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Is COV-19 affecting politics?

Is COV-19 affecting politics?

  • Oh yes

    Votes: 18 78.3%
  • Hell no

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • It shouldn't

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • It might

    Votes: 1 4.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 8.7%

  • Total voters
    23
  • Poll closed .
I hate my doctor, who gives me a painful shot in the ass for anything I complain about. I'll have to have some nasty pneumonia before I try and get an appt. The US Gov could setup a network of online medical advisers for patients unsure whether their symptoms require medical attention.

Right now the model seems to be "go to the doctor", but several states are starting to set up tents or other facilities away from clinics and hospitals where someone who is sick may infect others. This is good, but unfortunately the rollout is very slow.

At this point, I think it is sad to say that our outcome will not look like S. Korea's at all. We did not respond.
 
Right now the model seems to be "go to the doctor", but several states are starting to set up tents or other facilities away from clinics and hospitals where someone who is sick may infect others. This is good, but unfortunately the rollout is very slow.At this point, I think it is sad to say that our outcome will not look like S. Korea's at all. We did not respond.

My doctor told me yesterday that there is no communication or protocol. That coming to him, would likely only get his staff infected, spread the virus, and render another health care group out of commission. Is advice was for people to go to the hospital.
They ordered tests a while back, still don't have them anyway. Nurse spent 10 minutes venting about this.
 
My doctor told me yesterday that there is no communication or protocol. That coming to him, would likely only get his staff infected, spread the virus, and render another health care group out of commission. Is advice was for people to go to the hospital.
They ordered tests a while back, still don't have them anyway. Nurse spent 10 minutes venting about this.
I know, the lack of federal leadership means the states now have to step up. Its good that they are, but all this should have been started weeks ago.

In a nutshell, we're ****ed
 
Well, he has now also put Jahred (as they call him on the news) in charge of the Covid-19 response alongside Pence. Once again Trump splits efforts. Two masters are guaranteed to slow down the process. Worse, the new master is Jared Kushner, the middle east "expert." Jesus wept.

Jared and Steve Miller are reported to have been the co-authors of Trump's disastrous address to the nation that STILL to this minute is not fully understood or explained even as the government tries to make sense of it. Jared and Miller's speech and Trump's inability, once again, to understand that actions have consequences will be difficult to forget even months from now. In fact, European countries were surprised and shocked as Trump's address included an end to trade with Europe and then didn't but remained confusing. Same with air travel.

Trump can't do wrong right. Exposed to several people who have tested positive for the virus Trump refuses to be tested, wants to continue rallies and intends to keep shaking hands. That's leadership all right, leading to the rear, and sending exactly the wrong message to Americans.

Trump and his adminsitration continue to ignore, misinform and lie about all things related to the virus. There is no leadership, there's Trump. As Americans suffer more and more they will remember long after November.


I agree that this is a serious flu/disease. And that the Media is blowing it way out of proportion causing a serious economic overreaction. But it's not a Dem vs GOP thing in other countries, which are also having Media anxiety, so it's more panic driven than political though the parties extremists are trying their best to interject their bias.

Trump has certainly mishandled the whole thing with his cavalier attitude and noncommittal acceptance of how dire the situation is but his supporters will follow him down the rabbit hole no matter how weird he gets.

And don't get me started on how stupid his nepotism with Jared the wunderkind. That kid is plain old dumb.

Maybe your doctor just likes your ass.


My doctor simply doesn't want to see me, which I agree with. Assaulting my poor heinie with his big poker. lol
 
Of course it is, but not in the twisted way conservatives want to believe.

- It was Trump wearing a "vote for me" hat at a crisis center.

- It was Trump who spent weeks pretending that the media and Democrats are just exaggerating a new hoax to hurt him.- It was Trump who declared that his prior immigration lock downs from certain countries saved us from the Virus.

- It was Trump who has consistently lied about responses and remedies.

So, what we have hear are clear examples of him promoting his anti-immigration agenda, his anti-Democrat agenda, his anti-media fake-news agenda, his habitual agenda to lie in order to create a false illusion of his leadership, and his constant campaigning for love.

Now, he is scrambling about trying to paint a picture that his response was great as he delivers boneheaded speeches that are only making matters worse. Aside from him personally politicizing the crap out of this from the beginning, American voters (and the DNC) are merely reacting to his continual diarrhea. How do the Democrats not point this out? Trump has begged the DNC to criticize him for three years. This time is no different.

The best thing that the White House could do for America at this point is to handcuff Trump to a toilet until this gets managed. Of course, considering how he has almost literally done nothing right during his presidency, he would probably just stop-up the toilet too and call it perfect while calling the janitor a leftist. The COVID-19 is not the threat to Trump. Trump is and has always been Trump's threat. His greatest desperate hope, as always, is that his constituency continues to ignore him.

No exaggeration there, that's precisely what they are doing. Like Pelosi introducing poison pills into coronavirus legislation.
 
