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My thoughts regarding ET's existance and visiting UFOs

Empirica

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"The Universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space."

Anybody recall this Carl Sagan quote? Also a line from Jodie Foster's script in the movie Contact?

Anyway; I agree with Carl and will even 'step it up' with IMO life is abundant throughout the Universe.

But 'intelligent life' is not abundant; only on rare occasions when against all odds, evolution hiccups.

And only when evolution hiccups is self-awareness realized and civilization follows...just like here.

I also believe these civilizations have been continuously occurring and disappearing since the big bang.

But before a civilization can initiate contact with others, it must successfully unravel the laws of physics.

Contact just in the Milky Way requires that two civilizations exist simultaneously and in galactic proximity.

And at least one civilization with the necessary level of technology to conquer the vastness of space and time.

The tremendous scale of such a hurdle as this, is why I doubt earth has ever been host to off-world visitors.

Well; that and the fact that most "evidence" claiming they have been here is overwhelmingly self-defeating.

Consider the countless claims of crashed UFOs, all of which supposedly crossed countless light years of space.

Robot Check
UFO Crashes, Retrievals and Government Cover-ups
2016 - by Gil Carlson
There are the testimonies of a number of whistle-blowers who claim to have participated in UFO crash retrieval operations or participated in a number of highly classified extraterrestrial related projects.

I believe that this is the most complete and revealing UFO book yet, it's like an encyclopedia of UFO crashes, close to 200 of them and covering several thousand years!

The level of technology necessary to galactic space travel suggests reports of crashed flying saucers are false.

I included this as an example of my point but if you think I'm wrong, speak up...now let's talk!
 
I tend to not accept these claims because the hard evidence is never revealed... all we seem to hear are accounts of eye witnesses. Then you read that the military or government needs to keep this secret because the world would "freak out"... whatever that means. I am not buying witness accounts, videos and so on. To convince me hard evidence like objects found which prove to be not of terrestrial origin.

If travel through time is possible... and not simply theoretical the same standard applies... let's see the hard evidence of these "craft"... which of course would be from our own future.

This all sounds to me like sci fi masquerading as investigative reporting.
 
Great food for thought! As you mention, societies that advance must unravel the laws of physics.

IMO there is more about the laws of physics that man does NOT know than what he does know. We are relatively ignorant.

Those who have visited us over vast expanses of time know far more about the laws of physics than we do.
 
Empirica said:
"The Universe is a pretty big place.

[...] now let's talk!
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the best evidence for UFOs, in my view, is to read all the books by the following authors:


Budd Hopkins

Dr. John Mack

But most importantly:

Dr. (PHD) David Jacobs


What all three have in common is that they regression hypnotists, they have have uncovered alien abduction experiences of hundreds of subjects, from all over the world. John Mack is a fellow of Harvard, and prominent in the field

The first two are deceased, but Dr. Jacobs is still with us and still lecturing.

There are many interviews and lectures on You Tube of the above, but pay special attention to Dr. David Jacobs ( a historian, not a medical doctor ).


Now then, all the objections one can give on this subject of hypnosis, Dr. Jacobs has a compelling rebuttal, so it is important to listen to ALL of his lectures, and once you done that, Then read his book :


"Walking Among Us".


What is compelling about abductions is that each of the above, their regressive therapies had revealed that the abductions reveal a predominant theme, they all pretty much tell the SAME story. The problem of 'confabulation' (human projection/fabrication) is dealt with via control commands, and Jacobs explains this.



1. Abductions are intergenerational ( If you are abducted, you have been many times, and so has your parents, their parents, and your children ).

2. Aliens examine abductees nervous system and procreation organs, more than anything else, aliens do not seem to be interested in our other aspects of physiology.

3. Aliens sometime implant tiny devices in subjects, some of which have been recovered and sent to labs with reports of unearthly isotopes, materials, nanotubes, etc

4. Aliens take from abductees sperm from males, ova from females, and they are creating a hybrid race by mixing these with their own DNA. This may seem impossible to human geneticists, unless, of course, humans have been an alien project all along, and we have alien DNA all along.

5. The first generation of hybrids are too alien-looking to be sent to earth. Aliens then take more human eggs/sperm and impregnate female hybrids and their progeny are done the same, until several generations produce a convincingly human hybrid, who are then sent to earth to live, and infiltrate human society. This is happening now.

