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Thinking about 9/11

How about Rodriguez who was in the basement when the alleged nuke went off. Has he developed similar health issues?:lamo

You'll never get an honest answer as it destroys his nuclear/radiation nonsense. I'm surprised he hasn't put you on ignore yet for asking tough questions.
 
You'll never get an honest answer as it destroys his nuclear/radiation nonsense. I'm surprised he hasn't put you on ignore yet for asking tough questions.

I have asked him before and got no real answer. It is known that the EPA blew the initial call in saying the air and work environment was safe. It as not. Asbestos, lead, plastic, concreate, etc in the dust was not healthy. The same goes for some other structure fires or wildland fires. The burned area can be toxic.

Was in CA in 87 on fires. The smoke was so thick for days you could not see across a street. Was that way for weeks because on an inversion. Many went home with lung infections.
 
Didn't think he would have. So Thoreau72 lied yet again. I would expect nothing less from him at this point.

He does that a lot, I think he is the only person who ever believes his own nonsense.
As long as he never tries to pilot a plane he will remain mostly harmless
 
No Mike, the radiation claim is for you to pretend it doesn't exist. For you to convince yourself that the cancers seen at WTC are just run-of-the-mill cancers. Denial is not a river in Egypt. :mrgreen:
 
No Mike, the radiation claim is for you to pretend it doesn't exist. For you to convince yourself that the cancers seen at WTC are just run-of-the-mill cancers. Denial is not a river in Egypt. :mrgreen:

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Another non response. You go ahead and believe it was nukes.
Yep, run of the mill cancer caused by the known carcinogen makeup of the dust. Has nothing to do with radiation.

Still waiting for you to tell us how Rodriquez was able to escape with no radiation illness being the basement when the nukes when off. Or how wildland and structural firefighters who never worked the WTC have the same health issues that firefighters who did work the site. Explain why medical research does not support your diagnosis?

My brothers and sisters in fire would be highly insulted by your posts.
 
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Another non response. You go ahead and believe it was nukes.
Yep, run of the mill cancer caused by the known carcinogen makeup of the dust. Has nothing to do with radiation.

Still waiting for you to tell us how Rodriquez was able to escape with no radiation illness being the basement when the nukes when off. Or how wildland and structural firefighters who never worked the WTC have the same health issues that firefighters who did work the site. Explain why medical research does not support your diagnosis?

My brothers and sisters in fire would be highly insulted by your posts.

Oh dear, another appeal to emotion.
 
Oh dear, another appeal to emotion.

I take it you are not going to address the questions asked. That is ok because if you really answered them truthfully you would find out that your are wrong.

- Provide the video where Stewart's said the illness was caused by radiation --- You didn't. I provided a vid of his testimony and pointed out what he said. No radiation.

- Explain how Rodriquez and others in the basement have not gotten sick from radiation. They were so close to the nuke going off. You didn't answer.

- Explain how some firefighters who never worked the WTC site have the same illness as those who have became ill from working the WTC site, You didn't answer.

Of course you will say they are stupid questions or requests as a dodge. In reality, it is because if you did answer truthfully your belief you hold about nukes would fall apart. That is something you most likely could not accept. So keep lying to yourself if it makes you content.
 
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I take it you are not going to address the questions asked. That is ok because if you really answered them truthfully you would find out that your are wrong.

Repetitive asking of silly questions already answered deserves no response.
 
Repetitive asking of silly questions already answered deserves no response.

I nailed it on your response. The reason you will not answer the questions is it would make you realize your views of nukes on 9/11 is wrong. You cannot accept that.

You deserve no more of my time.
 
Answered by you with blatant lies!

T72 believes a response is the same as answering a question. He is so sure 9/11 was a nuclear event it doesn't matter what science and evidence indicates. The health of first responders is a concern of mine. It is not isolated to the WTC site. The same illnesses are showing up all over the country in firefighters who never worked the WTC site. Guess they all got nuked somehow according to some. :mrgreen:
 
T72 believes a response is the same as answering a question. He is so sure 9/11 was a nuclear event it doesn't matter what science and evidence indicates. The health of first responders is a concern of mine. It is not isolated to the WTC site. The same illnesses are showing up all over the country in firefighters who never worked the WTC site. Guess they all got nuked somehow according to some. :mrgreen:

Why do we bother with that member? Clearly he is completely disinterested in honest debate and he only posts to yank one's chain. I don't believe for a moment he thinks that silly nuke story has any merit. No one with a brain could swallow that nonsense and he merely baits us hook, line and sinker with it every time. I really think if we ignored his moronic stories, they would die off naturally, and we'd starve him of his cheap thrills.
 
