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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    You are insinuating that Governor Cuomo is actively participating in genocide. Maybe instead of wasting time ranting about it, you should write your congressperson and demand an investigation.
    He has no evidence of that claim and there is more evidence that Trump purposely downplayed the virus and delayed our testing ability so that it would spread to all 50 states and kill 100's of 1000's of Americans. It was either on purpose or Trump is a moron. Take your pick.

    Is this a genocidal maniac or just a blithering idiot?

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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What caused me to start this thread is a phone call from a nurse we know in a major city who just quit claiming they are deliberately killing people - poor people specifically.
    She said if someone is poor and elderly, particularly if poor and black, they put the patient on a ventilator specifically to kill the person, whom they figure probably only has a few years left to live anyway and likely has other issues.
    This is nothing new and not limited to covid. The poor (and especially the elderly) are often fast-tracked to the grave in hospitals.

    Among the 2,634 patients for whom outcomes were known, the overall death rate was 21%, but it rose to 88% for those who received mechanical ventilation, the Northwell Health COVID-19 Research Consortium reported.
    Correlation is not causation. It's as likely (actually, moreso) that the folks on ventilators aren't doing worse because they are on ventilators but are on ventilators because they are doing worse. In other words, once a person declines to the level of requiring mechanical ventilation, their chances of survival are already slim - and apparently the ventilator doesn't do all that much to turn that around.

    All pneumonia deaths - which is caused by a huge list of the most common medical conditions - are counted as covid-19 deaths. So this solved the problem of having so many terminally ill poor elderly people for some hospitals. Put them on a ventilator and kill them with it. Then the hospital doesn't have to spend another dollar on those old people and the Medicare will pay a bonus of $39,000 for having killed them.
    How many pneumonia deaths are there typically without covid?

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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    Stating facts that question government policy are now considered a conspiracy - at least to most progressives.

    Joe Biden hit the nail on the head with he said that Democrats will no longer accept facts. One only has to look at this forum to understand how accurate he was. Most refuse to discuss or debate facts - or even acknowledge they exist. It is not a conspiracy that the government is paying $39,000 to claim a person on a ventilator has covid-19 - and pay nothing if they list any other cause. Statistically, for most people put on a ventilator it is a death sentence - a death sentence that can replace tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars in loses to a fast $39,000 profit.

    Notice messages on this (and other) threads by progressives. Almost no progressive Democrats (anti-liberals) on the forum will ever even discuss facts. Rather, they only make personal attacks and try to divert the topic as they live in non-real bizarroland.

    Once again, in my opinion 2020 is the year the United States being the leader of the world - economically, culturally and in principles came to an end. The hardest hit victims:
    1. The middle class, also called the merchant class. The government at the state level literally outlawed the merchant class, turning all their income over to the richest people on earth.
    2. Working people that the government ordered into poverty to create a total dependency on socialism.
    3. The poor, who will be permanently slammed with increasing inflation on the basic necessities of life including food to cover the trillions and trillions of dollars of debt money given to the wealthiest people on earth.

    More than any other country, the United States was the obsticle to the international super rich taking over the world to establish corporate fascism they control primarily due to still having a politically influential middle/merchant class. That obsticle has now been eliminated by government non-democratic totalitarian government edicts all to benefit the richest people on earth. Having taken over control of the American government and the Democratic Party via their control of all info outlets, they now want to chip every American as if criminals so every action by every American can be tracked, recorded and analyzed micro second after micro second. Via their info outlets, they have progressives demanding to be chipped like criminals on bond or parole required to wear ankle trackers. Any opinion not approved of by the super rich is banned from all info outlets they totally own and control.

    The United States has been transformed to being a pathetic country of the most ignorant and stupid people on earth. Whatever happens to Americans in the greater scope of justice is just. The world is entering a new Dark Ages of worldwide oppression by the rich and powerful, with ordinary people reduced to serfs required to serve a small group of the wealthiest people on earth. Inflation will grew exponentially and Americans and the USA will increasingly be a beggar to the federal government - which will then be a beggar to China. The age of American exceptionalism is over.

    There is no free press, only propaganda outlets of the wealthiest people on earth for which there is a 24/7 bio-terrorism-for-profit-and-power endless collection of lies. A majority of Americans have become self-entitled, lazyass thieves of no ethics and are fundamentally narcassistic whiny beggars. American values and American exceptionalism are gone. Truth and facts are the enemy, a conspiracy.

    I posted some time ago, except for children, anything that happens to any American from covid-19, including dying, is not unjust. The wealthiest people on earth decided they can use the MSM (television, press and Internet) they totally own and control to steal trillions, to obliterate the middle class, and totally take over government and society. By offering a few crumbs of free money to Americans combined with their 24/7 bio-terrorism campaign they have fully taken over with the blessing of the majority of Americans.
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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    We each can only do what we can do. We have cut off any and all sales of what are considered covid-19 critically essential products to states that are still on full lock down and/or that provide government welfare and assistance to illegal immigrants. For of those we are the largest manufacturer and the only company with any inventory left - and we have massive quantities. Those primarily are substances for food processing at every level, plus used by laboratories, general sterilization and sanitizing, and water treatment. This has eliminated over half of our sales, which is very welcomed. In relation to the increasing hysterical phone calls? We stopped answering the phones.

