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Undercover nurse - covid 19 - MURDER FOR PROFIT

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I do not expect nearly any Democrat would be willing to watch this because - as she says at the end - if something is just said over and over and over endlessly people accept it and won't hear anything different.

Here is a summary:
She is a ex-army nurse, wounded, and was in military trauma care. She then went to work at a private (for profit) hospital. With New York declared the epicenter - she voluntarily went to what was being called the "epicenter of the epicenter" - a public (basically poor people) hospital in Queens. What she saw happening was so shocking she started recording/documenting it.

This is a summary:e
1, The hospital refused to do the fast-track covid-19 test (45 minutes) to the one taking 7 days.
2, Approximate half of those coming in were possibly covid-19 and half not.
3, Covid 19 positive and not covid 19 positive patients were put together in the same rooms - on every floor - something never done before for people with contagious diseasees.
4. Although even if testing negative repeatedly, they would be listed as covid-19.
5. Everyone would be given a massive variety of drugs to make them unconscious, strapped to the bed and automatically put on a ventilator.
6. She noted that being put on a ventilator was worth $29,000, plus medicare would pay for all the drugs.
7. The ventilators would be increasingly turned up until "blowing out" the person's lungs - literally with increasing pressure - until the person died.
8, The nurses were told not to do CPR - but doctors refused to sign any order to that effect.

Summary:
1. Anyone who had come to the private hospital she previously works for who had covid-19 lived - 100%.

2. 100% of people who came to the hospital she was at died - and a doctor told her they all are going to die - with 1 exception.
A drug addict having an anxiety attack was drugged down like the others to unconsciousness and despite the opposition of this nurse was put on a ventilator - waiting for her to leave the room for CODE (code red) for another patient. However, because he was a drug addict, the cocktail of drugs he was given did not keep him unconscious. He managed to get his arm free and pull out the ventilator tube himself - literally saving his own life.

She called what was going on there was outright murdering poor people - nearly all black and Latino with some Asian. However, because of immunity from liability orders there is nothing anyone can do about it.

She is also asked her feelings about the claim of the huge case counts in Florida. She does not believe the numbers are real or make any sense.

The video is over 1 hour long. If you have any empathy in you, it will make you emotionally sick. But you will learn what is really going on and why the radically higher numbers in the USA than other places. Everyone is counted as covid-19 positive even if not. They are killing poor people - particularly people of color - completely dehumanizing them in total apathy for profit - noting the extreme financial stress public charity hospitals are in. She does ask if the government really cares at all.

If you want to know the REAL truth - at least for the hospital aspect - watch this video. If you don't want the truth, watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC etc. By recording she does document what she is says.

You also may wish to consider it in the event you or anyone else you know contracts covid-19.

 
Interesting assumptions.

"From a physician fellow at Elmhurst:
As someone who worked in those units and know the individuals and patients she referenced I can say without question that she spoke from a place of ignorance.

That she would use lazy and faulty conclusions based on superficial observations to assign motives to and assassinate the character of people who worked tirelessly is unconscionable. I know these residents and doctors, who paid emotional and physical (got sick w/ covid) toll trying their best.

Furthermore, I respect that she had concerns about patient care and applaud a system of accountability that would give her a voice to ask questions. THE PROBLEM IS SHE NEVER ASKED….. SHE JUST ASSUMED."

What Really Happened At Elmhurst Hospital
 
Xilnik said:
Interesting assumptions.

"From a physician fellow at Elmhurst:
As someone who worked in those units and know the individuals and patients she referenced I can say without question that she spoke from a place of ignorance.

That she would use lazy and faulty conclusions based on superficial observations to assign motives to and assassinate the character of people who worked tirelessly is unconscionable. I know these residents and doctors, who paid emotional and physical (got sick w/ covid) toll trying their best.

Furthermore, I respect that she had concerns about patient care and applaud a system of accountability that would give her a voice to ask questions. THE PROBLEM IS SHE NEVER ASKED….. SHE JUST ASSUMED."