Why do we bother with that member? Clearly he is completely disinterested in honest debate and he only posts to yank one's chain. I don't believe for a moment he thinks that silly nuke story has any merit. No one with a brain could swallow that nonsense and he merely baits us hook, line and sinker with it every time. I really think if we ignored his moronic stories, they would die off naturally, and we'd starve him of his cheap thrills.

See post 110.
 
Why do we bother with that member? Clearly he is completely disinterested in honest debate and he only posts to yank one's chain. I don't believe for a moment he thinks that silly nuke story has any merit. No one with a brain could swallow that nonsense and he merely baits us hook, line and sinker with it every time. I really think if we ignored his moronic stories, they would die off naturally, and we'd starve him of his cheap thrills.

Lock me up Spook! Do me like western governments are doing to Julian Assange.

Yes, in a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act. :cool:

If the government fables you defend had any facts to support them, you would be able to present them in a rational manner.

Instead, proving again the wisdom of Plato's observation that when the debate is lost, slander becomes the tactic of the loser. Slander and censorship, eh Spook? :lol:
 
Lock me up Spook! Do me like western governments are doing to Julian Assange.

Don't be so dramatic.

Yes, in a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act. :cool:

LOL Nobody loves you like you do.

If the government fables you defend had any facts to support them, you would be able to present them in a rational manner.

I've done that and you've evinced a complete lack of interest. You just want to have a laugh stringing people along with your silly ideas.

Instead, proving again the wisdom of Plato's observation that when the debate is lost, slander becomes the tactic of the loser. Slander and censorship, eh Spook? :lol:

No. I don't believe for a moment you believe in such asinine ideas as Prager's nukes. You are just yanking chains and having fun with people in an overly dramatic fashion. I simply cannot take you seriously.
 
If the government fables you defend had any facts to support them, you would be able to present them in a rational manner.

Okay. So you know I would never peddle the official line hopefully, and I couldn't imagine how to make it sound rational anyhow. Sorry if you've already said, but how many devices do you think would need to be placed in the building to make it fall the way it did ?
 
Okay. So you know I would never peddle the official line hopefully, and I couldn't imagine how to make it sound rational anyhow. Sorry if you've already said, but how many devices do you think would need to be placed in the building to make it fall the way it did ?

He doesn't answer questions.
 
Okay. So you know I would never peddle the official line hopefully, and I couldn't imagine how to make it sound rational anyhow. Sorry if you've already said, but how many devices do you think would need to be placed in the building to make it fall the way it did ?

I am certainly no authority as to how nuclear devices might be employed for such a mission, but Dimitri Khazelov is studied, and offers a theory: 9/11 Nuclear Demolition of The WTC - by Dimitri Khalezov

I can speculate of course, and I would say that since there were 3 hot spots recorded by AVIRIS flown over WTC by NASA and JPL, perhaps 3 devices were employed.

However my gut feeling is that more than that were employed. Maybe the hot spots were records of devices used in the ground? Something had to keep that iron molten for 90 days.

The lateral ejection of massive pieces on the higher and middle floors, such as that impaled into the American Express building suggest that. Huge energy was required to move those pieces in that manner.

Also the report issued by NYC medical examiner shows that only 293 bodies were found intact, and out of 19906 remains recovered, 4735 were identified, and 200 of those pieces belonged to the same person.

That means one individual was blown into 200 different pieces.

We can only speculate as to exactly how they were placed and what size they were, but what is certain is that a nuclear event(s) took place.
 
I am certainly no authority as to how nuclear devices might be employed for such a mission, but Dimitri Khazelov is studied, and offers a theory: 9/11 Nuclear Demolition of The WTC - by Dimitri Khalezov
Me neither to be honest. I've taken a look at the guys theories in the past, and wasn't impressed enough to continue.

I can speculate of course, and I would say that since there were 3 hot spots recorded by AVIRIS flown over WTC by NASA and JPL, perhaps 3 devices were employed.
Could it possibly be that there were 3 seperate low spots near bedrock that molten material flowed into ?

However my gut feeling is that more than that were employed. Maybe the hot spots were records of devices used in the ground? Something had to keep that iron molten for 90 days.
You ever seen a frozen river surface with water still flowing under it ? Think of that for molten iron. I believe that anything ground penetrating will go to the hotest spot to guage the temp.

