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[W:94]Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

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After doing a search (I was convinced someone started a thread about this) I found no thread relating to this development from just 2 months ago, so I decided to start one. Note: I'm a 9/11 skeptic, which merely means that I don't believe the US government has shared information that the American public should be entitled to, with regards to 9/11. I don't have any theory besides that to debate.

NEW YORK — For nearly two decades, one of the most overlooked and little known arrests made in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks was that of the so-called “High Fivers,” or the “Dancing Israelis.” However, new information released by the FBI on May 7 has brought fresh scrutiny to the possibility that the “Dancing Israelis,” at least two of whom were known Mossad operatives, had prior knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center.

According to a former high-ranking American intelligence official who spoke to the Jewish Daily Forward in 2002, the FBI concluded in its investigation that the five Israelis arrested “were conducting a Mossad surveillance mission and that their employer, Urban Moving Systems of Weehawken, NJ, served as a front.” At least two of the men arrested were determined to have direct links to the Mossad after their names appeared in a CIA-FBI database of foreign intelligence operatives. According to one of their lawyers, one of the men, Paul Kurzberg, had previously worked for the Mossad in another country prior to arriving in the United States. Another of those arrested, Oded Ellner, subsequently stated on Israeli TV that the five Israelis had been in New York at the time “to document the event,” meaning the attack on the World Trade Center.

The FOIA release of the photos is notable because responses to prior FOIA requests to the Department of Justice, which oversees the FBI, had previously claimed that all of the photos taken by the Israeli nationals had been destroyed in January 2014. The photos themselves are heavily redacted, making it impossible to see the Israelis’ facial expressions. However, previously declassified yet heavily redacted FBI reports state that the Israelis are “visibly happy” in nearly every photo, even when the burning towers are in the background. The photos released are also not original copies and instead appear to be photocopies of photocopies of the original pictures. In addition, of the original 76 pictures developed by authorities from the camera in the Israelis’ possession, only 14 were released.

Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

FOIA Release of 9/11 Dancing Israelis thru the FBI | Criminal Record | Federal Bureau Of Investigation

What's interesting to me, is the fact the FBI lied for many years about destroying the Israeli's camera rolls, then had to cough up the pictures, and STILL only released 14/76 photos taken by the 'Israeli movers'. I'm less interested in the photo of one of the men holding a lighter to the sky on 9/10/2001, as I don't know what this proves, but it seems important to the author.

Why aren't we allowed to see the full 76 photo set? It's going on 18 years since 9/11, and the best the FBI can do regarding the obvious Israeli intelligence operation is to release 14 photocopies of the original photos? Ridiculous.
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

After doing a search (I was convinced someone started a thread about this) I found no thread relating to this development from just 2 months ago, so I decided to start one. Note: I'm a 9/11 skeptic, which merely means that I don't believe the US government has shared information that the American public should be entitled to, with regards to 9/11. I don't have any theory besides that to debate. What's interesting to me, is the fact the FBI lied for many years about destroying the Israeli's camera rolls, then had to cough up the pictures, and STILL only released 14/76 photos taken by the 'Israeli movers'. I'm less interested in the photo of one of the men holding a lighter to the sky on 9/10/2001, as I don't know what this proves, but it seems important to the author. Why aren't we allowed to see the full 76 photo set? It's going on 18 years since 9/11, and the best the FBI can do regarding the obvious Israeli intelligence operation is to release 14 photocopies of the original photos? Ridiculous.

Well tRump claims he saw dancing Muslims- so which is it???? :peace
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Well tRump claims he saw dancing Muslims- so which is it???? :peace

TDS inspired derail attempt by post #2

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TDS inspired derail attempt by post #2

Not at all, no tRump devotional syndrome here.... :roll:

It seems some conflicting 'evidence' is at hand. Freckless Leader claims Muslims danced in the streets and now you claim the Jews were cutting a rug. I'd imagine once again the corrupt and deep state elements in the FBI (tRump says the FBI is riddled, so it MUST be true) are attempting to break the alliance tRump has with fellow crook Nuttyyahoo and it took them a little while to create the false flag....

Do you REALLY think Israeli agents took down the World Trade Center???? Or are you just huffing and puffing at the FBI like a good follower of tRump??? :peace
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

After doing a search (I was convinced someone started a thread about this) I found no thread relating to this development from just 2 months ago, so I decided to start one. Note: I'm a 9/11 skeptic, which merely means that I don't believe the US government has shared information that the American public should be entitled to, with regards to 9/11. I don't have any theory besides that to debate.



What's interesting to me, is the fact the FBI lied for many years about destroying the Israeli's camera rolls, then had to cough up the pictures, and STILL only released 14/76 photos taken by the 'Israeli movers'. I'm less interested in the photo of one of the men holding a lighter to the sky on 9/10/2001, as I don't know what this proves, but it seems important to the author.

Why aren't we allowed to see the full 76 photo set? It's going on 18 years since 9/11, and the best the FBI can do regarding the obvious Israeli intelligence operation is to release 14 photocopies of the original photos? Ridiculous.
Where's the doctored blurb tube vid on this?
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Most of this story is old news indeed. Most of the details were covered by Christopher Bollyn on 9/18/01, and are covered on page 1 of his book.