What Really Happened At Elmhurst Hospital
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That statement is a lie. She recorded doctors and nurses and incessantly asked them questions. It is on the video. Put simply, he lies.
 
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Bodhisattva said:
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First, you didn't watch either video.

Second, his complaint is that she recorded without permission and can't prove they meant to kill 100% of the patients or that they deliberately falsely listed covid-19 negative patients as positive 100% of the time.

It debunks nothing. It doesn't even deny even ONE fact she claims.
 
Forwarded your video to family and friends. Thanks.
 
joko104 said:
That statement is a lie. She recorded doctors and nurses and incessantly asked them questions. It is on the video.
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I am pretty sure the physician was referring to asking questions in an HR setting where the environment is less stressful and actual conduct can be reviewed more objectively.
 
joko104 said:
I do not expect nearly any Democrat would be willing to watch this because - as she says at the end - if something is just said over and over and over endlessly people accept it and won't hear anything different.

Here is a summary:
She is a ex-army nurse, wounded, and was in military trauma care. She then went to work at a private (for profit) hospital. With New York declared the epicenter - she voluntarily went to what was being called the "epicenter of the epicenter" - a public (basically poor people) hospital in Queens. What she saw happening was so shocking she started recording/documenting it.

This is a summary:e
1, The hospital refused to do the fast-track covid-19 test (45 minutes) to the one taking 7 days.
2, Approximate half of those coming in were possibly covid-19 and half not.
3, Covid 19 positive and not covid 19 positive patients were put together in the same rooms - on every floor - something never done before for people with contagious diseasees.
4. Although even if testing negative repeatedly, they would be listed as covid-19.
5. Everyone would be given a massive variety of drugs to make them unconscious, strapped to the bed and automatically put on a ventilator.
6. She noted that being put on a ventilator was worth $29,000, plus medicare would pay for all the drugs.
7. The ventilators would be increasingly turned up until "blowing out" the person's lungs - literally with increasing pressure - until the person died.
8, The nurses were told not to do CPR - but doctors refused to sign any order to that effect.

Summary:
1. Anyone who had come to the private hospital she previously works for who had covid-19 lived - 100%.

2. 100% of people who came to the hospital she was at died - and a doctor told her they all are going to die - with 1 exception.
A drug addict having an anxiety attack was drugged down like the others to unconsciousness and despite the opposition of this nurse was put on a ventilator - waiting for her to leave the room for CODE (code red) for another patient. However, because he was a drug addict, the cocktail of drugs he was given did not keep him unconscious. He managed to get his arm free and pull out the ventilator tube himself - literally saving his own life.

She called what was going on there was outright murdering poor people - nearly all black and Latino with some Asian. However, because of immunity from liability orders there is nothing anyone can do about it.

She is also asked her feelings about the claim of the huge case counts in Florida. She does not believe the numbers are real or make any sense.

The video is over 1 hour long. If you have any empathy in you, it will make you emotionally sick. But you will learn what is really going on and why the radically higher numbers in the USA than other places. Everyone is counted as covid-19 positive even if not. They are killing poor people - particularly people of color - completely dehumanizing them in total apathy for profit - noting the extreme financial stress public charity hospitals are in. She does ask if the government really cares at all.

If you want to know the REAL truth - at least for the hospital aspect - watch this video. If you don't want the truth, watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC etc. By recording she does document what she is says.

You also may wish to consider it in the event you or anyone else you know contracts covid-19.

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I am curious.

You seem to have declared this woman as being truthful without understanding there is another side.

Are you open to listening to others?

I am telling you that if I had grave concerns...the place for me to present them would not be in a video. If she really cared she would have stopped documenting an started reporting. That way there could be either clarification of what she was seeing or a chance to save lives.

Putting crap on social media while about patients - that tells you her credibility right there. She knows as an RN that there are ways internally and externally to report. She did no such thing. And as an agency nurse from another state, it is not like she had a lot to lose over reporting.

