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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

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    What are you? 12yo?
    hell, maybe i need to start acting 12 so i'll be on par with your favorite politician's tweets.

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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    Quote Originally Posted by Indie guy View Post
    Yep, all this martial law is not going to sit well with the majority of Americans for very long. We're used to moving freely, going where we want, and doing whatever the hell we please.

    There is a reason to take precautions and prevent the spread of the virus, but when the government mandates all these controls it's not only detrimental to the economy but downright unconstitutional.
    I can hear you grumbling about rationing in WWII, building planes instead of cars, liberty ships instead of yachts, etc., and who needs victory gardens? Look, there will be overreactions and under reactions, useless rules and life saving ones. Think of Bush after 9/11 vs after Katrina. I forgive Gov Newsom for thinking we are all in this together.

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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    I suppose the data in the link below will be scary, and it is not my intent to fear monger. The Truth is important for us (all of us in the US) to listen to what the Governors and Mayors are saying, and to disregard most if not all of what Trump&Co. are saying in their dog and pony shows.

    Why we’re not overreacting to the coronavirus pandemic, in one chart - Vox

    I know my comment will be seen as partisan, but the facts suggest the truth be told, no matter how severe the criticism of Trump is, but the situation we are in is a definite life or death matter.
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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    I can hear you grumbling about rationing in WWII, building planes instead of cars, liberty ships instead of yachts, etc., and who needs victory gardens? Look, there will be overreactions and under reactions, useless rules and life saving ones. Think of Bush after 9/11 vs after Katrina. I forgive Gov Newsom for thinking we are all in this together.
    IMHO Gov. Newsom's actions were what Trump didn't do, and today stated he would not do. The CA Governor was putting people before politics, trump was putting himself before the people, and has been being political for way too long.
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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    Quote Originally Posted by Nickyjo View Post
    I can hear you grumbling about rationing in WWII, building planes instead of cars, liberty ships instead of yachts, etc., and who needs victory gardens? Look, there will be overreactions and under reactions, useless rules and life saving ones. Think of Bush after 9/11 vs after Katrina. I forgive Gov Newsom for thinking we are all in this together.
    WWII was a different situation because we were attacked by the Japanese, and Germany declared war on us. Not only did we have to go to war, we were just coming out of a huge depression. Rationing and conserving goods were necessary. Those good old days our grandparents lived through back then weren't so good. The 1940s were a far different time than 2020 - very few or none of the scientific, technological, or health care advancements were available like they are now.

    America shouldn't be behaving like it's wartime all over again because it isn't.

    Bush reacted like a dumbhead after the 9-11 attacks - maybe not at first, but a year later he diverted the military efforts to Iraq. We had absolutely no reason to spend billions of dollars attacking a country which had nothing to do with 9-11. Turned out to be an absolute disaster which had little support at the end of Bush's term.

    So yeah I was grumbling a lot about what we did to fight terrorists after 9-11 because we didn't go after the true source, just like I'm fairly pissed about this current government control of our lives.
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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    Quote Originally Posted by jaypatriot View Post
    hum
    Those are the right numbers. Maybe if the ventilators and the test kits come in out greater numbers we'll be able to identify those infected, exhibiting symptoms, give them the right treatment with the right equipment, and keep them from dying. Flattening the curve might just keep people from dying in their homes or in the streets for lack of material resources.
    It appears we're making progress on those fronts. We also may have a breakthrough on the cure front in the near future.

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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    Quote Originally Posted by Wry Catcher View Post
    IMHO Gov. Newsom's actions were what Trump didn't do, and today stated he would not do. The CA Governor was putting people before politics, trump was putting himself before the people, and has been being political for way too long.
    I agree, but I donít get it. Why does the guy say dumb stuff that is so quickly contradicted by scientist who know more? He is supposed to comfort us, but he needs to use truth.

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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Not everyone is saying that so knock off the lies. The UK practiced herd immunity and other alternatives have been mentioned.
    That's a neat way to say "Ignore it entirely and let people die off."


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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamish Howl View Post
    That's a neat way to say "Ignore it entirely and let people die off."



    Appeal to emotion fallacy. And tell it to the Brits since its the idea of their "experts"

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    Re: Stop It With the Coronavirus Curfews Already

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Appeal to emotion fallacy. And tell it to the Brits since its the idea of their "experts"
    Naw, a bald statement of fact. Outside of an available vaccine, how do you get herd immunity?

    Oh, right. By letting the virus rip through the population unchecked.
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