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whatisanopinion

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Ive always had a hard time siding with anything, it seems to black and white for me.. so when it comes to conspiracy theories, ive never even entertained them. Thats being said, i had a friend who made me watch some youtube short film about the sandy hook school shooting as a giant ploy to advance the political agenda of gun laws. I have to say, at face value, that **** is captivating. Has anyone seen it? Im well aware that you can edit everything to make it look like anything, but damn they did a good job. And when so many people dont even understand modern technology and editing, i see how things like this take off. Anyone have any thoughts? Im still wondering about certain scenes and factoids from the clip!
 
The event is so well known a person would need to be very distanced geographically or mentally to not be shocked sober by the claim. No amount of gas-light, soothing music, chanting or even video hypnosis could lull one into entertaining the grotesque joke of a conspiracy theory.

And not funny.
 
Its 15 miles from where I live. I know people who were affected, who lost children. I'm mutual friends with a teacher there (er, former now).

Not a hoax.
 
Ever wonder why you don't hear about this happening in other Countries that have gun restrictions. It's not that they don't have crazy people, they just don't give crazy people free access to weapons.
 
Gee, I wonder if someone could have edit those old news films to make it look fake to support their agenda?
 
Alex Jones said it was a hoax so of course his flock of sheeple believe it was.
 
GodlessBrandy said:
Ever wonder why you don't hear about this happening in other Countries that have gun restrictions. It's not that they don't have crazy people, they just don't give crazy people free access to weapons.
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Good, they don't do that in the US either.
 
GodlessBrandy said:
Ever wonder why you don't hear about this happening in other Countries that have gun restrictions. It's not that they don't have crazy people, they just don't give crazy people free access to weapons.
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Other countries also have problems with assaults and murder because humans are sinful by nature. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will not stop the lawless from committing violence.
 
marke said:
Other countries also have problems with assaults and murder because humans are sinful by nature. Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will not stop the lawless from committing violence.
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True, however, it is a fact, at least in First World Nations, that the Countries with the strictest gun controls have the lowest murder rate. But it's pointless and absurd to think American's can even go that route, guns are so embedded in your culture and mentality, that imposing strict gun laws would be pointless.
 
whatisanopinion said:
Ive always had a hard time siding with anything, it seems to black and white for me.. so when it comes to conspiracy theories, ive never even entertained them. Thats being said, i had a friend who made me watch some youtube short film about the sandy hook school shooting as a giant ploy to advance the political agenda of gun laws. I have to say, at face value, that **** is captivating. Has anyone seen it? Im well aware that you can edit everything to make it look like anything, but damn they did a good job. And when so many people dont even understand modern technology and editing, i see how things like this take off. Anyone have any thoughts? Im still wondering about certain scenes and factoids from the clip!
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You can mo longer trust your own eyes with video. Anything can be faked now
 
vegas giants said:
You can mo longer trust your own eyes with video. Anything can be faked now
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Ahhhh makes me long for the good ole' days when all we had were history books full of lies and blurry photos of UFO's and the Loch Ness Monster
 
whatisanopinion said:
Ive always had a hard time siding with anything, it seems to black and white for me.. so when it comes to conspiracy theories, ive never even entertained them. Thats being said, i had a friend who made me watch some youtube short film about the sandy hook school shooting as a giant ploy to advance the political agenda of gun laws. I have to say, at face value, that **** is captivating. Has anyone seen it? Im well aware that you can edit everything to make it look like anything, but damn they did a good job. And when so many people dont even understand modern technology and editing, i see how things like this take off. Anyone have any thoughts? Im still wondering about certain scenes and factoids from the clip!
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Can you think of any other examples in which the surviving family members of any given "mass shooting" were flown to Washington on Air Force One to provide testimony to Congress? That happened with Sandy Hook.

Can you imagine a reason for why workers at a demolition company would all have to sign Non-disclosure Agreements regarding what they saw inside the building they eventually demolished?
 
Thoreau72 said:
Can you imagine a reason for why workers at a demolition company would all have to sign Non-disclosure Agreements regarding what they saw inside the building they eventually demolished?
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Yes, I can.
Clearly you have not worked on major accident investigations.
 
mike2810 said:
Yes, I can.
Clearly you have not worked on major accident investigations.
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I seriously doubt he has worked a day in his life
 
whatisanopinion said:
Ive always had a hard time siding with anything, it seems to black and white for me.. so when it comes to conspiracy theories, ive never even entertained them. Thats being said, i had a friend who made me watch some youtube short film about the sandy hook school shooting as a giant ploy to advance the political agenda of gun laws. I have to say, at face value, that **** is captivating. Has anyone seen it? Im well aware that you can edit everything to make it look like anything, but damn they did a good job. And when so many people dont even understand modern technology and editing, i see how things like this take off. Anyone have any thoughts? Im still wondering about certain scenes and factoids from the clip!
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"captivating" is not the right word

It's sickening that sociopaths would go so far as to harass and threaten the families of murdered little kids because they are so obsessed with their precious toys that anything and everything is seen as a threat.
 