6. The hybrids ( the passable human hybrids whom Jacobs calls "hubrids" ) are trained by abductees on all matters of how to be human. It takes a few years to accomplish this.

7. Hybrids and aliens communicate telepathically and can neurological engage humans to do their bidding, humans are helpless to resist this feature of aliens, which means aliens are superior to humans.

8. Aliens have phenomenal, almost super-hero like abilities, they can control humans, they can do amazing things, and their technology is vastly superior to human technology.

9. They seem to have, as an objective, eventual control of planet earth, and they are planning on a major "change" for us in the future, though abductees are not told the specifics of the nature of this change and what humans place will be in it, once the change is consummated.

10. Aliens are doing this clandestinely.

11. Abductions are happen all over the world, and one professional survey firm, after examining the data, concluded that a few million persons thus far have been abducted.

12. Alien ships can cloak themselves so they are invisible.

13. during an abduction, aliens are able to switch off neurologically neighboring humans and animals so the abduction is not noticed.


Of course, all of this sounds right out of X files, it sounds like science fiction, and totally crazy. True, that being said, but all I ask is you follow the above advice, and don't skimp, study the subject thoroughly, before you draw a conclusion.

See, looking at metal objects in the sky tells you nothing, really, about what aliens are up to. Abductees, however, can tell us what is going on inside the ships, what their agenda is, and why they are here.

That's the point.
 
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OscarLevant said:
the best evidence for UFOs, in my view, is to read all the books by the following authors:


Budd Hopkins

Dr. John Mack

But most importantly:

Dr. (PHD) David Jacobs


What all three have in common is that they regression hypnotists, they have have uncovered alien abduction experiences of hundreds of subjects, from all over the world. John Mack is a fellow of Harvard, and prominent in the field

The first two are deceased, but Dr. Jacobs is still with us and still lecturing.

There are many interviews and lectures on You Tube of the above, but pay special attention to Dr. David Jacobs ( a historian, not a medical doctor ).


Now then, all the objections one can give on this subject of hypnosis, Dr. Jacobs has a compelling rebuttal, so it is important to listen to ALL of his lectures, and once you done that, Then read his book :


"Walking Among Us".


What is compelling about abductions is that each of the above, their regressive therapies had revealed that the abductions reveal a predominant theme, they all pretty much tell the SAME story. The problem of 'confabulation' (human projection/fabrication) is dealt with via control commands, and Jacobs explains this.



1. Abductions are intergenerational ( If you are abducted, you have been many times, and so has your parents, their parents, and your children ).

2. Aliens examine abductees nervous system and procreation organs, more than anything else, aliens do not seem to be interested in our other aspects of physiology.

3. Aliens sometime implant tiny devices in subjects, some of which have been recovered and sent to labs with reports of unearthly isotopes, materials, nanotubes, etc

4. Aliens take from abductees sperm from males, ova from females, and they are creating a hybrid race by mixing these with their own DNA. This may seem impossible to human geneticists, unless, of course, humans have been an alien project all along, and we have alien DNA all along.

5. The first generation of hybrids are too alien-looking to be sent to earth. Aliens then take more human eggs/sperm and impregnate female hybrids and their progeny are done the same, until several generations produce a convincingly human hybrid, who are then sent to earth to live, and infiltrate human society. This is happening now.

6. The hybrids ( the passable human hybrids whom Jacobs calls "hubrids" ) are trained by abductees on all matters of how to be human. It takes a few years to accomplish this.

7. Hybrids and aliens communicate telepathically and can neurological engage humans to do their bidding, humans are helpless to resist this feature of aliens, which means aliens are superior to humans.

8. Aliens have phenomenal, almost super-hero like abilities, they can control humans, they can do amazing things, and their technology is vastly superior to human technology.

9. They seem to have, as an objective, eventual control of planet earth, and they are planning on a major "change" for us in the future, though abductees are not told the specifics of the nature of this change and what humans place will be in it, once the change is consummated.

10. Aliens are doing this clandestinely.

11. Abductions are happen all over the world, and one professional survey firm, after examining the data, concluded that a few million persons thus far have been abducted.

12. Alien ships can cloak themselves so they are invisible.

13. during an abduction, aliens are able to switch off neurologically neighboring humans and animals so the abduction is not noticed.


Of course, all of this sounds right out of X files, it sounds like science fiction, and totally crazy. True, that being said, but all I ask is you follow the above advice, and don't skimp, study the subject thoroughly, before you draw a conclusion.

