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Expect a Million Deaths

eohrnberger said:
If I'm not mistaken, you are purporting a balanced and carefully risk evaluating and thoughtful, non-binary approach. In this, I support you.
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Well, that's fine when it's not based on an ignorant understanding of who is at risk. 10s of millions are at higher risk (such as those with diabetes or high blood pressure, or obesity) who can expect to live perhaps decades longer but for this virus. If it's OK to kill off those people, someone needs to be specific.
 
vegas giants said:
Hahahaha. Thanks for showing everyone.


Even with the evidence right in front of you ....you will deny it. Lol
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What a journalist says is not evidence. They no longer have credibility like they once did.

What is the Trump quote I missed?
 
eohrnberger said:
Not very dictatorial or authoritarian, is it?
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Not at all. The closest thing I heard him say is to follow what the states lay down as law. I didn't read anything he said as advocating closing business, but to abide by the law in the states that do such things.
 
Lord of Planar said:
What a journalist says is not evidence. They no longer have credibility like they once did.

What is the Trump quote I missed?
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Are you saying it is not a official white White House recommendation that non essential businesses be closed?


Say that.


Watch this folks. Lol
 
JasperL said:
Well, that's fine when it's not based on an ignorant understanding of who is at risk. 10s of millions are at higher risk (such as those with diabetes or high blood pressure, or obesity) who can expect to live perhaps decades longer but for this virus. If it's OK to kill off those people, someone needs to be specific.
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At what point to you shut down an economy to save a life that will die soon anyway?
 
JasperL said:
Well, that's fine when it's not based on an ignorant understanding of who is at risk. 10s of millions are at higher risk (such as those with diabetes or high blood pressure, or obesity) who can expect to live perhaps decades longer but for this virus. If it's OK to kill off those people, someone needs to be specific.
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Where in what I posted did I support this? I don't think I did in any fashion.
What part of balanced, careful, thoughtful and non-binary approach don't you understand?

It would be bad to dismiss the viral outbreak and continue with business as usual taking no precautions as it would be overcompensating the other way and lock down an economy until there was no risk at all, likely to the point of years in an overly slow recovery (we've seen this in the great depression and others).

Careful, thoughtful balance, as posted, is what's needed.

People make risk judgements for themselves every single day of their lives, some of which do have significant health and life impacts, yet they make them none the less. It is part of life and part of living. Without the opportunity to make such choices, its really not living. It is merely existing.
 
JasperL said:
Well, that's fine when it's not based on an ignorant understanding of who is at risk. 10s of millions are at higher risk (such as those with diabetes or high blood pressure, or obesity) who can expect to live perhaps decades longer but for this virus. If it's OK to kill off those people, someone needs to be specific.
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2.5 million people will die this year without the pandemic. So we can assume that there should be 3.5 million deaths if you add in this pandemic. I guess time will tell.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
2.5 million people will die this year without the pandemic. So we can assume that there should be 3.5 million deaths if you add in this pandemic. I guess time will tell.
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So if we get 50 million dying at the figurative hands of this bug as some are thinking likely, well that would be something.........
 
From the response in this post, 911 was a total nothingburger.
 
Conservative said:
So you think only the public sector is going to get relief under Trump? Maybe you should spend less time here and more time out seeing what is going on

Couldn't care less about your opinions but only about results, results that you want to ignore all compared against Obama and all as of February 2020

DP and Dollar change
2008 14712.8
2009 14448.9
2010 14992.1
GDP dollars and GDP dollar growth, 487 billion growth is what Trump inherited, what was it in 2017-2018-2019?

2011 15,542.6 +804.4
2012 16197.0 +562.4
2013 16784.9 +587.9
2014 17527.3 +652.4
2015 18224.8 +697.5
2016 18715.0 +487.2
2017 19519.4 +804.4
2018 20,580.2 +1060.8
2019 21427.1 +846.9

Then there is this which Trump inherited and the comparison today. Anyone that claims the GDP growth now is similar to what Obama had is the true hack and totally has no credibility

Unemployment Rate 4.7% January 2017 vs. 3.6% today

Employed 152.2 million January 2017 to 157.9 million today so 6 million job growth from 2008 to 2017(146 million to 152 million) is celebrated but 6.7 million growth I the last two years isn't!! LOL

U-6 in January 2017 9.3% vs 6.9% today? Wow!! 2.4% better U-6 obviously meaningless to you

Part time for economic reasons, 5.7 million January 2017 vs. 4.2 million today? Looks to me that incredible job growth you claim was boosted by part time jobs. Part time for economic reason jobs when the recession started 4.8 million, 5.7 million when Obama left office

African American unemployment 8.0% vs. 6.0% today? That explains the surge in support from African Americans for Trump
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Do those numbers really mean anything now that unemployment rates are going to mirror Depression Era rates?
The world has already changed and nothing will remain the same.
 
Aristaeus said:
The time between infection and death is around two weeks, which means the people dying now (250+ a day) are the ones who caught it two weeks ago. The number of confirmed cases shot up about two weeks ago, so expect the daily death toll to shoot up in the next week or two. This time next week you'll be starting to get 1,000+ deaths a day and rising.
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Paradoxical said:
We'll see. I highly doubt it. They will start using the new drug that Trump masterfully made the FDA approve in 3 days when they said a year called hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug, and the antibiotic azithromycin which is showing amazing results so far.

Time will tell.
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Sadly, my prediction has come true. Even sooner than I thought.
 
calamity said:
We'll hit 210,000 cases and 4000 deaths tomorrow for sure. So much winning.


MAGA! That spells killing Americans
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There is no finding common ground with people who espouse such rhetoric. Completely and irredeemably irrational.
 
Fletch said:
And when would you have liked him to start doing this? On Feb 24 when Pelosi was in Chinatown imploring people to visit there or on March 2 when De Blasio was telling New Yorkers to go on with their lives and go out and see a movie?

Stick to Global Warming alarmism
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He's done a horrible job in that forum as well...
 
Aberration said:
There is no finding common ground with people who espouse such rhetoric. Completely and irredeemably irrational.
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The truth hurts even more if you continue to delay accepting it.
 
Threegoofs said:
Because in a large nation, no one knows which region will be affected first. West coast seems the most obvious, but it was NYC. And New Orleans. Who could know?

Except the feds.
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So the Feds should know what no one could know. That makes zero sense. If you actually used your head, you would realize that local government would sniff out a local problem far earlier than the feds. But you dont dare let that obvious fact enter your brain for fear of destroying your blame Trump narrative. The feds are not in charge of stock piling masks and gowns and respirators for every local hospital across the nation.

Youve had liberals running NYC and New York state for a generation. You guys claim to be the smart ones. Why didnt you see this coming and prepare for it instead of whing and blaming others? Maybe youre not nearly as bright as you think you are.
 
Aberration said:
So accept it already.
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Republicans: "4 deaths is a monumental failure by the black president and that bitch secretary of state."

400,000 deaths under the white guy?

Trumpers: "**** happens."
 
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