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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    What seems like nonsense to you might not seem like nonsense to someone else.

    And vaccine safety has NOT been settled by science. The government and Big Drug want us to believe that ALL vaccines are ALWAYS safe for EVERYONE. We have no reason to believe that.

    So now it's hard to find unbiased vaccine information in Google. Thanks a lot Big Tech.
    What about the 99.999% of people who have already been vaccinated and suffered no ill effects, and also never contract whatever malady they were vaccinated against? Isn't that reason to believe that vaccines are both safe and effective? Isn't the fact that Measles was eradicated before the anti-vaxxer movement spread across social media a good reason to believe that vaccines are beneficial to society?

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueScotsman View Post
    Vaccines are not always safe all the time and science does not say that. It is very rare though for extremely adverse reactions to happen. People still should be getting vaccinated, no question, so yes these people are wrong and harmful to society. If enough people start endangering the public, their children should be made to obtain vaccines by law.

    I would love to see what YOU think is an unbiased source.
    Big Science says ALL vaccines are SAFE, with EXTREMELY RARE adverse reactions. We know we can trust the research because most of it is funded by Big Drug.

    How the heck can you be so sure adverse reactions are extremely rare? It used to be easy to find controlled research and patient reports stating otherwise.

    There is no such thing as an unbiased source. I deal with that by reading sources with various biases and perspectives.

    If you only trust the official mainstream sources, you will get ALL bias ALL the time.

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    Big Science says ALL vaccines are SAFE, with EXTREMELY RARE adverse reactions. We know we can trust the research because most of it is funded by Big Drug.

    How the heck can you be so sure adverse reactions are extremely rare? It used to be easy to find controlled research and patient reports stating otherwise.

    There is no such thing as an unbiased source. I deal with that by reading sources with various biases and perspectives.

    If you only trust the official mainstream sources, you will get ALL bias ALL the time.
    Again, show me your alleged unbiased sources which vindicate your objection to the scientific consensus. Not interested in your opinions.

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    What about the 99.999% of people who have already been vaccinated and suffered no ill effects, and also never contract whatever malady they were vaccinated against? Isn't that reason to believe that vaccines are both safe and effective? Isn't the fact that Measles was eradicated before the anti-vaxxer movement spread across social media a good reason to believe that vaccines are beneficial to society?
    Vaccines are over-used, as are many other products of Big Drug.

    We DO NOT KNOW how many people have been harmed by vaccines! The purpose of most of the research has been to show they are safe.

    We know that autoimmune diseases have become more common. There are many possible reasons, since our food and environment are so unnatural. How do you know vaccines have nothing to do with it?

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueScotsman View Post
    Again, show me your alleged unbiased sources which vindicate your objection to the scientific consensus. Not interested in your opinions.
    I JUST SAID there are no unbiased sources! We have to read sources with various perspectives, which I have done.

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    I JUST SAID there are no unbiased sources! We have to read sources with various perspectives, which I have done.
    And what is your scientific and medical background to properly interpret this information?

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    Vaccines are over-used, as are many other products of Big Drug.

    We DO NOT KNOW how many people have been harmed by vaccines! The purpose of most of the research has been to show they are safe.

    We know that autoimmune diseases have become more common. There are many possible reasons, since our food and environment are so unnatural. How do you know vaccines have nothing to do with it?
    How do you know smart phones have nothing to do with it? Or windmills? Attributing a rise in auto-immune diseases to vaccines without some empirical link is no different than attributing it to anything else. Blaming vaccines for auto-immune diseases or autism based on debunked theories circulating on social media is an irrational knee jerk reaction with harmful real world consequences. The reality is: Almost everyone who gets vaccinated suffers no adverse effects that can be linked to said vaccines. Companies do not want to get sued, therefore they do not create vaccines and offer them to the public unless there is plenty of good science that shows that they are safe and that they work as advertised.

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by lwf View Post
    How do you know smart phones have nothing to do with it? Or windmills? Attributing a rise in auto-immune diseases to vaccines without some empirical link is no different than attributing it to anything else. Blaming vaccines for auto-immune diseases or autism based on debunked theories circulating on social media is an irrational knee jerk reaction with harmful real world consequences. The reality is: Almost everyone who gets vaccinated suffers no adverse effects that can be linked to said vaccines. Companies do not want to get sued, therefore they do not create vaccines and offer them to the public unless there is plenty of good science that shows that they are safe and that they work as advertised.
    I did NOT attribute it to vaccines! I said we DO NOT KNOW.

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by TrueScotsman View Post
    And what is your scientific and medical background to properly interpret this information?
    Oh. So if we don't have a medical degree, we must not question anything the mainstream medical and drug industry tell us. Just follow whatever they say and have blind trust.

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    Re: Information control

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    I did NOT attribute it to vaccines! I said we DO NOT KNOW.
    We don't know if smart phones are causing auto-immune diseases or autism either, correct?

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