On top of that it seems as if she misrepresented her expertise as well. That remains to be seen.

But Xilnik has presented an article that clearly gives others POV.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Forwarded your video to family and friends. Thanks.
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When any of us would agree to go on a ventilator for covid-19 is NEVER and when we could go to a PUBLIC hospital for covid-19 also is never. I would never go to a charity hospital where the government will pay tens of thousands of dollars to kill me. Actually, since there is essential NO treatment other than systemic there is little reason to go to a hospital. The government/FDA/AMA has so banned actually trying to save covid-19 patients at public government funded hospitals particularly - other than putting them on a ventilator - being in the hospital is more likely to kill you than save you.
 
Robertinfremont said:
Forwarded your video to family and friends. Thanks.
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I am curious. If I am not mistaken, you have a daughter that is a nurse.

If she saw so much awfulness going on....would she not follow a chain of command. And if that chain was broken...she could report it to the state (etc).

She was doing her own investigation when it was clear she should have been doing her job and leaving the investigating to those within and outside of the hospital she worked for.

And posting crap on social media is a huge no no. Huge. It seems like she was caught making inflammatory posts on social media and was called out for it. In our facility people are fired on the spot if it contains any patient care related information. But most people are not stupid enough to do this. If her social media posts contained information that could be used to identify a specific patient - she would have he license suspended and be personally liable for up to $25 grand for each incident.

Going to social media and not following a chain of command (internal or external) tells me most of what I need to know about her credibility.

If the story is true or false...hopefully it will get legally investigated.

As a nurse of many decades....I smell something very fishy in her story. Very fishy. It deserves to be investigated. Let the chips fall either way.
 
year2late said:
I am curious.

You seem to have declared this woman as being truthful without understanding there is another side.

Are you open to listening to others?

I am telling you that if I had grave concerns...the place for me to present them would not be in a video. If she really cared she would have stopped documenting an started reporting. That way there could be either clarification of what she was seeing or a chance to save lives.

Putting crap on social media while about patients - that tells you her credibility right there. She knows as an RN that there are ways internally and externally to report. She did no such thing. And as an agency nurse from another state, it is not like she had a lot to lose over reporting.

On top of that it seems as if she misrepresented her expertise as well. That remains to be seen.

But Xilnik has presented an article that clearly gives others POV.
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I watched both videos. You did not. Nor will you. YOU are the person who will only hear one POV.

She didn't report it? Report it to who?

It took a huge amount of courage for her to post this online and she comments how nurses dare not challenge doctors - jeopardizing her entire career. Doctor Z is somewhat like Dr. Oz, more an actor, satirist and comedian.
 
Xilnik said:
I am pretty sure the physician was referring to asking questions in an HR setting where the environment is less stressful and actual conduct can be reviewed more objectively.
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Yes, as a doctor he absolutely is OPPOSED to any nurse secretly recording what he says and videotaping what he does.

He demands in that video that if a nurse has a problem with a doctor, she obtain no evidence whatsoever - and then go met with the hospital - the hospital's lawyer present, the doctor - and the doctor's lawyer present - and a lawyer from the doctor's insurance company - for which having ZERO evidence as he demands, they tell her she misunderstood, that she's a liar, fired and blackballed from the medical profession.

That is what EVERY doctor wants of nurses - document NOTHING - and keep their mouth's shut. She talked about how nurses all know to just do what they are told without question.
 
joko104 said:
I do not expect nearly any Democrat would be willing to watch this because - as she says at the end - if something is just said over and over and over endlessly people accept it and won't hear anything different.

Here is a summary:
She is a ex-army nurse, wounded, and was in military trauma care. She then went to work at a private (for profit) hospital. With New York declared the epicenter - she voluntarily went to what was being called the "epicenter of the epicenter" - a public (basically poor people) hospital in Queens. What she saw happening was so shocking she started recording/documenting it.