See, looking at metal objects in the sky tells you nothing, really, about what aliens are up to. Abductees, however, can tell us what is going on inside the ships, what their agenda is, and why they are here.

That's the point.
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What you write is sounds like pure fantasy. There would have to be lots of evidence and I don't see any of it but your anecdotal references.

One question... why would aliens even "need" humans. If their interest was in the planet itself... why not exterminate all humans and move in? My take away from your post is that aliens are for some reason seeking to "take over" the planet... and presumably need a healthy eco-sphere to provide food a necessity of living things. Why not knock off the top of the "food chain" and replace with aliens? Surely they have the tech to introduce some fatal virus or similar to cleanse the planet of humans? Why bother with the crazy DNA schemes and stealth?

Conclusion.... what you write is illogical fantasy.
 
Empirica said:
"The Universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space."

Anybody recall this Carl Sagan quote? Also a line from Jodie Foster's script in the movie Contact?

Anyway; I agree with Carl and will even 'step it up' with IMO life is abundant throughout the Universe.

But 'intelligent life' is not abundant; only on rare occasions when against all odds, evolution hiccups.

And only when evolution hiccups is self-awareness realized and civilization follows...just like here.

I also believe these civilizations have been continuously occurring and disappearing since the big bang.

But before a civilization can initiate contact with others, it must successfully unravel the laws of physics.

Contact just in the Milky Way requires that two civilizations exist simultaneously and in galactic proximity.

And at least one civilization with the necessary level of technology to conquer the vastness of space and time.

The tremendous scale of such a hurdle as this, is why I doubt earth has ever been host to off-world visitors.

Well; that and the fact that most "evidence" claiming they have been here is overwhelmingly self-defeating.

Consider the countless claims of crashed UFOs, all of which supposedly crossed countless light years of space.

Robot Check
UFO Crashes, Retrievals and Government Cover-ups
2016 - by Gil Carlson
There are the testimonies of a number of whistle-blowers who claim to have participated in UFO crash retrieval operations or participated in a number of highly classified extraterrestrial related projects.

I believe that this is the most complete and revealing UFO book yet, it's like an encyclopedia of UFO crashes, close to 200 of them and covering several thousand years!

The level of technology necessary to galactic space travel suggests reports of crashed flying saucers are false.

I included this as an example of my point but if you think I'm wrong, speak up...now let's talk!
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I agree. I believe life is ubiquitous throughout the universe however alien life has never visited earth via spacecraft. The diatances are too vast. The only possible way life could make it here is if it was able to survive piggy backed on an asteroid. Even then travelling at light speed which no asteroid does for 100000 years would only cover our galaxy. Even from the ourskirts of our solar system which is our galactic front doorstep this process would take eons. Sorry everyone but no alien space craft has ever crashed here nor visited.
 
SanderO said:
What you write is sounds like pure fantasy. There would have to be lots of evidence and I don't see any of it but your anecdotal references.

One question... why would aliens even "need" humans. If their interest was in the planet itself... why not exterminate all humans and move in? My take away from your post is that aliens are for some reason seeking to "take over" the planet... and presumably need a healthy eco-sphere to provide food a necessity of living things. Why not knock off the top of the "food chain" and replace with aliens? Surely they have the tech to introduce some fatal virus or similar to cleanse the planet of humans? Why bother with the crazy DNA schemes and stealth?

Conclusion.... what you write is illogical fantasy.
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To arrive at where I'm at on the subject, you'd have to take the same journey I did. And, in fact, Dr. Jacobs addresses that point, specifically but you would never arrive to that point in his writings if you didn't take the journey in the first place, as I took.

The prescription for the journey was given in my post.

The only thing that would propel anyone to take that journey is curiosity. Without that, it would be a huge chore.


To answer your other questions, I answer it thus:

There is no way in hell we humans can know, decisively, ( until they are telling us, and they are not) what are the motivations, reasoning, etc.., of super advanced races of extraterrestials. Though I can think of some possibilities:

1. Why not exterminate.....

Answer: perhaps they are not cruel and murderous. Perhaps they want to prevent us from destroying what is a jewell of a planet ( compared to others, we just don't know)

Second answer? refer to the above just before #1.


2. Why would aliens "need" humans?

Answer: Why do humans "need" pets? Why does anyone need other than food, water, clothing and shelter? When you think about it, there could be a myriad of reasons to answer your question. Maybe humanity is an alien project, just has humans have projects of many types, beyond needing food, water, clothing and shelter.

