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[W:1059]Man dies after taking chloroquine phosphate in effort to prevent coronavirus

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SLC said:
The fish cleaner said not for human consumption.
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Canned dog food isn't for human consumption, either, but some people have eaten it. Cookie dough says not for raw consumption but is eaten all the time. Link to the picture of the container you claim you saw.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Phosphate tells me it is a cleaner....
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Obviously your field isn't science, chemistry or medicine. Perhaps if you used Google more and relied less on pundits like Sean it would help you?

Chloroquine Oral : Uses, Side Effects, Interactions, Pictures, Warnings & Dosing - WebMD
Chloroquine Phosphate
COMMON BRAND(S): Aralen
GENERIC NAME(S): Chloroquine Phosphate

How to use Chloroquine Phosphate
Take this medication by mouth, usually with food to prevent stomach upset, exactly as directed by your doctor. Daily or weekly dosing, dosage amount, and length of treatment are based on your medical condition, on whether you are preventing or treating the illness, and your response to treatment. The dosage in children is also based on weight.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Phosphate in the ingredients tells me it is a cleaner.
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I challenge you to find a fish tank cleaner with this substance. On the other hand, here is a quote from a company called Fishman Chemical:

"USES: Chloroquine Phosphate is a replacement for both copper sulfate and quinine and it is superior to copper sulfate and all quinine salts. Chloroquine is used as a bacteriacide, an algaecide and as an antimalarial. It is superior in the fight against ICH, slimness of the skin and flukes and can be used as both a treatment and a preventative."
 
Metric Mouse said:
I believe someone confused enough to drink fish tank cleaner to cure a disease she doesn't have may not be the most reliable source of information on what is and what isn't a medication.
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I challenge you to find a brand of fish tank cleaner with this substance. Meanwhile, here is a quote from the company Fishman Chemical, LLC;

"USES: Chloroquine Phosphate is a replacement for both copper sulfate and quinine and it is superior to copper sulfate and all quinine salts. Chloroquine is used as a bacteriacide, an algaecide and as an antimalarial. It is superior in the fight against ICH, slimness of the skin and flukes and can be used as both a treatment and a preventative."

you'll notice it is used as an antimalarial.......
 
why, are you afraid of the truth?
 
ldsrptcvt said:
I challenge you to find a brand of fish tank cleaner with this substance. Meanwhile, here is a quote from the company Fishman Chemical, LLC;

"USES: Chloroquine Phosphate is a replacement for both copper sulfate and quinine and it is superior to copper sulfate and all quinine salts. Chloroquine is used as a bacteriacide, an algaecide and as an antimalarial. It is superior in the fight against ICH, slimness of the skin and flukes and can be used as both a treatment and a preventative."

you'll notice it is used as an antimalarial.......
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And as a algaecide and bacteriacide; i.e. it cleans the tank to keep infection and disease down.
 
Do fish even get malaria?
 
ldsrptcvt said:
How many people are so well acquainted with pharmacology that they understand the differences between veterinary and human medication, or that even if it had been a human formulation it is extremely easy to overdose on it (as did three people in Nigeria, also after hearing Trump)?
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I’m well acquainted with the pharmacology, and as I have said many, many times here.... it’s literally exactly the same drug.

I don’t know what concentration it was at, but chloriquine is a drug with a really narrow therapeutic window, and it would be easy to overdose.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Phosphate in the ingredients tells me it is a cleaner.
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Ever heard of Codeine Phosphate? Potassium Phosphate? Calcium Phosphate? Monopotassium Phosphate ?

Just a few that are used medically and found in common every day things like Gatorade.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
I challenge you to find a brand of fish tank cleaner with this substance.
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Mr. Fraggs Chloroquin Phosphate 10G Fish Ich/Fungus Aquarium Additive. Additional active ingredients: Potassium Chloride, Chlorine, Ammonia salts, Pine oil derivatives, and traces of crystalized magnesium. The instructions state: Not for human consumption. Mix 3 grams with one gallon of water, add 6 ounces of white vinegar, stir, place in tank, fill with sufficient water to raise the level to the top, let sit for 48-72 hours, rinse, wipe down and rinse again, let dry wipe with a damp cloth and rinse again before replacing original contents. I bought a 20 ounce jar about 2 years ago for $13.99. Currently offered on eBay $800 for a 10 gram envelope.

I have about 2/3 of a bottle left. Taking bids. Now we're using a professional fish tank cleaning service that comes here once every 5-6 weeks or so. Much easier, and I don't have to chase the fish with that small net. A referral from my dentist. This was my wife's first husband's tank. His hobby. She keeps it going but had me doing the cleaning. The kids like watching when she feeds baby guppies to the bigger fish in the tank. Little sadists getting their rocks off. Of course when one of the fish floats belly up to the surface I'm the one who has to flush him. Sometimes I tell the kids we should cook it and eat it, or at least offer it to the cat. They give me dirty looks. Meh, the cat is a picky eater.
 
Threegoofs said:
I’m well acquainted with the pharmacology, and as I have said many, many times here.... it’s literally exactly the same drug.