This is a summary:e
1, The hospital refused to do the fast-track covid-19 test (45 minutes) to the one taking 7 days.
2, Approximate half of those coming in were possibly covid-19 and half not.
3, Covid 19 positive and not covid 19 positive patients were put together in the same rooms - on every floor - something never done before for people with contagious diseasees.
4. Although even if testing negative repeatedly, they would be listed as covid-19.
5. Everyone would be given a massive variety of drugs to make them unconscious, strapped to the bed and automatically put on a ventilator.
6. She noted that being put on a ventilator was worth $29,000, plus medicare would pay for all the drugs.
7. The ventilators would be increasingly turned up until "blowing out" the person's lungs - literally with increasing pressure - until the person died.
8, The nurses were told not to do CPR - but doctors refused to sign any order to that effect.

Summary:
1. Anyone who had come to the private hospital she previously works for who had covid-19 lived - 100%.

2. 100% of people who came to the hospital she was at died - and a doctor told her they all are going to die - with 1 exception.
A drug addict having an anxiety attack was drugged down like the others to unconsciousness and despite the opposition of this nurse was put on a ventilator - waiting for her to leave the room for CODE (code red) for another patient. However, because he was a drug addict, the cocktail of drugs he was given did not keep him unconscious. He managed to get his arm free and pull out the ventilator tube himself - literally saving his own life.

She called what was going on there was outright murdering poor people - nearly all black and Latino with some Asian. However, because of immunity from liability orders there is nothing anyone can do about it.

She is also asked her feelings about the claim of the huge case counts in Florida. She does not believe the numbers are real or make any sense.

The video is over 1 hour long. If you have any empathy in you, it will make you emotionally sick. But you will learn what is really going on and why the radically higher numbers in the USA than other places. Everyone is counted as covid-19 positive even if not. They are killing poor people - particularly people of color - completely dehumanizing them in total apathy for profit - noting the extreme financial stress public charity hospitals are in. She does ask if the government really cares at all.

If you want to know the REAL truth - at least for the hospital aspect - watch this video. If you don't want the truth, watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC etc. By recording she does document what she is says.

You also may wish to consider it in the event you or anyone else you
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So much Joko FAIL.
 
joko104 said:
Yes, as a doctor he absolutely is OPPOSED to any nurse secretly recording what he says and videotaping what he does.

He demands in that video that if a nurse has a problem with a doctor, she obtain no evidence whatsoever - and then go met with the hospital - the hospital's lawyer present, the doctor - and the doctor's lawyer present - and a lawyer from the doctor's insurance company - for which having ZERO evidence as he demands, they tell her she misunderstood, that she's a liar, fired and blackballed from the medical profession.

That is what EVERY doctor wants of nurses - document NOTHING - and keep their mouth's shut. She talked about how nurses all know to just do what they are told without question.
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She had video evidence. Video is extremely easy to copy and keep in multiple places, so they would have a difficult time keeping it from becoming public if they conducted themselves as you suggest. This is not like 30 years ago when a person only had a video tape and had to duplicate the tape and give it to a friend. Digital video is much easier to share, which is why you see the video here.

The proper procedure is to document what is happening and go to HR. If HR does not handle it appropriately, she can contact New York's department of health. If she still feels her concerns are not being addressed, she can contact U.S. Health and Human Services. Instead, she went to social media and violated HIPAA, not to mention the ethical violations within her field by sharing the actions of colleagues publicly.
 
joko104 said:
I watched both videos. You did not. Nor will you. YOU are the person who will only hear one POV.

She didn't report it? Report it to who?

It took a huge amount of courage for her to post this online and she comments how nurses dare not challenge doctors - jeopardizing her entire career. Doctor Z is somewhat like Dr. Oz, more an actor, satirist and comedian.
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She is a nurse. She knows her internal and external chains of command. (from her unit leader, to DON, to CCO to CEO to state reporting agency., etc)

WIth her license she has a duty to report - you are calling it murder. How about the police.