Regarding censored photos, you should consider informing yourself about Kurt Sonnenfeld, the FEMA photographer at 911 and Operation Tripod.

His photos were so damning to the official story that he quickly became Persona Non Grata.
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

After doing a search (I was convinced someone started a thread about this) I found no thread relating to this development from just 2 months ago, so I decided to start one. Note: I'm a 9/11 skeptic, which merely means that I don't believe the US government has shared information that the American public should be entitled to, with regards to 9/11. I don't have any theory besides that to debate.



What's interesting to me, is the fact the FBI lied for many years about destroying the Israeli's camera rolls, then had to cough up the pictures, and STILL only released 14/76 photos taken by the 'Israeli movers'. I'm less interested in the photo of one of the men holding a lighter to the sky on 9/10/2001, as I don't know what this proves, but it seems important to the author.

Why aren't we allowed to see the full 76 photo set? It's going on 18 years since 9/11, and the best the FBI can do regarding the obvious Israeli intelligence operation is to release 14 photocopies of the original photos? Ridiculous.


I've been saying this for a very long time. I started threads about it 8 or 9 years ago when the FBI reports were released detailing those arrests. In those reports were descriptions of the acts that were documented in the photographs, so we really didn't have to actually see the photographs to know what went on.

More importantly, I posted the "Breaking News" video clip (that aired one time before it was removed and never shown again) of the report that 2 "Israelis" (Mossad agents) were arrested after being pulled over near the Washington bridge driving a truck "full of explosives". The FBI held them for 17 days before they were quietly released and deported. This was covered up and never reported on again. I believe a retraction was made and it was something like a statement saying that it turned out to be an "innocent delivery van".

The problem with that is that too much information was initially given in the report for a retraction to be allowed. When you analyze what was said forensically, the semantics make a retraction impossible. The statements of "tons of explosives" and "truck full of explosives" pretty much closed the window on any attempted retraction. So, because Mossad are a bunch of bumbling bafoons that botch up every false flag (and there are many), we know the Joos or Zionists were behind 911. You know - Israel, our "trusted allies" - and because they covered it up and instead blamed Bin Laden knowing this was not true, our own government were most likely working in tandem with them from inception. After all, isn't Mossad our "go to" guy for false flags?

This isn't the first time they were caught working in tandem with the bumbling bafoons. Let's not forget how our government covered up the USS Liberty attack for them as well. People would say "no way possible - too many people would have to be in on it". This is not true at all because once you analyze every aspect of it, you'll find that only a few people in just the right places are needed. The rest are just people following orders who don't want to lose their job.
 
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I've been saying this for a very long time. I started threads about it 8 or 9 years ago when the FBI reports were released detailing those arrests. In those reports were descriptions of the acts that were documented in the photographs, so we really didn't have to actually see the photographs to know what went on.

More importantly, I posted the "Breaking News" video clip (that aired one time before it was removed and never shown again) of the report that 2 "Israelis" (Mossad agents) were arrested after being pulled over near the Washington bridge driving a truck "full of explosives". The FBI held them for 17 days before they were quietly released and deported. This was covered up and never reported on again. I believe a retraction was made and it was something like a statement saying that it turned out to be an "innocent delivery van".

The problem with that is that too much information was initially given in the report for a retraction to be allowed. When you analyze what was said forensically, the semantics make a retraction impossible. The statements of "tons of explosives" and "truck full of explosives" pretty much closed the window on any attempted retraction. So, because Mossad are a bunch of bumbling bafoons that botch up every false flag (and there are many), we know the Joos or Zionists were behind 911. You know - Israel, our "trusted allies" - and because they covered it up and instead blamed Bin Laden knowing this was not true, our own government were most likely working in tandem with them from inception. After all, isn't Mossad our "go to" guy for false flags?

This isn't the first time they were caught working in tandem with the bumbling bafoons. Let's not forget how our government covered up the USS Liberty attack for them as well. People would say "no way possible - too many people would have to be in on it". This is not true at all because once you analyze every aspect of it, you'll find that only a few people in just the right places are needed. The rest are just people following orders who don't want to lose their job.

A charming fantasy.
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

After doing a search (I was convinced someone started a thread about this) I found no thread relating to this development from just 2 months ago, so I decided to start one. Note: I'm a 9/11 skeptic, which merely means that I don't believe the US government has shared information that the American public should be entitled to, with regards to 9/11. I don't have any theory besides that to debate.



What's interesting to me, is the fact the FBI lied for many years about destroying the Israeli's camera rolls, then had to cough up the pictures, and STILL only released 14/76 photos taken by the 'Israeli movers'. I'm less interested in the photo of one of the men holding a lighter to the sky on 9/10/2001, as I don't know what this proves, but it seems important to the author.

Why aren't we allowed to see the full 76 photo set? It's going on 18 years since 9/11, and the best the FBI can do regarding the obvious Israeli intelligence operation is to release 14 photocopies of the original photos? Ridiculous.