    This company pioneered environmentally friendly and non-harmful sterilizers, sanitizers and preservatives that are the most powerful biocides against micro pathogens, particularly virus and bacteria in the world, including nano technology - and reducing the costs of production over 90+%. One, perfectly suitable as a food preservative, is 100% non-toxic to humans, never degrades and will kill any and all virus - including the 0.01% of super virus and bateria virtually impossible to kill and at a mere 1 part per million concentration. We have approximately 2,000,000 gallons at 1 ppm, while the few other makers have none, charge prices over 1000% higher and have a production ability of less than 100 gallons a month. We stopped further production and being 100% bio-friendly we could dump all inventory on the ground in a matter of minutes since it would cause no harm. It may come to that if we suspect there may be an attempt to seize the inventory. No other company has the production system - and production time is 3 months even if any other company had such a system and any clue how to do it. Development took years.

    Enjoy the toxic chemicals in your declining quality and increasingly expensive food. Few people know the FDA and USDA allow toxic preservatives in food - and allow not listing those ingredients on labels. For example, toxic chemicals are allowed in bottled water to prevent spoilage and it allowed to not list those chemicals on the label as just one example. A toxic chemical will replace our chemical with the government's blessing. So enjoy your bottled water with trace levels of poison in it. Most of you want health crisis and increasingly that wish is being granted including by the government. Increasingly, Americans will suffer horrific health issues in their old age - worse than even now. That's what happens when a person's body is continuously poisoned, with many of those then trapped in the person's body fat. Your food might as well have been grown on the ground of the Love Canal.

    A majority of you want a covid-19 and overall enduring health crisis. Have your crisis and enjoy your self pity, paranoia and hate you eagerly accept and want. You'll increasingly have more and more reasons to legitimately claim people should feel pity for you as you want.


    A majority of people have been paid to want a covid-19 and enduring crisis - so we'll do our part to grant their wish. I/we will not participate to legitimize the destruction of the United States. Anyway, it's back to researching if there are any other states we will cut off.
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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    I had mentioned a non-FDA approved protocol study was being done on 1200 volunteers, people positive with covid-19, of various ages and health conditions employing nano-technology and other methods none of which could be patented, so no drug company would ever consider exploring them. So far, there has not been one death and most are now past showing any symptoms. But it offers no benefit to people because none could be patent protected so no drug company nor the FDA would ever consider any of it. Rather, it all will just become part of the underground health network of which 10s of millions of Americans now are part of.
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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    Stating facts that contradict official narratives is censored here in the US. Like Judy Mikovits who worked with Fauci on the HIV matter decades ago.

    Censorship practiced by YouTube and FB is the modern and digital equivalent of book burning as practiced by the church and other authorities for centuries.

    The authorities cannot compete in the market of ideas, so they resort to censorship.

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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    He has no evidence of that claim and there is more evidence that Trump purposely downplayed the virus and delayed our testing ability so that it would spread to all 50 states and kill 100's of 1000's of Americans. It was either on purpose or Trump is a moron. Take your pick.

    Is this a genocidal maniac or just a blithering idiot?

    There is zero evidence Trump did anything to delay testing.

    The CDC has their own testing procedures in place for years and followed them until Trump got involved to increase testing
    What socialized medicine REALLY means, sometimes the mask slips!
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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    The "War on covid-19" really is the "War on the middle class and the poor." For example, food prices have gone up the highest ever since 1974 - and are increasingly rapidly. The super rich via their total control of all info outlets and their bio-terrorism campaign are definitely winning. But, then, most people are totally submissives and totally support their own destruction because they are ordered to on television and by their television actor-gods of the super rich.
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    Re: Killing covid-19 patients for profit

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    There is zero evidence Trump did anything to delay testing.

    The CDC has their own testing procedures in place for years and followed them until Trump got involved to increase testing
    Trump's undeniable downplaying and distrust of testing was quite evident. He was in no rush for a test and the CDC was not either. He kept the private sector resources bottled up for weeks after the CDC test failed.

    Defeating an invisible enemy like the coronavirus requires working diagnostics. But when the CDC’s original test kit failed, there was no Plan B. The nation’s private-sector biomedical establishment is world-class, but the administration kept these resources cordoned behind red tape as the CDC foundered. Precious weeks slipped by — amid infighting, ass covering, and wasted effort — and the virus slipped through the nation’s crippled surveillance apparatus, taking root in hot spots across the country, and in particular, New York City.

    The mismanagement cost lives. With adequate testing from the beginning, says Dr. Howard Forman, a Yale professor of public-health policy, “we would have been able to stop the spread of this virus in its tracks the way that many other nations have.” Instead, says Sen. Murray, the administration’s response was “wait until it’s too late, and then try and contain one of the most aggressive viruses that we’ve ever seen.”
    How Trump and the CDC Failed the COVID-19 Test - Rolling Stone
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