He use of social media for this purpose was indefensible.
 
So all the doctors and all the nurses and all the techs and all the hospital personnel are all in a big conspiracy?

No wonder no one takes the "stuff" the OP posts seriously.
 
joko104 said:
I do not expect nearly any Democrat would be willing to watch this because - as she says at the end - if something is just said over and over and over endlessly people accept it and won't hear anything different.

Here is a summary:
She is a ex-army nurse, wounded, and was in military trauma care. She then went to work at a private (for profit) hospital. With New York declared the epicenter - she voluntarily went to what was being called the "epicenter of the epicenter" - a public (basically poor people) hospital in Queens. What she saw happening was so shocking she started recording/documenting it.

This is a summary:e
1, The hospital refused to do the fast-track covid-19 test (45 minutes) to the one taking 7 days.
2, Approximate half of those coming in were possibly covid-19 and half not.
3, Covid 19 positive and not covid 19 positive patients were put together in the same rooms - on every floor - something never done before for people with contagious diseasees.
4. Although even if testing negative repeatedly, they would be listed as covid-19.
5. Everyone would be given a massive variety of drugs to make them unconscious, strapped to the bed and automatically put on a ventilator.
6. She noted that being put on a ventilator was worth $29,000, plus medicare would pay for all the drugs.
7. The ventilators would be increasingly turned up until "blowing out" the person's lungs - literally with increasing pressure - until the person died.
8, The nurses were told not to do CPR - but doctors refused to sign any order to that effect.

Summary:
1. Anyone who had come to the private hospital she previously works for who had covid-19 lived - 100%.

2. 100% of people who came to the hospital she was at died - and a doctor told her they all are going to die - with 1 exception.
A drug addict having an anxiety attack was drugged down like the others to unconsciousness and despite the opposition of this nurse was put on a ventilator - waiting for her to leave the room for CODE (code red) for another patient. However, because he was a drug addict, the cocktail of drugs he was given did not keep him unconscious. He managed to get his arm free and pull out the ventilator tube himself - literally saving his own life.

She called what was going on there was outright murdering poor people - nearly all black and Latino with some Asian. However, because of immunity from liability orders there is nothing anyone can do about it.

She is also asked her feelings about the claim of the huge case counts in Florida. She does not believe the numbers are real or make any sense.

The video is over 1 hour long. If you have any empathy in you, it will make you emotionally sick. But you will learn what is really going on and why the radically higher numbers in the USA than other places. Everyone is counted as covid-19 positive even if not. They are killing poor people - particularly people of color - completely dehumanizing them in total apathy for profit - noting the extreme financial stress public charity hospitals are in. She does ask if the government really cares at all.

If you want to know the REAL truth - at least for the hospital aspect - watch this video. If you don't want the truth, watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC etc. By recording she does document what she is says.

You also may wish to consider it in the event you or anyone else you know contracts covid-19.

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Wow, you have redeemed yourself, made people forget all of our past transgressions, by putting in this well considered, thoughtful OP.

Congratulations.

You must feel an immense surge of pride.
 
joko104 said:
When any of us would agree to go on a ventilator for covid-19 is NEVER and when we could go to a PUBLIC hospital for covid-19 also is never. I would never go to a charity hospital where the government will pay tens of thousands of dollars to kill me. Actually, since there is essential NO treatment other than systemic there is little reason to go to a hospital. The government/FDA/AMA has so banned actually trying to save covid-19 patients at public government funded hospitals particularly - other than putting them on a ventilator - being in the hospital is more likely to kill you than save you.
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Are you speaking of our American medical conglomerate, the best in the world?
 
year2late said:
I am curious. If I am not mistaken, you have a daughter that is a nurse.

If she saw so much awfulness going on....would she not follow a chain of command. And if that chain was broken...she could report it to the state (etc).

She was doing her own investigation when it was clear she should have been doing her job and leaving the investigating to those within and outside of the hospital she worked for.

