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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    I wasn't talking about the risk of getting caught lying to the American people. You're right that politicians do this all the time. I was talking about the risk of murdering innocent American civilians. There is no way in hell anyone in their right mind would sign off on an operation to murder American citizens on American soil when the best case scenario is "it sparks a discussion on gun control." This makes no sense. One slip up and you and everyone involved is put to death. Get away with it, and you trigger nothing more than a national discussion and a week or two of media coverage. You know what this sounds like to me? Home-grown terrorism committed by some radicalized nutcase whose vision extends no farther than the last article he read on a nonsense propaganda website. And lo and behold, that's the conclusion that the FBI came to. Who could've guessed?
    The risk was minor to non-existent, because the American people (most of them) simply will not believe that their government would lie to them, as you here demonstrate.

    In fact, they believe all sorts of nonsense like this, from Las Vegas to Sandy Hook to Pulse to 911 to Parkland. It is easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him how he has been fooled.

    In fact, there was no risk at all. They are all asking the wrong questions.

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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    The risk was minor to non-existent, because the American people (most of them) simply will not believe that their government would lie to them, as you here demonstrate.

    In fact, they believe all sorts of nonsense like this, from Las Vegas to Sandy Hook to Pulse to 911 to Parkland. It is easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him how he has been fooled.

    In fact, there was no risk at all. They are all asking the wrong questions.
    I absolutely do believe my government would lie to me. What I don't believe is that my government is capable of keeping something like this secret. My government can't even keep secrets I wish would remain secret, like military advancements. Loose lips sink ships. Tell me how there were no loose lips in any of those extraordinarily sensitive supposed operations you suspect the government of orchestrating? Also explain to me how any member of the American armed forces is going to consent to so thoroughly violating his oath and firing on the American civilians (including women and children) whom he is sworn to protect? You are deep in the rabbit hole, my friend. Your theories just don't pass the smell test. Occam's Razor: Don't unnecessarily multiply entities. The explanation that requires the least speculation is usually the correct one.

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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    I absolutely do believe my government would lie to me. What I don't believe is that my government is capable of keeping something like this secret. My government can't even keep secrets I wish would remain secret, like military advancements. Loose lips sink ships. Tell me how there were no loose lips in any of those extraordinarily sensitive supposed operations you suspect the government of orchestrating? Also explain to me how any member of the American armed forces is going to consent to so thoroughly violating his oath and firing on the American civilians (including women and children) whom he is sworn to protect? You are deep in the rabbit hole, my friend. Your theories just don't pass the smell test. Occam's Razor: Don't unnecessarily multiply entities. The explanation that requires the least speculation is usually the correct one.
    Well they have not kept it a complete secret. I am not the only American who understands that numerous of these "mass shootings" are staged for political purposes. So it's not much of a secret anymore really, but the mainstream media works very hard to keep the official deception alive. So the net result is that a conspiracy of silence manifests. "Decent" people didn't talk about priests molesting boys, but it happened no matter what "decent" people talk about.

    "Decent" people don't talk about the many failures of narratives for Sandy Hook or 911, but those narratives fail anyway, no matter what "decent" people talk about.

    I'm not sure what you're trying to show mentioning soldiers not firing on US citizens, but they have, at least twice. Troops under Pershing fired on their comrades in arms a century ago on the Mall in Washington DC, firing on the complaining Brown Shoe Army guys wanting their wages. NG troops fired on college students at Kent State.

    Ours is not to wonder why, ours is but to do, and die.

    The rabbit hole is where the public has been taken many decades ago, by misinformation and downright deception by the government and media.

    William Casey of CIA: "when everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts."

    Wake up and smell the napalm sir. Our governing document went up in smoke a long time ago.

    Sorry I can't provide a link, but back when the 911 Commission issued its final report to the public, one poll was conducted and it showed that 85% of respondents thought that "the government is hiding something".
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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    The risk was minor to non-existent, because the American people (most of them) simply will not believe that their government would lie to them, as you here demonstrate.

    In fact, they believe all sorts of nonsense like this, from Las Vegas to Sandy Hook to Pulse to 911 to Parkland. It is easier to fool a man than it is to explain to him how he has been fooled.

    In fact, there was no risk at all. They are all asking the wrong questions.
    The question we should be asking is “why does TD72 believe every single claim he reads about mass shooter conspiracy theories?”
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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    CBS is mainstream media. It is the same "news organization" that told me lies about the San Bernardino shooting a few years back. They told the same lies about WMD and the other pro-war propaganda of the Bush administration. They told and retell the falsehoods about WTC attacks.

    Why should I believe them now when so many other facts contradict their claims?

    There's got to a place between believing everything you read in MSM and believing everything you read in the library of bat**** crazy, tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy bukkakists. I mean, you're replacing a suspect version of reality, that absolutely requires constant fact checking, I'll give you that, with a political nerd on bathsalts' version of reality.
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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrump View Post
    hmmm??

    Conspiracy theorists and QAnon believers linked Hillary Clinton to two shot state senators, 4 NYPD suicides, and the death of her brother. A month later, no links whatsoever have emerged and her arrest has not happened...
    Similar to the Obama birth certificate lie. It served its racist purpose, no longer needed.

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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by OlNate View Post
    There's got to a place between believing everything you read in MSM and believing everything you read in the library of bat**** crazy, tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy bukkakists. I mean, you're replacing a suspect version of reality, that absolutely requires constant fact checking, I'll give you that, with a political nerd on bathsalts' version of reality.
    Yes Nate, there must be such a place, even if it exists only in your mind.

    Place faith in the pronouncements of known liars at your own risk. Thanks, I'll pass, ESPECIALLY when the facts contradict the claims of your known liars.

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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeverTrump View Post
    hmmm??

    Conspiracy theorists and QAnon believers linked Hillary Clinton to two shot state senators, 4 NYPD suicides, and the death of her brother. A month later, no links whatsoever have emerged and her arrest has not happened...
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    Re: What Happened to all the people HRC Killed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    Yes Nate, there must be such a place, even if it exists only in your mind.

    Place faith in the pronouncements of known liars at your own risk. Thanks, I'll pass, ESPECIALLY when the facts contradict the claims of your known liars.
    But what's your alternative? Click-bait snake oil salesmen? The tinfoil hat brigade?

    I'm quite certain we get lied to all the time, and if there is an issue that's important to you beyond indulging in outrage, and if there's something you can actually do about the situation, then it's to the point where it's on you to gather the truth yourself, if you want to be 100% sure....but how many of those things are there, really? What makes you so sure that these sources of yours aren't planted there to muddy the waters further?

    No point stressing the stuff you can't impact, bud...believing in conspiracies might help explain a world one is not happy or satisfied with, but ultimately it's a waste of time. Even if you have all kinds of "secret knowledge" the rest of us sheeple don't have or won't believe, unless you have an army or two at your disposal, it's all moot anyway.
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