I don’t know what concentration it was at, but chloriquine is a drug with a really narrow therapeutic window, and it would be easy to overdose.
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Yes on the latter. Certainly not the same products.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Mr. Fraggs Chloroquin Phosphate 10G Fish Ich/Fungus Aquarium Additive. Additional active ingredients: Potassium Chloride, Chlorine, Ammonia salts, Pine oil derivatives, and traces of crystalized magnesium. The instructions state: Not for human consumption. Mix 3 grams with one gallon of water, add 6 ounces of white vinegar, stir, place in tank, fill with sufficient water to raise the level to the top, let sit for 48-72 hours, rinse, wipe down and rinse again, let dry wipe with a damp cloth and rinse again before replacing original contents. I bought a 20 ounce jar about 2 years ago for $13.99. Currently offered on eBay $800 for a 10 gram envelope.

I have about 2/3 of a bottle left. Taking bids. Now we're using a professional fish tank cleaning service that comes here once every 5-6 weeks or so. Much easier, and I don't have to chase the fish with that small net. A referral from my dentist. This was my wife's first husband's tank. His hobby. She keeps it going but had me doing the cleaning. The kids like watching when she feeds baby guppies to the bigger fish in the tank. Little sadists getting their rocks off. Of course when one of the fish floats belly up to the surface I'm the one who has to flush him. Sometimes I tell the kids we should cook it and eat it, or at least offer it to the cat. They give me dirty looks. Meh, the cat is a picky eater.
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I didn't know there was a tank-cleaning professional service. I'd pay. Were there back-in-the-day, but I just didn't know it? Asking because when I was young, I was the accompanist of a violinist whose dad was a physician, but also a lepidopterist who traveled all over the world collecting butterflies. Some were gigantic, one of them the most beautiful turquoise I've ever seen. And he had fish tanks, very long ones that lined the halls and various rooms, casting a lovely, eerie glow. Man, somebody had to clean those fish tanks, and I've always wondered who.
 
Threegoofs said:
Weird how chloroquine phosphate comes in human Rx tablets.
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Right? I buy mine at the fish supply store. Way cheaper than going to the pharmacy.
 
Metric Mouse said:
Right? I buy mine at the fish supply store. Way cheaper than going to the pharmacy.
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That would be pretty stupid, but if I was on a desert island and needed chloroquine The fish tablets would be fine, as long as you were extremely careful about dosing, interactions, and adverse effects.
 
SLC said:
Do the sell as a liquid in a bottle that says Not for human consumption?
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You mean that deadly sulfate? LOL

I’m not sure you get that that is a legal disclaimer and FDA guidance for things not approved for human consumption.
 
ldsrptcvt said:
I challenge you to find a fish tank cleaner with this substance. On the other hand, here is a quote from a company called Fishman Chemical:

"USES: Chloroquine Phosphate is a replacement for both copper sulfate and quinine and it is superior to copper sulfate and all quinine salts. Chloroquine is used as a bacteriacide, an algaecide and as an antimalarial. It is superior in the fight against ICH, slimness of the skin and flukes and can be used as both a treatment and a preventative."
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Feel free to use it so long as your doctor prescribes it for you.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Obviously your field isn't science, chemistry or medicine. Perhaps if you used Google more and relied less on pundits like Sean it would help you?

Chloroquine Oral : Uses, Side Effects, Interactions, Pictures, Warnings & Dosing - WebMD
Chloroquine Phosphate
COMMON BRAND(S): Aralen
GENERIC NAME(S): Chloroquine Phosphate

How to use Chloroquine Phosphate
Take this medication by mouth, usually with food to prevent stomach upset, exactly as directed by your doctor. Daily or weekly dosing, dosage amount, and length of treatment are based on your medical condition, on whether you are preventing or treating the illness, and your response to treatment. The dosage in children is also based on weight.
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I took chemistry in college but admit it definitely is not my field. Funny you posted the same data I myself had posted.
 
Threegoofs said:
That would be pretty stupid, but if I was on a desert island and needed chloroquine The fish tablets would be fine, as long as you were extremely careful about dosing, interactions, and adverse effects.
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And your fish would never get malaria! It's perfect!
 
nota bene said:
I didn't know there was a tank-cleaning professional service. I'd pay. Were there back-in-the-day, but I just didn't know it? Asking because when I was young, I was the accompanist of a violinist whose dad was a physician, but also a lepidopterist who traveled all over the world collecting butterflies. Some were gigantic, one of them the most beautiful turquoise I've ever seen. And he had fish tanks, very long ones that lined the halls and various rooms, casting a lovely, eerie glow. Man, somebody had to clean those fish tanks, and I've always wondered who.
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I don't know enough about fish tanks or fish in tanks to know. If not for my dentist's referral, I'd still be the one stuck with cleaning the tank. My dentist keeps a large aquarium in his waiting room, built into a wall. I asked how he got the tank out to clean it and he said "Who me?" From that question onward he clued me in. I imagine that there have been services around in the bigger cities for as long as people have been keeping fish in tanks as part of the decor. BTW, there's a hidden door in the wall that leads to the back of the tank, the air and water filter motors underneath and behind it. He also has a service that keeps the tank stocked, he also knows nothing or very little about the fish in it. He keeps busy torturing people and taking their money in return. What a gig? If I had known at a younger age dentistry would become big money, I might have chosen a different path. He works 4 days a week, 6 hours a day. 6 other dentists working for him, and 3 periodontists. And he doesn't even play golf. :doh He's always smiling.

Mel Gibson collects butterflies, but I don't think he does it intentionally. Something to do with alcohol consumption. Tho I think these days he has Igor chain him up when there is a full moon and he's on a binge.
 
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