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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    LOL. It's fine for you to advance evidence free CT's but U.S. Senators have an obligation to the public to not do so IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Why? I dont recall you criticizing democrat politicians for running their mouths about idiotic Russian CT's for the last three years.
    And the idiotic phone call impeachment based on a CT which followed.
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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    LOL. It's fine for you to advance evidence free CT's but U.S. Senators have an obligation to the public to not do so IMO.
    LOL. Sure Jasper. That's why Congress gave a standing ovation to Juan Guaido last month. That's why Congress passed the USA Patriot Act and the AUMF, because of their "obligation to the public."

    You seem very naïve sir.

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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He might be wrong, but he's not stupid. Have you ever looked at his resume? You'd be golden if you could accomplish just half of what he has.
    Tom Cotton the R senator from the Ozarks was a 1Lt in the unit I was in -- 3rd Inf Regiment The Old Guard of the Army at Ft. Myer next to the Penagon -- his tour in 3 IR TOG being sandwiched between his two tours in Iraq. This was well after I had served in the regiment.

    Still the word on Cotton among we members of The Old Guard Association of former members -- officer and enlisted together -- is that Cotton was the kind of officer in 3 IR TOG the rest of we officers and and also NCO laughed at. In short, 1LT Tom Cotton was a "****ing moron" same as the then SecState Tillerson spoke of Trump after Trump's super classified briefing at Pentagon in which Trump carried on as if he were Vladimir Putin's active KGB agent and representative.

    Cotton has become the enemy we once fought against throughout the 20th century and he and all of his Republican Party comrades who are likewise the same need to be dealt with accordingly to include by the loyal to the Constitution the 3 IR TOG of the Army in the Military District of Washington DC.
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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    It's reckless to throw out baseless speculation, when those four options are four out of hundreds or thousands of "options." Again, there's exactly as much evidence that Trump ordered the CIA to release the virus to cripple Chinese manufacturing as options 2, 3 and 4 thrown out by Cotton.

    I don't know why you're defending this. Seems to me we ought to expect more from a U.S. Senator than that kind of bull****. But that's the GOP in the Trump era where one man's ignorant opinion is just as believable as the scientists and others who have, you know, actually researched this virus.
    No...it isn't as valid to say that Trump ordered the CIA to release the virus and, no, there aren't hundreds or thousands of options. The 4 he put out are basically it. Those were things he said pretty early so it seems only 1 of them is off the table.

    I guess I'll turn it back over to you, why are you defending China so much? As if any information from them is worth more than the toilet paper I use.
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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    LOL. Sure Jasper. That's why Congress gave a standing ovation to Juan Guaido last month. That's why Congress passed the USA Patriot Act and the AUMF, because of their "obligation to the public."

    You seem very naïve sir.
    Surely you're smart enough to recognize the difference between commenting on what should happen versus what DOES happen, right? So tell me where I suggested Congress is infallible, does fulfill its obligations without fail, or similar? Oh, yeah, I didn't - I was commenting only on what should happen. That doesn't make one naive, just one with standards, however infrequently they're met.

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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishking View Post
    No...it isn't as valid to say that Trump ordered the CIA to release the virus and, no, there aren't hundreds or thousands of options. The 4 he put out are basically it. Those were things he said pretty early so it seems only 1 of them is off the table.
    Sure it is as valid, because there's no evidence for any of those last three options, which is the same amount of evidence there is for the CIA doing it. Zero = zero.

    Wilbur Ross explained the reason WHY we'd do this on TV - to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. China is too risky, etc. So the virus arguably serves the Trump administration's goals perfectly. It actually makes sense strategically for the CIA to undermine China this way.

    I guess I'll turn it back over to you, why are you defending China so much? As if any information from them is worth more than the toilet paper I use.
    I'm not defending China. What I expect is our Senators should have a higher standard of behavior when they comment on big issues like this than some dumbass drunk perched on a stool at the end of your local dive bar. And the reason for it is very simple and obvious to me - when the truth doesn't matter, which is the case with Sen. Cotton, how can we believe people like Sen. Cotton when they ARE backed by evidence.

    Trump is the perfect example. He lies so often about so many things that the only rational way to evaluate any of his statements is to assume he's lying unless and until we can verify his statement with other evidence. That's actually dangerous when POTUS and U.S. Senators have the credibility of ignoramus drunks. Any information from Trump has the same worth as used toilet paper.
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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    And the idiotic phone call impeachment based on a CT which followed.
    Nice job. Another one who didn't learn as a child that, BUT MOOMMMMMM!!!! HE DID IT TOO/FIRST!!!! isn't a defense.

    I'm a little worried about parenting these days. Maybe that worked for you guys as children. It didn't for me. If I tried it it made things worse, not better, and yet as adults you guys make sure this pathetic defense pops up on almost every thread....

    Any comment on the OP, Cotton's statements?

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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    There is a 50-50 chance that Cotton is correct. That it is the result of biological weapons research is most plausible.
    Using your odds then it is also just as likely ("50-50 chance") that the virus developed/mutated on its own in nature and is not the result of military bio weapon research.


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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    There is a 50-50 chance that Cotton is correct. That it is the result of biological weapons research is most plausible.
    Whole genome of the Wuhan coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, sequenced -- ScienceDaily

    There is zero chance. The virus has been sequenced. If it was man made, it would be known as the signs of human manipulation would be all over the sequence

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    Re: Sen. Cotton repeats coronavirus origins conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangmo View Post
    Tom Cotton the R senator from the Ozarks was a 1Lt in the unit I was in -- 3rd Inf Regiment The Old Guard of the Army at Ft. Myer next to the Penagon -- his tour in 3 IR TOG being sandwiched between his two tours in Iraq. This was well after I had served in the regiment.

    Still the word on Cotton among we members of The Old Guard Association of former members -- officer and enlisted together -- is that Cotton was the kind of officer in 3 IR TOG the rest of we officers and and also NCO laughed at. In short, 1LT Tom Cotton was a "****ing moron" same as the then SecState Tillerson spoke of Trump after Trump's super classified briefing at Pentagon in which Trump carried on as if he were Vladimir Putin's active KGB agent and representative.

    Cotton has become the enemy we once fought against throughout the 20th century and he and all of his Republican Party comrades who are likewise the same need to be dealt with accordingly to include by the loyal to the Constitution the 3 IR TOG of the Army in the Military District of Washington DC.
    Yeah, sure.
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