You know who else had prior knowledge of 9/11?

Condi Rice.
 
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Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

So what did she do about it?

Her rabbi told her to keep her mouth shut.
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Idk, this is your theory. Please tell me.

She did nothing. Who knows maybe she was briefed by Massad and she ignored them too, just like she did Tenet and Richard Clarke.

One of the newest words in the Hebrew language is, "le condel". It means "to do nothing."
 
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Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Step one. Proof that she knew about it.

People knew.

The brief warned, 36 days before the September 11 attacks, of terrorism threats from Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda, including "patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for a hijacking" of US aircraft.

Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US - Wikipedia

And others wished...

PNAC_circ.jpg


Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia

The document claiming that America needed to start destabilizing the middle east, and advocated violent overthrow of nation states, was signed by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and many future Bush era cabinet members and administration members. Looks like they got their 'pearl harbor styled attack'. Well how about that.
 
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You know who else had prior knowledge of 9/11?

Condi Rice.

I don't doubt that.
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

People knew.



And others wished...

PNAC_circ.jpg


Project for the New American Century - Wikipedia

The document claiming that America needed to start destabilizing the middle east, and advocated violent overthrow of nation states, was signed by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and many future Bush era cabinet members and administration members. Looks like they got their 'pearl harbor styled attack'. Well how about that.

Fiction.
 
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Lol, not a very convincing argument zyzygy. Nothing in my post was fiction. Care to explain?
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

I've been saying this for a very long time. I started threads about it 8 or 9 years ago when the FBI reports were released detailing those arrests. In those reports were descriptions of the acts that were documented in the photographs, so we really didn't have to actually see the photographs to know what went on.

More importantly, I posted the "Breaking News" video clip (that aired one time before it was removed and never shown again) of the report that 2 "Israelis" (Mossad agents) were arrested after being pulled over near the Washington bridge driving a truck "full of explosives". The FBI held them for 17 days before they were quietly released and deported. This was covered up and never reported on again. I believe a retraction was made and it was something like a statement saying that it turned out to be an "innocent delivery van".

The problem with that is that too much information was initially given in the report for a retraction to be allowed. When you analyze what was said forensically, the semantics make a retraction impossible. The statements of "tons of explosives" and "truck full of explosives" pretty much closed the window on any attempted retraction. So, because Mossad are a bunch of bumbling bafoons that botch up every false flag (and there are many), we know the Joos or Zionists were behind 911. You know - Israel, our "trusted allies" - and because they covered it up and instead blamed Bin Laden knowing this was not true, our own government were most likely working in tandem with them from inception. After all, isn't Mossad our "go to" guy for false flags?

This isn't the first time they were caught working in tandem with the bumbling bafoons. Let's not forget how our government covered up the USS Liberty attack for them as well. People would say "no way possible - too many people would have to be in on it". This is not true at all because once you analyze every aspect of it, you'll find that only a few people in just the right places are needed. The rest are just people following orders who don't want to lose their job.

The moving van didn't contain explosives when it was stopped and searched by a NJ State Trooper. What it did contain was several expensive cameras, several thousand dollars in cash, and 5 Israelis who were clearly not working in low skilled labor as movers. In this respect, yes they seem to have been arrogant, or just dumb in how they presented themselves as blue collar laborers from Israel, and also said they were 'tourists'. The moving company was clearly a fraud, which served as cover for an Israeli intelligence operation in the USA. But the USA looks much more incompetent by comparison; our intelligence apparently had no idea about the Israeli spy ring operating out of a moving company in NJ. If it weren't for the elderly lady who called 911 after seeing the Israelis celebrating the attacks on the World Trade Center, we would have never heard of any of this.
 
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Some involved with Able Danger might disagree with your claim that "our intelligence apparently had no idea".

Able Danger - Wikipedia

I'm neutral on that, but there is no question Israeli fingerprints are all over the events of 9/11
 
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From the link provided by T72
"In December 2006, a sixteen-month investigation by the US Senate Intelligence Committee concluded "Able Danger did not identify Mohamed Atta or any other 9/11 hijacker at any time prior to September 11, 2001", and dismissed other assertions that have fueled 9/11 conspiracy theories"

One can believe the Committee's conclusion or not. If not, what evidence is there that the conclusion is wrong?
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

From the link provided by T72
"In December 2006, a sixteen-month investigation by the US Senate Intelligence Committee concluded "Able Danger did not identify Mohamed Atta or any other 9/11 hijacker at any time prior to September 11, 2001", and dismissed other assertions that have fueled 9/11 conspiracy theories"

One can believe the Committee's conclusion or not. If not, what evidence is there that the conclusion is wrong?

None.
 
Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

from the link provided by t72
"in december 2006, a sixteen-month investigation by the us senate intelligence committee concluded "able danger did not identify mohamed atta or any other 9/11 hijacker at any time prior to september 11, 2001", and dismissed other assertions that have fueled 9/11 conspiracy theories"

one can believe the committee's conclusion or not. If not, what evidence is there that the conclusion is wrong?

cyoa.
 
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