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Good4Nothin

Good4Nothin

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I've heard that drug companies pay people to advocate for their drugs online. Like for example here!

I noticed that any time I criticized the overuse of drugs on any online forum or blog, the same people would defend the drug companies by posting angry and insulting comments. They almost seem like they are following a script, because their comments don't seem thoughtful or rational.

So I think maybe this conspiracy is real, not just a theory.

In the general public, lots of people have become skeptical about the drug companies. But online debates are dominated by drug advocates.

https://www.amazon.com/Overdosed-Am...B72CFNA/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=
 
Good4Nothin said:
I've heard that drug companies pay people to advocate for their drugs online. Like for example here!

I noticed that any time I criticized the overuse of drugs on any online forum or blog, the same people would defend the drug companies by posting angry and insulting comments. They almost seem like they are following a script, because their comments don't seem thoughtful or rational.

So I think maybe this conspiracy is real, not just a theory.

In the general public, lots of people have become skeptical about the drug companies. But online debates are dominated by drug advocates.

https://www.amazon.com/Overdosed-Am...B72CFNA/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=
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At MTurk, I have seen people paid to post reviews at various sites, including Amazon.
 
NWO_Spook said:
Disagree = shill every time.
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No, it is not simply disagreement. It's angry and insulting. And it's always pro-drug. It's as if you see no reasons to be even slightly skeptical of the drug companies. You see them as all good, no exceptions.

You can't honestly believe that.

And I have seen it at other forums, with different people. It's like they are scanning the forum constantly for any criticism of any drug.
 
I know there are a lot of CT shills. Some of the most despicable are anti-vaxxers who cause misery to so many, usually in order to pump up some pseudo science cures for whatever. We also have flat earther shills who try to drum up sales of their books. People like Alex Jones (a despicable turd ball) who admits he flogs untrue CTs like Sandy Hook in order to make money and even on this forum. We had Capt. Bob who came here spreading pure BS about 911 started get nasty with those who pointed out he was full of it then got banned, but before his banning he boasted about how much money he was making off of 911.

Yeah there are shills and Conspiracy theories are thick with them.
 
Good4Nothin said:
I've heard that drug companies pay people to advocate for their drugs online. Like for example here!

I noticed that any time I criticized the overuse of drugs on any online forum or blog, the same people would defend the drug companies by posting angry and insulting comments. They almost seem like they are following a script, because their comments don't seem thoughtful or rational.

So I think maybe this conspiracy is real, not just a theory.

In the general public, lots of people have become skeptical about the drug companies. But online debates are dominated by drug advocates.

https://www.amazon.com/Overdosed-Am...B72CFNA/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=
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FFS....yeah, your tinfoil hat approach to healthcare has nothing to do with it, anyone calling out anti-vaxxers for peddling their unscientific, delusional, fraudulent and dangerous garbage MUST be getting paid. :roll:

Look, I'm sure you are well intentioned, and very passionate about all of this, I have no doubt of that. You think you're helping people. If you really want to help people, give your head a shake, and get yourself, and your kids, if you have any, into the doctor and get your damn shots.
 
Good4Nothin said:
No, it is not simply disagreement. It's angry and insulting. And it's always pro-drug. It's as if you see no reasons to be even slightly skeptical of the drug companies. You see them as all good, no exceptions.

You can't honestly believe that.

And I have seen it at other forums, with different people. It's like they are scanning the forum constantly for any criticism of any drug.
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It's angry because your delusions put society at risk. If you want to be crazy about something that doesn't impact everyone else, knock yourself out. Be vegan, or something. But what you advocate for puts everyone at risk. You should have a clear understanding of that. It's not because we owe anything to "Big Pharma" (ooooooooo), it's because we don't want your stupidity to kill anyone. No mystery beyond that, I'm afraid.
 
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OlNate said:
It's angry because your delusions put society at risk. If you want to be crazy about something that doesn't impact everyone else, knock yourself out. Be vegan, or something. But what you advocate for puts everyone at risk. You should have a clear understanding of that. It's not because we owe anything to "Big Pharma" (ooooooooo), it's because we don't want your stupidity to kill anyone. No mystery beyond that, I'm afraid.
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It will not kill anyone if the government starts requiring real scientific safety testing of vaccines. It won't kill anyone if they stop giving more and more unnecessary vaccines to newborns and infants.

It won't kill anyone if drug companies have liability for damage caused by their vaccines.
 