One thing I would not do is assume what their motives are, there is no way of knowing, and they are not telling abductees what there motives are.
 
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AlphaOmega said:
I agree. I believe life is ubiquitous throughout the universe however alien life has never visited earth via spacecraft. The diatances are too vast.
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You are making the grandiose assumptions that alien space craft move through the universe in a linear fashion, using a propellant. They are not.

They use anti-gravity, time/space warping in some esoteric fashion we have yet to discover.

The evidence for visitation is rather overwhelming. You can start by watching Dr. Greer's DVD: "Unacknowledged", and that DVD is just scratching the surface. It's just military personel, air traffic controllers, scientists, engineers, law enforcement officers, and a wide assortment of credible persons, giving a wide variety of stories about their encounters.


Then you can follow the recommendations I made in my post, and to arrive where I"m at on the subject, you'll need a ton of curiosity to propel through the entire journey.


https://www.debatepolitics.com/cons...istance-and-visiting-ufos.html#post1071069380


Then listen to the many Stan Friedman lectures ( he's a nuclear physicist).
 
Empirica said:
"The Universe is a pretty big place. If it's just us, seems like an awful waste of space."

Anybody recall this Carl Sagan quote? Also a line from Jodie Foster's script in the movie Contact?

Anyway; I agree with Carl and will even 'step it up' with IMO life is abundant throughout the Universe.

But 'intelligent life' is not abundant; only on rare occasions when against all odds, evolution hiccups.

And only when evolution hiccups is self-awareness realized and civilization follows...just like here.

I also believe these civilizations have been continuously occurring and disappearing since the big bang.

But before a civilization can initiate contact with others, it must successfully unravel the laws of physics.

Contact just in the Milky Way requires that two civilizations exist simultaneously and in galactic proximity.

And at least one civilization with the necessary level of technology to conquer the vastness of space and time.

The tremendous scale of such a hurdle as this, is why I doubt earth has ever been host to off-world visitors.

Well; that and the fact that most "evidence" claiming they have been here is overwhelmingly self-defeating.

Consider the countless claims of crashed UFOs, all of which supposedly crossed countless light years of space.

Robot Check
UFO Crashes, Retrievals and Government Cover-ups
2016 - by Gil Carlson
There are the testimonies of a number of whistle-blowers who claim to have participated in UFO crash retrieval operations or participated in a number of highly classified extraterrestrial related projects.

I believe that this is the most complete and revealing UFO book yet, it's like an encyclopedia of UFO crashes, close to 200 of them and covering several thousand years!

The level of technology necessary to galactic space travel suggests reports of crashed flying saucers are false.

I included this as an example of my point but if you think I'm wrong, speak up...now let's talk!
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It's likely Donald Trump is the preamble to an alien invasion. Now, hear me out: the hatred of everyone around him - the antipathy towards all the non-despot nations in the world, and lets face it.. he doesn't even look human!
 
They come to "serve man"




who knows for sure if we have been visited or not. It seems about as possible as finding a live bigfoot.
 
SanderO said:
What you write is sounds like pure fantasy. There would have to be lots of evidence and I don't see any of it but your anecdotal references.

One question... why would aliens even "need" humans. If their interest was in the planet itself... why not exterminate all humans and move in? My take away from your post is that aliens are for some reason seeking to "take over" the planet... and presumably need a healthy eco-sphere to provide food a necessity of living things. Why not knock off the top of the "food chain" and replace with aliens? Surely they have the tech to introduce some fatal virus or similar to cleanse the planet of humans? Why bother with the crazy DNA schemes and stealth?

Conclusion.... what you write is illogical fantasy.
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I know this wasn't intended for me but if I may on Oscar's behalf?(but not his invasion)

It's very possible that ETs could be totally and completely alien to humans in every way?

Maybe exterminating life was never hardwired into their DNA and therefore was never an option?

Maybe to them; "abductions and infiltrating society with hybrids" is the absolute limit of their savagery?
 
How old is the universe? We have no idea. How old is the earth? A few billion years or so. What's to say there aren't intelligent civilizations that are a couple billion years more advanced than humanity? Do our laws of physics apply to that civilization? I think not.

How do we explain films and radar contacts from our own military? From NASA? For me there is just too much evidence intelligent life beside us exists. Billions of stars means even more billions of planets and more chances of intelligent life.

