratic primary yet) accused President Trump of cutting funding to critical health agencies during a primary debate. “There’s nobody here to figure out what the hell we should be doing. And he’s defunded — he’s defunded Centers for Disease Control, CDC, so we don’t have the organization we need. This is a very serious thing," Bloomberg claimed.

The Obama-Biden administration "increased the budget of the CDC. We increased the NIH budget. ... He’s wiped all that out. ... He cut the funding for the entire effort," Biden claimed.

They were both wrong.

The Top 10 Lies About President Trump’s Response to the Coronavirus
 
trixare4kids said:
It doesn't have to be like this. ^^^

Knock off the crazy partisanship and wish our country well for a change.
It's good to pull together as Americans at a time like this.
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text that to our Prez. he's constantly trashing people and you support him like no other.
 
Moot said:
...Funny how Trump keeps getting contradicted by Dr. Fausi on the seriousness of the virus.

Funny how Trump refused to get tested and still went out shaking hands.

Funny how Trump wants people to go back to work at the peak of the virus outbreak when all the experts are telling people to stay home.

Funny how Trump first praised China handling of the coronavirus and then trolled them calling it the "China virus".

Funny how Trump cares more about the economy than saving human lives.

Funny how Trump gives a press conference everyday now that he can't hold rallies...when for three years he hardly held any press conferences at all.

Funny how Trump attacks the press and makes this crisis about himself.

Funny how Trump never takes personal responsibility and blames everyone else.
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Pt 2

5. Trump "muzzled" Dr. Fauci

New York Times claimed that the Trump administration had “muzzled” Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), by preventing him from speaking publicly about the coronavirus without approval from the administration. It wasn’t true.

4. Trump didn’t act quickly and isn’t doing enough

If you listen to Democrats, Trump didn’t act quickly enough and is botching the government response. Dr. Ronny Jackson, who served as White House physician from 2013 to 2018 - "The president has done everything he needed to do in this case," he said. "He’s acted quickly and decisively. He did what he always has done ... he went with his instincts."

Jackson added, "What’s going on in Italy and Iran is not going to happen here I think, because of the president's quick and decisive actions. I think we are going to be more in line with what’s going on in South Korea and things of that nature.”

3. Trump told governors they were “on their own”

New York Times editorial board member Mara Gay claimed that during a conference call with governors about the coronavirus pandemic, President Trump told them they were “on their own” in getting the equipment they need.

She lied.

2. Trump turned down testing kits from WHO

A Politico hit piece from early March claimed that the World Health Organization offered the United States coronavirus testing kits, but Trump refused to accept them. It wasn’t true.

1. Trump called the coronavirus “a hoax”

To this day the left (and the media) claim Trump called the coronavirus a hoax. He said no such thing.

The Top 10 Lies About President Trump’s Response to the Coronavirus


On and on lying Liberals go

Lie and Lie and Lie some more

See where it gets you Liberal Liars, see where it gets you

Enjoy : )
 
ObamacareFail said:
It's not about those three examples hating Trump. In Romney's case, it's pure envy that Trump accomplished what he could not and then turned him down for the state dept position he begged for. As for McCain, he was a toadie long before Trump ever imagined running for president. McCain has been a RINO his entire career, who reveled in going against his own party. As for the Bush family, other then the fact that they were establishment politicians, and Jeb was far too moderate, I have nothing against them. I respect GW Bush and the late elder Bush.
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George Herbert Walker Bush, the greatest president of my lifetime and the greatest one-term president outside of James K. Polk, is the exact opposite of Trump.
 
Lutherf said:
Either Hillary of Jeb would have been a an Obama equivalent. Kasich would have been an Obama equivalent. You may have heard some of us use the term "establishment government". That term refers to a member of the permanent political class who is generally considered to be a safe bet to continue the status quo and seek, in nearly every action, to expand the role of the federal government.
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The amusing aspect is that the left still does not understand what hit them in 2016. In their minds it's all about "orange man bad" and "orange man supporters are mindless cultists". They simply do not understand what Trump tapped into or how many Trump voters previously voted for Obama.
 
SheWolf said:
Find one post in which we all hate Trump.

Your problem is that you can’t comprehend that there are legit reasons to not like his presidency and leadership. That’s exactly what the OP is about. He is a bad person to lead us through this crisis, and all you have to say is that he isn’t likable. Seriously, if you want a rational discussion about his personality and why he is a bad leader, start over, and reread the OP. Because all you do is come off partisan yourself, so don’t lecture anybody
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She didn't lecture. She said she is tired of the irrational hate, like that which is expressed by the O/P's crazy opinion piece. FYI, according to a recent Gallup poll, 60% of Americans, which includes Independents and 25% of Democrats think he is handling the crisis well. That does not make him a "bad person".

Have any of you ever given Trump credit for anything? If not, yours, the collective, who won't give him credit for anything, possess irrational hate, and are grossly incapable of rational discussion.

And please do not respond. I tire of dealing with your mean, partisan rants, and sophomoric lectures.
 