And posting crap on social media is a huge no no. Huge. It seems like she was caught making inflammatory posts on social media and was called out for it. In our facility people are fired on the spot if it contains any patient care related information. But most people are not stupid enough to do this. If her social media posts contained information that could be used to identify a specific patient - she would have he license suspended and be personally liable for up to $25 grand for each incident.

Going to social media and not following a chain of command (internal or external) tells me most of what I need to know about her credibility.

If the story is true or false...hopefully it will get legally investigated.

As a nurse of many decades....I smell something very fishy in her story. Very fishy. It deserves to be investigated. Let the chips fall either way.
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Since you did not watch the video you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
 
joko104 said:
Since you did not watch the video you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
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A person familiar with medical procedures and protocol does not need to watch all of the video to know that this is a huge breach of procedures and protocol. It could also result in criminal charges.
 
Of the attack by "Dr Z"

1. He is MOST furious that she was recording doctors and nurses (not naming any and blurring out faces) secretly. Of course he is. There is a reason why despite it would cost nothing to video/audo record surgeries, NO hospital does so. Remember the outrage when somehow a woman's cell phone was recording what the surgical team was saying - including about her?

2. He did no investigation of the hospital whatsoever.

3. He lies, claiming she should have talked to doctors - which she did and recorded.

4. He does not actually dispute anything she says. All he does is attack her.

He's just an arrogant doctor/comedian who sees nurses as dirt under his feet and himself as god that no one dare question and sure as hell never document or record what he does.
 
Xilnik said:
A person familiar with medical procedures and protocol does not need to watch all of the video to know that this is a huge breach of procedures and protocol.
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Yes, it is. "Procedures and protocols" are singularly for the purpose of preventing doctors and hospitals engaging in practices that could lead to malpractice lawsuits and lost of license.

She broke no NIPAA rules because she names no one and shows no one's face. The "protocol and procedures" she violated is breaking the code of silence that the truth is never exposed nor documented.
 
Xilnik said:
A person familiar with medical procedures and protocol does not need to watch all of the video to know that this is a huge breach of procedures and protocol. It could also result in criminal charges.
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There is a chain of command. If she went to her unit leader, don, cco, ceo and felt it was that bad and there was nothing done....she could have gone to the state (frankly, if she though murder was going on she should have started with the state and the police)

She has a license. She knew what she needed to do. She went to social media. In that move alone she showed her true colors.
 
bongsaway said:
Are you speaking of our American medical conglomerate, the best in the world?
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That is what it is according to you.

She explains that nearly all public (charity) hospitals in NYC have closed down for lack of funding as part of the problem. The hospital she was at was relying almost entirely on interns with zero experience and desperate for month to keep from closing. It appears that in NYC, medical care for the poor is not as important as green energy, more government bureaucrats, etc.

If you could actually THINK about what she is saying, it is a HUGE indictment of indigent medical care. BUT you can't even watch the video because all your truth comes from the richest (white) people on earth thru their television networks. Why would they give a damn about killing off poor people so their NYC penthouse property taxes don't go up?

Long before any of this, I have often posted about how public (charity) hospitals don't give a damn about poor people and do kill them off - given exactly personal knowledge examples.

BUT, since your apparent view is that indigent medical care in NYC is perfect, obviously nothing needs to be changed about the American medical care system.
 
joko104 said:
Yes, it is. "Procedures and protocols" are singularly for the purpose of preventing doctors and hospitals engaging in practices that could lead to malpractice lawsuits and lost of license.

She broke no NIPAA rules because she names no one and shows no one's face. The "protocol and procedures" she violated is breaking the code of silence that the truth is never exposed nor documented.
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Please point to the time segment in the video where she spoke with physicians. I watched this several weeks ago, and I just re-watched it. I saw her speak to nurses about non-COVID patients being placed on the COVID floor with the 7th floor being closed off. I never saw her question any physicians.
 
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