Dang, where do I sign up?
 
OlNate said:
:lamo I swear, I just can't anymore.
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Man, that would be a dream job. I might actually put some more effort into it. Does one get payed by the word? In that case, I can be very verbose. Or perhaps by the hour. Type sloooowly.
 
Lovebug said:
Man, that would be a dream job. I might actually put some more effort into it. Does one get payed by the word? In that case, I can be very verbose. Or perhaps by the hour. Type sloooowly.
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Right? Maybe a bonus for extensive alliteration or rhyming?
 
Good4Nothin said:
No, it is not simply disagreement.
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In my case, it is. I have studied the subject for quite some time and I have probably forgotten more than I can remember on the subject.

It's angry and insulting.
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That's your belief. I find your inability to prove your points an insult to my intelligence.

And it's always pro-drug.
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No, it's always sceptical of unsourced and unsupported claims from the unqualified. Try not to think like a paranoid conspiracy theorist.

It's as if you see no reasons to be even slightly skeptical of the drug companies. You see them as all good, no exceptions.
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Incorrect. I'm sceptical of unsupported and irrational claims.

You can't honestly believe that.
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I don't, but I have also investigated the anti-vaxxer claims and found them lacking some years before I read your claims.

And I have seen it at other forums, with different people. It's like they are scanning the forum constantly for any criticism of any drug.
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So you believe. Some are simply sceptics and find the debunking of conspiracy theories interesting.

Now, if you knew anything about me before you arrived at conclusions without evidence (I see a pattern here), you would know that I'm a member of the sceptics society in my country. I subscribe to the Randi foundation and have a deep interest in the debunking of conspiracy theories, and your 'shill' nonsense can work both ways. Let's have a look:

1. Your threads are always on the same subject, that is, to denigrate the medical fraternity.

2. You do not provide evidence and base your arguments (well, attacks) upon mere assertion.

So you a shill for some anti-vaxxer group.

Do you see how easy it is to simply attack those who disagree with baseless accusations?
 
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Ok, since all you drug lovers seem to be paying attention, I want to describe you and tell me if I'm right. You are:

1. Non-religious, and non-spiritual. You don't believe in anything "supernatural."

2. You consider yourself to be more educated than the average American.

3. You do not believe that nature is intelligent. You believe that life evolved by a random process, with no purpose.

4. You believe that human scientists are, in principle, capable of understanding all aspects of matter and of life. It might take a while, but it will happen.

5. You believe, that, in principle, medical science is capable of finding cures for all diseases. It might take a while, but it will happen.

So -- do I have you all figured out?? If not, what do you think I got wrong?
 
NWO_Spook said:
Oh God...the conspiracy theory 'shill' angle.
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Here of all places, where both sides continue to be fairly well balanced and folks who get heated in the political sections are friends elsewhere, having pleasant conversations in the middle of an argument, it is a virtual certainty that there are professionals here.

Because this is the kind of environment where messaging can get deconstructed. It isn't an echo chamber of confirmation bias like I've heard from many here most sites like this are.

The troll farm folk were engaged in this activity. Cambridge Analytica too. False personae spreading and tending to manufactured messages.

Do any product research and you'll see the same review posted under different names in different places. Amazon has "verified purchaser" reviews.

Persuasion science is ubiquitous. Marketing, public relations and political science are all behavioral disciplines. Psychology and cognition. Each multi-billion dollar segments of our economy.

You don't think some of that Citizen's United money makes its way here? Why the hell wouldn't it?
 
Good4Nothin said:
I've heard that drug companies pay people to advocate for their drugs online. Like for example here!

I noticed that any time I criticized the overuse of drugs on any online forum or blog, the same people would defend the drug companies by posting angry and insulting comments. They almost seem like they are following a script, because their comments don't seem thoughtful or rational.

So I think maybe this conspiracy is real, not just a theory.

In the general public, lots of people have become skeptical about the drug companies. But online debates are dominated by drug advocates.

https://www.amazon.com/Overdosed-Am...B72CFNA/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=&qid=
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Ummm the majority of those reviews were 5 star reviews in favor. There were two negative reviews that I saw. How is that dominating?
 
pinqy said:
Ummm the majority of those reviews were 5 star reviews in favor. There were two negative reviews that I saw. How is that dominating?
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I posted that link to show that lots of people are critical of the over-use of drugs. But not here, or at other online forums where I have posted on that subject.
 
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