Sandy Hook Hoaxers are ignorant and disgusting individuals. The misery these crackpots have caused is beyond contemptible.
 
And the news today says YouTube is now censoring any videos that question the official narrative.

Censorship displays weakness on the part of the censor. :mrgreen:

Play those heartstrings!
 
Thoreau72 said:
And the news today says YouTube is now censoring any videos that question the official narrative.

Censorship displays weakness on the part of the censor. :mrgreen:

Play those heartstrings!
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And you believe anyone on anything without any evidence as long as they blame the ebil US govt.
 
Thoreau72 said:
And the news today says YouTube is now censoring any videos that question the official narrative.

Censorship displays weakness on the part of the censor. :mrgreen:

Play those heartstrings!
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Please provide a source. I found some on new community guidelines for extremism. None of the articles stated anything about blocking all vids that goes against an "official narrative".


imo, you made it up or your interpretation is wrong .
 
whatisanopinion said:
Ive always had a hard time siding with anything, it seems to black and white for me.. so when it comes to conspiracy theories, ive never even entertained them. Thats being said, i had a friend who made me watch some youtube short film about the sandy hook school shooting as a giant ploy to advance the political agenda of gun laws. I have to say, at face value, that **** is captivating. Has anyone seen it? Im well aware that you can edit everything to make it look like anything, but damn they did a good job. And when so many people dont even understand modern technology and editing, i see how things like this take off. Anyone have any thoughts? Im still wondering about certain scenes and factoids from the clip!
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People who honestly think Sandy Hook was a hoax or false flag attack are idiots. People like Alex Jones who spread the idea that these tragedies that make into the news are hoaxes are douche bag **** sucking pieces of ****. Can you imagine if you were at a funeral of a loved one and some lunatic with a tin foil hat was telling everyone the government murdered that person or that person's death was a hoax. It's a super douche bag thing to do.
 
GodlessBrandy said:
True, however, it is a fact, at least in First World Nations, that the Countries with the strictest gun controls have the lowest murder rate. But it's pointless and absurd to think American's can even go that route, guns are so embedded in your culture and mentality, that imposing strict gun laws would be pointless.
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Guns and private gun pwnership has been a part of our country since its inception. Up until a few decades ago, kids were taking their guns to school in gun racks and going hunting after class or participating in school shooting clubs. We didnt have a problem with mass shootings. Its not guns or the availability of guns. If you are actually concerned about the problem, then you have to address what has changed over the last 20-30 years. The destruction of families, the abandonment of faith and belief systems, the general pussification of our youth that starts with everyone gets a trophy and life is supposed to be fair and you have a right to not be offended. We have to look at the trends that have caused so many of todays youth to lose their identities, to be placed on psychotropic meds, to be so completely incapable of handling life that murdering others becomes a viable option. You have to look at society and the trends of the last 3 decades to see what actually went wrong.

Its NOT guns. Gun owners are by and large TREMENDOUSLY responsible. In a nation of 120 MILLION gun owners, we have on average 2-3 incidents of mass shootings a year. Are there things people can do BETTER? Sure. But guns are not the problem.
 
GodlessBrandy said:
Ever wonder why you don't hear about this happening in other Countries that have gun restrictions. It's not that they don't have crazy people, they just don't give crazy people free access to weapons.
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True, there was not a mass shooting in either Norway or France. Free access does not include committing capital murder of one's own mother in order to obtain a firearm. If getting the gun subjects you to the death penalty, calling it "free access" is a bit dishonest
 
Thoreau72 said:
Can you think of any other examples in which the surviving family members of any given "mass shooting" were flown to Washington on Air Force One to provide testimony to Congress? That happened with Sandy Hook.

Can you imagine a reason for why workers at a demolition company would all have to sign Non-disclosure Agreements regarding what they saw inside the building they eventually demolished?
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That Sandyhook victims's family members were/are being used as pawns by the anti gun movement has no relevance in claiming that someone other than one homicidal nutcase (Lanza) committed those murders. Does the anti gun movement exploit such shootings? of course they do, just as they push the parents of slain kids to file bogus lawsuits against Remington etc. Did the anti gun movement orchestrate or instigate this slaughter? that's barking loon idiocy for someone to claim the movement did that.
 
It took effort and there is great competition in this space, but this Conspiracy Theory has become the worst of the worst coming up with all sorts of asinine reasoning for why this was done or worse that the entire thing did not happen as suggested.

Now saying this is all about advancing the gun debate suggests we have found new levels of absurdity.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Can you think of any other examples in which the surviving family members of any given "mass shooting" were flown to Washington on Air Force One to provide testimony to Congress? That happened with Sandy Hook.
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Anti-2nd amendment trash in office are always looking to exploit a tragedy to **** on the 2nd amendment and we had a anti-2nd amendment trash president in office at the time. It doesn't make that tragedy that they were trying to exploit fake or staged. It just means those scum in office who flew those families in were just as much douche bag **** sucking pieces of ****(what else would call people trying to exploit grieving families to **** on a constitutional right) as the ones claiming the tragedy itself was fake or staged.
 
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