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    Re: pilotless aircraft

    Quote Originally Posted by Tbird19482 View Post
    LOL
    You might want to go back and figure out just who it was that laid the foundation , and did the footwork so all this may happen up to know
    It was those old losers you talk about
    Have a nice day
    Correction it should be NOW not know

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    Re: pilotless aircraft

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    They have driverless trucks in the South West right now.

    I don't know. I depends if it was a lot cheaper than with a pilot or not.

    Don't planes these days practically fly themselves? And with a pilot?
    A pilot friend of mine told me that the only time he touches the controls is when the aircraft is less than 200 feet from the ground.
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    Re: pilotless aircraft

    Quote Originally Posted by hado117 View Post
    pilotless aircraft have been in use since the 1940s, would any dpers be a passenger on a pilotless aircraft?
    The main reason we have pilots now is to safely drive the aircraft when it is on the tarmac around other aircraft, and for landings in a crosswind. It is far easier to automate a flying airplane than it is a driving vehicle.

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    Re: pilotless aircraft

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    The main reason we have pilots now is to safely drive the aircraft when it is on the tarmac around other aircraft, and for landings in a crosswind. It is far easier to automate a flying airplane than it is a driving vehicle.
    Iím sorry but that is spoken like someone who knows nothing about what flying an airplane is all about.

    Iím a flight instructor. Iíve been teaching people to fly planes on and off for 2 decades. Teaching you the mechanics of of taking off, flying around and then landing is simple. I could teach you that in a few hours.

    Thatís not what you pay pilots for. You pay them for those instances when things go to ****. You pay them for those things we canít currently teach electronics. You pay them for their judgement and decision making skills. For beinging years of experience to dealing with a problem that a software engineering team never envisioned. You pay them for their ability to improvise.

    And youíll keep paying them for that until we actually have try AI, not the brittle faux rule based systems we used now.
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    Re: pilotless aircraft

    It's the same deal as with pilotless automobiles. And, its usually the same group of people that also believe robots will take over from humans the majority of jobs in our nation to the point where humans will be subservient to robots.

    These people, who embrace these ideas are typically liberal democrats who have very little understanding of the actual mechanics of our economy and individual and specific jobs from within. These people embrace these ideas because they don't know any better and they don't care to actually educate themselves on the issues, they let the liberal media do that for them.

    Please take what any liberal democrat and/or socialist (very closely related) has to say with a grain of salt. There will never be pilotless airplanes. The "dumbing down" of the pilot, and this increased reliance on computers and autopilot systems has actually lead an increase in pilot error when they have to react to an emergency. Air France Flight 447 is a good example. Another good example is Aeroflot Flight 593, yes, there were mitigating factors (such as a kid in the cockpit), but ultimately, it was the crew who failed to recover from the "situation" due to lack of understanding of the automated systems on the plane. No doubt automated and computer controlled systems have most likely saved lives as well, I don't want you to think this is totally lopsided to one side, but the reality of the situation is that pilots are becoming more and more reliant on computerized systems to fly the plane, thus weakening their reflexes to a problem that could be easily correctable if the pilot was actually flying the plane.
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    Re: pilotless aircraft

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I’m sorry but that is spoken like someone who knows nothing about what flying an airplane is all about.

    I’m a flight instructor. I’ve been teaching people to fly planes on and off for 2 decades. Teaching you the mechanics of of taking off, flying around and then landing is simple. I could teach you that in a few hours.

    That’s not what you pay pilots for. You pay them for those instances when things go to ****. You pay them for those things we can’t currently teach electronics. You pay them for their judgement and decision making skills. For beinging years of experience to dealing with a problem that a software engineering team never envisioned. You pay them for their ability to improvise.

    And you’ll keep paying them for that until we actually have try AI, not the brittle faux rule based systems we used now.
    Fair point. I only mean that pilotless aircraft are going to come sooner than driverless cars.

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    Re: pilotless aircraft

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    Fair point. I only mean that pilotless aircraft are going to come sooner than driverless cars.
    I donít know. Maybe. Both present different sets of problems to be solved. The biggest with cars Iím guessing is dealing with everything around you and doing so in a way that doesnít cause massive pile ups. That canít be an easy problem to solve.

    With planes the most advanced jets can already handle all phases of flight. The problem is that the there are a huge number of problem scenarios many of which canít even be imagined let alone coded for.

    Be interesting to see how both get solved but Iím guessing neither will in my lifetime.
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    Re: pilotless aircraft

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I don’t know. Maybe. Both present different sets of problems to be solved. The biggest with cars I’m guessing is dealing with everything around you and doing so in a way that doesn’t cause massive pile ups. That can’t be an easy problem to solve.

    With planes the most advanced jets can already handle all phases of flight. The problem is that the there are a huge number of problem scenarios many of which can’t even be imagined let alone coded for.

    Be interesting to see how both get solved but I’m guessing neither will in my lifetime.
    I agree. And in response to the op, I would not be a passenger in an automated aircraft without a pilot rated in that aircraft also aboard, nor would I be a passenger in an automated vehicle without someone in the driver's seat.

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