Right now the model seems to be "go to the doctor", but several states are starting to set up tents or other facilities away from clinics and hospitals where someone who is sick may infect others. This is good, but unfortunately the rollout is very slow.

At this point, I think it is sad to say that our outcome will not look like S. Korea's at all. We did not respond.

You really envision sick people jamming up the ER's and wandering the streets? I don't think the cases will hit that fast and hard but I could be wrong.
 
You really envision sick people jamming up the ER's and wandering the streets? I don't think the cases will hit that fast and hard but I could be wrong.

I do :(

It may be a few weeks out though
 
I do :(

It may be a few weeks out though

The Headlines certainly support your view. I'm hoping for a less severe outcome.


The C.D.C.’s scenarios were depicted in terms of percentages of the population. Translated into absolute numbers by independent experts using simple models of how viruses spread, the worst-case figures would be staggering if no actions were taken to slow transmission.

Between 160 million and 214 million people in the U.S. could be infected over the course of the epidemic, according to one projection. That could last months or even over a year, with infections concentrated in shorter periods, staggered across time in different communities, experts said. As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die.

And, the calculations based on the C.D.C.’s scenarios suggested, 2.4 million to 21 million people in the U.S. could require hospitalization, potentially crushing the nation’s medical system, which has only about 925,000 staffed hospital beds. Fewer than a tenth of those are for people who are critically ill.

The Worst-Case Estimate for U.S. Coronavirus Deaths – DNyuz


No state in the U.S. will have enough room to treat novel coronavirus patients if the surge in severe cases here mirrors that in other countries.

A USA TODAY analysis shows that if the nation sees a major spike, there could be almost six seriously ill patients for every existing hospital bed.

That analysis, based on data from the American Hospital Association, U.S. Census, CDC and World Health Organization, is conservative. For example, it assumes all 790,000 beds will be empty.

Since two thirds are not, the reality could be far worse: about 17 people competing for each open bed.

Coronavirus cases: Spike would leave US hospitals without enough beds
 
The Headlines certainly support your view. I'm hoping for a less severe outcome.

If we are smart enough to get the military and national guard involved, we can set up mash units which will help. also we have all sorts of doctors offices for other things (plastic surgery for example) which can be tasked to help.

I dont know those numbers
 
If we are smart enough to get the military and national guard involved, we can set up mash units which will help. also we have all sorts of doctors offices for other things (plastic surgery for example) which can be tasked to help.

I dont know those numbers

If our Gov response is no better than it was for Katrina, then we're in for a mess. I don't think FEMA or the Army can organize an HS Prom, more less a natl medical effort.
 
Of course it is, but not in the twisted way conservatives want to believe.

- It was Trump wearing a "vote for me" hat at a crisis center.

- It was Trump who spent weeks pretending that the media and Democrats are just exaggerating a new hoax to hurt him.

- It was Trump who declared that his prior immigration lock downs from certain countries saved us from the Virus.

- It was Trump who has consistently lied about responses and remedies.

So, what we have hear are clear examples of him promoting his anti-immigration agenda, his anti-Democrat agenda, his anti-media fake-news agenda, his habitual agenda to lie in order to create a false illusion of his leadership, and his constant campaigning for love.

Now, he is scrambling about trying to paint a picture that his response was great as he delivers boneheaded speeches that are only making matters worse. Aside from him personally politicizing the crap out of this from the beginning, American voters (and the DNC) are merely reacting to his continual diarrhea. How do the Democrats not point this out? Trump has begged the DNC to criticize him for three years. This time is no different.

The best thing that the White House could do for America at this point is to handcuff Trump to a toilet until this gets managed. Of course, considering how he has almost literally done nothing right during his presidency, he would probably just stop-up the toilet too and call it perfect while calling the janitor a leftist. The COVID-19 is not the threat to Trump. Trump is and has always been Trump's threat. His greatest desperate hope, as always, is that his constituency continues to ignore him.

Thanks, well said! :applaud
 
He blows my mind when he says, "it'll go away" and "we're worried about deaths." It's like he only gives a **** about his image. Then his supporters make a hoo-ha about how the media has reported the disease as a big hoax for political reasons. Nobody needs to blame Trump for his goofy behavior, he already owns it. I predict if the markets drop into the teens, he'll address the nation again pleading for normalcy.

We just received a very clear bit of proof that this is yet another issue that Trump has wrapped around his ego:

- After shaking hands with the Brazilian president, who tested positive for COVID, the White House has declared that Trump will not be tested.

This is his Administration's way of pushing the idea that Trump's dismissive message is valid, but the truth is that Trump has enough egg on his face without being an uber hypocrite on top of it. In the meantime we are talking about the President of the United States who may have been exposed and our White House has determined that his position is not important enough to protect. Is he not elderly? Of course, he will be tested on the down-low, but the public message is clear: the most powerful position on the planet is vulnerable because the person occupying it is a stubborn, ignorant mule who won't take responsibility for himself after telling educated, trained, and experienced health officials that they are wrong.
 