All these sightings can't be weather balloons or flairs.
 
OscarLevant said:
the best evidence for UFOs, in my view, is to read all the books by the following authors:


Budd Hopkins

Dr. John Mack

But most importantly:

Dr. (PHD) David Jacobs


What all three have in common is that they regression hypnotists, they have have uncovered alien abduction experiences of hundreds of subjects, from all over the world. John Mack is a fellow of Harvard, and prominent in the field

The first two are deceased, but Dr. Jacobs is still with us and still lecturing.

There are many interviews and lectures on You Tube of the above, but pay special attention to Dr. David Jacobs ( a historian, not a medical doctor ).


Now then, all the objections one can give on this subject of hypnosis, Dr. Jacobs has a compelling rebuttal, so it is important to listen to ALL of his lectures, and once you done that, Then read his book :


"Walking Among Us".


What is compelling about abductions is that each of the above, their regressive therapies had revealed that the abductions reveal a predominant theme, they all pretty much tell the SAME story. The problem of 'confabulation' (human projection/fabrication) is dealt with via control commands, and Jacobs explains this.



1. Abductions are intergenerational ( If you are abducted, you have been many times, and so has your parents, their parents, and your children ).

2. Aliens examine abductees nervous system and procreation organs, more than anything else, aliens do not seem to be interested in our other aspects of physiology.

3. Aliens sometime implant tiny devices in subjects, some of which have been recovered and sent to labs with reports of unearthly isotopes, materials, nanotubes, etc

4. Aliens take from abductees sperm from males, ova from females, and they are creating a hybrid race by mixing these with their own DNA. This may seem impossible to human geneticists, unless, of course, humans have been an alien project all along, and we have alien DNA all along.

5. The first generation of hybrids are too alien-looking to be sent to earth. Aliens then take more human eggs/sperm and impregnate female hybrids and their progeny are done the same, until several generations produce a convincingly human hybrid, who are then sent to earth to live, and infiltrate human society. This is happening now.

6. The hybrids ( the passable human hybrids whom Jacobs calls "hubrids" ) are trained by abductees on all matters of how to be human. It takes a few years to accomplish this.

7. Hybrids and aliens communicate telepathically and can neurological engage humans to do their bidding, humans are helpless to resist this feature of aliens, which means aliens are superior to humans.

8. Aliens have phenomenal, almost super-hero like abilities, they can control humans, they can do amazing things, and their technology is vastly superior to human technology.

9. They seem to have, as an objective, eventual control of planet earth, and they are planning on a major "change" for us in the future, though abductees are not told the specifics of the nature of this change and what humans place will be in it, once the change is consummated.

10. Aliens are doing this clandestinely.

11. Abductions are happen all over the world, and one professional survey firm, after examining the data, concluded that a few million persons thus far have been abducted.

12. Alien ships can cloak themselves so they are invisible.

13. during an abduction, aliens are able to switch off neurologically neighboring humans and animals so the abduction is not noticed.


Of course, all of this sounds right out of X files, it sounds like science fiction, and totally crazy. True, that being said, but all I ask is you follow the above advice, and don't skimp, study the subject thoroughly, before you draw a conclusion.

See, looking at metal objects in the sky tells you nothing, really, about what aliens are up to. Abductees, however, can tell us what is going on inside the ships, what their agenda is, and why they are here.

That's the point.
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What a load of crap!
 
lurchadams said:
It's likely Donald Trump is the preamble to an alien invasion. Now, hear me out: the hatred of everyone around him - the antipathy towards all the non-despot nations in the world, and lets face it.. he doesn't even look human!
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Poor Lurch; nobody else had a problem recognizing this thread as non-political.

Yep; what we have here is a classic case of TDS.(trump derangement syndrome)

You're welcome to return and join the discussion; providing you remain on topic.

And no hard feelings~ :peace
 
Empirica said:
Poor Lurch; nobody else had a problem recognizing this thread as non-political.

Yep; what we have here is a classic case of TDS.(trump derangement syndrome)

You're welcome to return and join the discussion; providing you remain on topic.

And no hard feelings~ :peace
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Boy, are you going to feel silly when you find out I'm right :2razz:
 
I believe that given the age of the universe and the possibilities that exist when one considers it size and possibility for random stuff to occur it is proven possible that life can arise when conditions allow it... and the life that does arise is suited to the conditions of the planet where it evolved. It takes a long time to evolve from a single cell, to an eco system.. to more complexity. I have no idea how many iterations and so on got us to the complex biosphere we have here on earth with intelligent life.