The lateral ejection of massive pieces on the higher and middle floors, such as that impaled into the American Express building suggest that. Huge energy was required to move those pieces in that manner.
Absolutely. And if it were a nuke it wouldn't be directional, so wouldn't it exert the same force all ways and impart massive asymmetrical damage to the core at that height, and perimeter damage on at least 2, maybe 3 sides ?

Also the report issued by NYC medical examiner shows that only 293 bodies were found intact, and out of 19906 remains recovered, 4735 were identified, and 200 of those pieces belonged to the same person.

That means one individual was blown into 200 different pieces.
Disturbing fact that. Always bothers me when I hear it.


We can only speculate as to exactly how they were placed and what size they were, but what is certain is that a nuclear event(s) took place.

It's by no means certain. I tend to be open to all sorts of hypothesis, even Judy has to be debunked before her theories are rejected. TBH in my view the nuke theory doesn't hold up any better than Wood's does. But I think it's a belief you sincerely hold.

I think the biggest stumbling block for me is just the practicalities. Thermitics makes sense - it's immune to sniffer dogs so you can do the incendiery work long in advance, then just pop the dogs off site, or at least downstairs when you add anything smelly like C4.

So why would anyone want to go to the bother of using a nuke(s) when conventional explosives are more focussed, more common and way less tracable.

Imagine the WTC teams found the nukes on Tues 10th - game over, cos they didn't come from a cave in Afghanistan. Conventional explosives on the other hand would leave the perps an option of deniability if they're discovered.

As I say, I do believe you hold your views sincerely, and I'm not meaning to belittle them, but trying to point out the huge added risk involved in using a nuke where you don't have to.
 
Above post should obviously read Monday, not Tuesday for the 10th.
 
Thermitics makes sense - it's immune to sniffer dogs so you can do the incendiery work long in advance, then just pop the dogs off site, or at least downstairs when you add anything smelly like C4.

Perhaps you might be able to answer this question; how did the thermitics survive the fires without being triggered?
 
Me neither to be honest. I've taken a look at the guys theories in the past, and wasn't impressed enough to continue.


Could it possibly be that there were 3 seperate low spots near bedrock that molten material flowed into ?


You ever seen a frozen river surface with water still flowing under it ? Think of that for molten iron. I believe that anything ground penetrating will go to the hotest spot to guage the temp.


Absolutely. And if it were a nuke it wouldn't be directional, so wouldn't it exert the same force all ways and impart massive asymmetrical damage to the core at that height, and perimeter damage on at least 2, maybe 3 sides ?


Disturbing fact that. Always bothers me when I hear it.




It's by no means certain. I tend to be open to all sorts of hypothesis, even Judy has to be debunked before her theories are rejected. TBH in my view the nuke theory doesn't hold up any better than Wood's does. But I think it's a belief you sincerely hold.

I think the biggest stumbling block for me is just the practicalities. Thermitics makes sense - it's immune to sniffer dogs so you can do the incendiery work long in advance, then just pop the dogs off site, or at least downstairs when you add anything smelly like C4.

So why would anyone want to go to the bother of using a nuke(s) when conventional explosives are more focussed, more common and way less tracable.

Imagine the WTC teams found the nukes on Tues 10th - game over, cos they didn't come from a cave in Afghanistan. Conventional explosives on the other hand would leave the perps an option of deniability if they're discovered.

As I say, I do believe you hold your views sincerely, and I'm not meaning to belittle them, but trying to point out the huge added risk involved in using a nuke where you don't have to.

You ct fans sure are nice to each other!
 
You ct fans sure are nice to each other!

We sure are. Sometimes. Also I forgot to thank you for giving me a laugh at this the other day......

Me to Ozeco's obvious oft repeated typo of Centenary.

You sure you don't mean CATENARY there champ ?

zyzygy responds to me with.....

Oh dear. :lamo

So I explain...
Catenary - Wikipedia

"In physics and geometry, a catenary (US: /ˈkætənɛri/, UK: /kəˈtiːnəri/) is the curve that an idealized hanging chain or cable assumes under its own weight when supported only at its ends. The catenary curve has a U-like shape, superficially similar in appearance to a parabolic arch, but it is not a parabola."

Centenary (disambiguation) - Wikipedia

"Centenary is an adjective form of century, a period of 100 years."


Which one of those 2 words would you use to describe a sagging truss ?

To which Ozeco, immediately seeing that he has repeated a very obvious but funny typo that I am making fun of, responds

Yes. I'm out of practice at proof reading on a forum with a limited edit window.

Suddenly there's no more zyzygy. :lamo Sharp as a marble that lad, aintcha zyzygy.
 
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