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The virus hasn't peaked yet so it's hard to predict how long it will last.

If coronavirus disappears in the summer like the common cold and flu does, I think the whole coronavirus thing will be forgotten by November.
 
The virus hasn't peaked yet so it's hard to predict how long it will last.

If coronavirus disappears in the summer like the common cold and flu does, I think the whole coronavirus thing will be forgotten by November.

Also, it will be likely by then that we will have developed medicines to cope. In the meantime, beware of zombies.
 
We just received a very clear bit of proof that this is yet another issue that Trump has wrapped around his ego:

- After shaking hands with the Brazilian president, who tested positive for COVID, the White House has declared that Trump will not be tested.

This is his Administration's way of pushing the idea that Trump's dismissive message is valid, but the truth is that Trump has enough egg on his face without being an uber hypocrite on top of it. In the meantime we are talking about the President of the United States who may have been exposed and our White House has determined that his position is not important enough to protect. Is he not elderly? Of course, he will be tested on the down-low, but the public message is clear: the most powerful position on the planet is vulnerable because the person occupying it is a stubborn, ignorant mule who won't take responsibility for himself after telling educated, trained, and experienced health officials that they are wrong.

His wife needs to donkey punch him so he'll get some sense. He's only fueling this mess with his false bravado. This doesn't bode well for his image, even with Pubes (republicans). :lol:
 
His wife needs to donkey punch him so he'll get some sense. He's only fueling this mess with his false bravado. This doesn't bode well for his image, even with Pubes (republicans). :lol:

In my personal opinion, I think members of his family are secretly ashamed of him. The only ones that actually defend him is the other idiots, Jr. and Kushner.
 
His wife needs to donkey punch him so he'll get some sense. He's only fueling this mess with his false bravado. This doesn't bode well for his image, even with Pubes (republicans). :lol:

Someone needs to punch her face first then, for being an active enabler.
 
It seems that this disease, that knows no bias or respect of boundaries, is becoming a political weapon. Shouldn't we come together on a common enemy with some sensible uncharged solutions?


The biggest threat to Donald Trump's re-election in 2020 may be COVID-19.

The spread of the novel coronavirus is shaping up as a test of Trump's core pitch to voters: that they are better off than they were when he took office. Sharp drops in the stock market, school and office closures, crashing oil prices and widespread disruptions to other major industries have some Trump supporters concerned that the virus is triggering a new financial crisis that could hurt Trump's bid for a second term more than any political test he's faced so far.

'The economic ramifications of the coronavirus are increasingly likely to weigh heavily on Trump's re-election chances and quite possibly could cost him re-election,' says Republican donor Dan Eberhart.

One recent historical precedent in particular troubles Trump's close allies. After the housing bubble precipitated an economic meltdown in 2008, voters turned from incumbent Republicans to opposition Democrats in that fall's election, voting Barack Obama into the White House and sending Democratic majorities to both the House and the Senate. The parallels to 2008 'are especially frightening from my vantage point right now,' Eberhart says.

How Coronavirus Could Affect Donald Trump's Re-Election | Time

I think the coronavirus is affecting politics, but I disagree that the biggest threat is to Trump. It's affecting politics because not everyone will be easily able to get out and vote the way they would normally do. Some may be sick from the virus or doing a self-quarantine and who knows what kinds of things will happen at the polling places with this community spread. It negatively affects Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden because they are no longer able to get out and talk to their supporters and hold public rallies. They can't even have a debate now with an audience present.

Trump's a different animal. That POS hasn't stopped campaigning since the last election, instead of running the country for his first term in office, he's been doing what he does best. He's been using his presidency for his own personal benefit, he's been using every opportunity at home and abroad to campaign for his next election because he only cares about himself. He uses any time in front of a mic to praise himself and insult all others. He is a disgrace, the sooner he gets the boot, the better.
 
I think the coronavirus is affecting politics, but I disagree that the biggest threat is to Trump. It's affecting politics because not everyone will be easily able to get out and vote the way they would normally do. Some may be sick from the virus or doing a self-quarantine and who knows what kinds of things will happen at the polling places with this community spread. It negatively affects Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden because they are no longer able to get out and talk to their supporters and hold public rallies. They can't even have a debate now with an audience present.

Trump's a different animal. That POS hasn't stopped campaigning since the last election, instead of running the country for his first term in office, he's been doing what he does best. He's been using his presidency for his own personal benefit, he's been using every opportunity at home and abroad to campaign for his next election because he only cares about himself. He uses any time in front of a mic to praise himself and insult all others. He is a disgrace, the sooner he gets the boot, the better.

I'm afraid Biden will come across as stale, old white bread, rather than a fresh change from President PumpkinHead. You're 100% correct that Trump has never stopped running for his 2nd term. He represents a greedy portion of Americans that are purely self-interested.
 
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