SCrider said:
Yep, that answered that question about your "Mind".......
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Glad I could help ; )

My mind is fine, not poisoned by hate or made ill by the lies spread so far & wide by liberals.
 
ObamacareFail said:
The amusing aspect is that the left still does not understand what hit them in 2016. In their minds it's all about "orange man bad" and "orange man supporters are mindless cultists". They simply do not understand what Trump tapped into or how many Trump voters previously voted for Obama.
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This has made them absolutely insane too.

So irrational & ridiculous, one might be tempted to feel sorry for them.

BUT we have to remember what the results of the nasty ideas they're selling us will be.

They HAVE to be rejected. Their lies called out, their false accusations given no merit and beaten by truth.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The President Is Trapped

Trump is utterly unsuited to deal with this crisis, either intellectually or temperamentally.

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We know two things for certain. The C-19 pandemic in the US will worsen, and Trump will do everything in his power to kneecap our way forward.
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You may want to turn on your TV.
 
captaintrips said:
Glad I could help ; )

My mind is fine, not poisoned by hate or made ill by the lies spread so far & wide by liberals.
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Sure it is.... except of your irrational fear of liberals...
 
nota bene said:
Find even one post in which I have "kissed up." Just one. And in case this proves impossible, which it will, find even one in which I have praised him. Just one.

What I object to is the irrational hatred of the man. I don't think he's likeable, and I was horrified when he won the nomination. But those who hate him are unwilling, even grudgingly, to credit him for anything. Ever. And that's what I'm sick of.

Okay, and I'm also sick of the daily two-minute hate threads and crap like calling him "twump." It's just so infantile.

And that's right--I never called former President Obama a derogatory name or Hillary Clinton either. That's where I'm coming from. Too bad that those who are hyper-partisan themselves project that onto others. When you are unwilling to give Trump (or any other President, for that matter) credit for anything, YOU are in the wrong.
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It's really all about the extreme left suddenly coming face to face with the fact that even with the help of the mainstream media, they cannot destroy Trump politically at will as they did GWB , Palin, and a few others. They are losing their collective minds over it. In their minds any level of support for Trump is cultish worship.
 
nota bene said:
Find even one post in which I have "kissed up." Just one. And in case this proves impossible, which it will, find even one in which I have praised him. Just one.

What I object to is the irrational hatred of the man. I don't think he's likeable, and I was horrified when he won the nomination. But those who hate him are unwilling, even grudgingly, to credit him for anything. Ever. And that's what I'm sick of.

Okay, and I'm also sick of the daily two-minute hate threads and crap like calling him "twump." It's just so infantile.

And that's right--I never called former President Obama a derogatory name or Hillary Clinton either. That's where I'm coming from. Too bad that those who are hyper-partisan themselves project that onto others. When you are unwilling to give Trump (or any other President, for that matter) credit for anything, YOU are in the wrong.
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Well, there's no question you make some good points here. I freely admit it would be a cold day in hell before I'd want to give Trump credit for much of anything. I have though given him credit for reducing some restrictions that helped the economy somewhat.(God, that was painful). And I think he deserves credit for cutting some of the red tape for our military commanders. Obama was overbearing in that regard. I also have heard that his son-in-law was very helpful in enacting some long overdue prison reforms. However, his downside is so large that it's very difficult to get around it.
 
trixare4kids said:
No, you own that all you have are personal attacks, aka ad hominem fails.

I am not a Trump cultist.
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What they do not want to accept is that it's not really about Trump...it's about ideology, stances and actions taken. I was a late convert to Trump, made my choice during the debates and Trump has in just three years addressed most everything on my wish list. Why would I not support him?
 
Moot said:
Funny how Trump called the virus a hoax.

Funny how Trump refuses to help the hospitals screaming for federal help.

Funny how Trump only helps Governors that bend over and kiss his ring.

Funny how Trump pretends to be a doctor and prescribes drugs on TV and Twitter.

Funny how Trump tells real doctors on the front line that they don't need that many ventilators because they cost too much.

Funny how Trump refuses to use the Defense Production Act.

Funny how Trump keeps getting contradicted by Dr. Fausi on the seriousness of the virus.

Funny how Trump refused to get tested and still went out shaking hands.

Funny how Trump wants people to go back to work at the peak of the virus outbreak when all the experts are telling people to stay home.

Funny how Trump first praised China handling of the coronavirus and then trolled them calling it the "China virus".

Funny how Trump cares more about the economy than saving human lives.

Funny how Trump gives a press conference everyday now that he can't hold rallies...when for three years he hardly held any press conferences at all.

Funny how Trump attacks the press and makes this crisis about himself.

Funny how Trump never takes personal responsibility and blames everyone else.
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I stopped reading your list after the first item. If you cannot tell the truth at the beginning, why should I go any further? Trump did not call the virus a hoax. He referred to the democrats blaming it on him as a hoax.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I stopped reading your list after the first item. If you cannot tell the truth at the beginning, why should I go any further? Trump did not call the virus a hoax. He referred to the democrats blaming it on him as a hoax.
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One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that.

~ President Donald John Trump



Your interpretation of that was generous, to say the least.
 
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