Space travel for living beings such as us holds insurmountable hurdles... but why even attempt it? curiosity is a reason... is it worth the cost? I would argue it is not. But if the laws of biology and physics as we know them today can be altered... (I doubt) then who knows what is possible. Odds are there is life occurring multiple times in the universe.

Now if earth has or is being visited... why? Aliens coming to earth may be simply curious or want something from earth. Surely they don't want to revert to a more primitive biology which has only managed to produce being capable of primitive and limited travel. So maybe they want an outpost... a place to colonize? They would have to be suited to this eco system. Why would they want to colonize in the first place? No one can answer these questions. Anyone can pose all manner of theories.

How to explain the all the UFO stuff? I suppose there are many explanations. One of them is there are lots of people who can't tell fantasy from reality. OK. What about vids and pics... that sort of proof? I suppose some of it may be captured terrestrial tech that was supposed to be secret.... created for some military purpose??? But with the thousands and thousands of sightings.... where is the hard evidence? Does "to exist" means there must be hard evidence?

There have been many?? hoaxes. This is not helping. I read about the fellow in Switzerland... Billy Meier with many many contacts. Why doesn't he have some souvenirs? His story sounds credible until the evidence part. Same with Roswell... where is the actual evidence?

Radar captures? Perhaps simply insertion into the technology... a means to foil radar.

There may be more life in the universe but the evidence for it visiting earth is just not there.
 
Yes, it seems cognitive dissonance really plays into the views on alien presence. Some do not want to understand because that would threaten their fragile world view of what's going on around them. Pity, but oh so human.
 
What's going on? tell us please.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I agree. I believe life is ubiquitous throughout the universe however alien life has never visited earth via spacecraft. The diatances are too vast. The only possible way life could make it here is if it was able to survive piggy backed on an asteroid. Even then travelling at light speed which no asteroid does for 100000 years would only cover our galaxy. Even from the ourskirts of our solar system which is our galactic front doorstep this process would take eons. Sorry everyone but no alien space craft has ever crashed here nor visited.
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You are assuming their knowledge of physics is at our level. No reason for assuming that.
 
Empirica said:


Contact just in the Milky Way requires that two civilizations exist simultaneously and in galactic proximity.

And at least one civilization with the necessary level of technology to conquer the vastness of space and time.

The tremendous scale of such a hurdle as this, is why I doubt earth has ever been host to off-world visitors.
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Yes, I also believe that the universe is so big, that in the Milky Way and other galaxies, there must be other intelligent species, but sadly, it's unlikely we'll ever see proof of it, given the vastness of space and the millions of years that likely go by between the rise and fall of these civilizations.

Your reasons are among the many others detailed in the Fermi Paradox.
 
Good4Nothin said:
You are assuming their knowledge of physics is at our level. No reason for assuming that.
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Sure there is. Stats. Given the size of the known universe if faster than light travel existed, worm hole travel, time travel back in time etc., then the odds are that we would have made contact with those species by now. I hope I am wrong but I seriously doubt it. I've not seen any factual evidence of aliens either. In a world where nearly every human has a cell phone with a 12mp camera, we should be seeing some up close pics daily. We arent. It reminds me of the bigfoot sightings. Same story, different fuzzy pics. They never did find bigfoot.
 
SanderO said:
What's going on? tell us please.
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You've been told, but you reject it.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink. You can lead a human to knowledge, but you cannot make him think.
 
GreatNews2night said:
Yes, I also believe that the universe is so big, that in the Milky Way and other galaxies, there must be other intelligent species, but sadly, it's unlikely we'll ever see proof of it, given the vastness of space and the millions of years that likely go by between the rise and fall of these civilizations.

Your reasons are among the many others detailed in the Fermi Paradox.
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Thanks, GN...My reasons were mostly adopted from a tv scientist on Discovery or maybe NatGeo.

"Fermi Paradox" sounds very interesting; I'll definitely google it...I'm guessing it's a website or book?
 
lurchadams said:
Boy, are you going to feel silly when you find out I'm right :2razz:
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Boy, are you going to feel silly when you find out I don't care so can we please stay on subject!
 
Throughout history, technological advancement has been accompanied by social advancement; thus, the idea of an evil alien visiting is counter to all available evidence. The notion only exists for science fiction.
 
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