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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by gerrycan View Post
    Don't worry Gamelon, this won't take as long as WTC7 did.

    2 years you argued about shear studs on a girder and were proven wrong, and that hurt you badly because you'd went right out on a limb.

    You came back here to try to avenge that total humiliation that you were slapped with, and you failed again. then you came back with an attitude, and i told you not to play the man, but play the ball. You didn't and it backfired on you big time. Try it again, play the man again and see how you get on lad.
    Your delusions are amusing.
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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    Are half of you above average intelligence? That would be quite the coincidence
    Cognitive dissonance really has nothing to do with intelligence IMO.

    In real life, some of the smartest and most intelligent people I know simply cannot face the truth when it's ugly.

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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by gerrycan View Post
    No problem chump.
    Ad hominem noted. Please grow up and stop playing silly games.

    John Skilling died in 1998, After the 1993 bombing he was interviewed about the structures and their ability to resist collapse due to bombs. He stated then that he had no doubt that well placed cutter charges would bring it down.
    So what? This proves absolutely nothing in relation to 9/11, but you should already know that.
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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Study Suggests Design Flaws Didn't Doom Towers
    By ERIC LIPTON
    Published: October 20, 2004

    "For Leslie E. Robertson, the structural engineer who helped design the twin towers as a young man back in the early 1960's, the latest findings buttress his longstanding assertion that the towers were fundamentally sound. His wife, Saw-Teen See, who is a managing partner at Mr. Robertson's New York design firm, said the report "validates the way we thought the structure would have performed."
    The findings by the institute, however, still do not exonerate Mr. Robertson or the building's owner, the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which, in defending the trade center project from critics in the 1960s, boasted that the design was so robust that the towers could be hit by a jet traveling at 600 miles per hour without collapsing or endangering the lives of occupants beyond the impact zone. In retrospect, such a claim was unjustified because the engineers had failed to consider the added stresses caused by the resulting fires."

    Debunked: WTC Towers Fell in Their Own Footprints | Page 3 | Metabunk
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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

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    From a 2003 Newsweek article
    by Katherine Stroup

    "The buildings were designed specifically to withstand the impact of a Boeing 707—the largest plane flying in 1966, the year they broke ground on the project—and Robertson says it could have survived even the larger 767s that crashed into the towers on Tuesday morning. But the thousands of gallons of burning jet fuel finally brought down the noble structures. “As the fire raged it got hotter and hotter and the steel got weaker and weaker,” he says, adding that building a skyscraper able to handle such a blaze would not have been viable, financially and functionally. “You could always prepare for more and more extreme events, but there has to be a risk analysis of what’s reasonable.”
    Debunked: WTC Towers Fell in Their Own Footprints | Page 3 | Metabunk
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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post

    Problems, with that theory:

    1. They probably didn't need 9/11 as an excuse for invading Iraq. No one thought Iraq had caused 9/11. The actual excuse was WMD, which resulted from incorrect intelligence, which everyone (including Democrats) believed.

    2. There was no need for the airplane show. They could just have planted the explosives and said it had been done by terrorists.

    Exactly!
    That's what I always thought as well.

    I wonder what the conspiracy fans say to that.

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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpel View Post
    Exactly!
    That's what I always thought as well.

    I wonder what the conspiracy fans say to that.
    I will say that many more things were accomplished by the events of 911 than the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Care to discuss?

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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    I will say that many more things were accomplished by the events of 911 than the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan.
    For instance?

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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Rumpel View Post
    For instance?
    For instance the anonymous clearing of certain US securities that matured the next day. That, after the SEC invoked, for the first time ever, Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act. That allowed an estimated $240 billion in covert government securities to be cleared on 12 September without the standard regulatory controls around identification of ownership.

    The covert securities were a part of Project Hammer from the 1980s, which was part of how Boris Yeltsin was installed in Russia.

    This was all explored by E.P. Heidner in an article in June 2008, and work by Dick Eastman, Tom Flocco, V.K. Durham and Karl Schwarz.

    https://www.wanttoknow.info/911/Coll...fund_trust.pdf

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    Re: Thinking about 9/11

    Quote Originally Posted by Thoreau72 View Post
    For instance the anonymous clearing of certain US securities that matured the next day. That, after the SEC invoked, for the first time ever, Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act. That allowed an estimated $240 billion in covert government securities to be cleared on 12 September without the standard regulatory controls around identification of ownership.

    The covert securities were a part of Project Hammer from the 1980s, which was part of how Boris Yeltsin was installed in Russia.

    This was all explored by E.P. Heidner in an article in June 2008, and work by Dick Eastman, Tom Flocco, V.K. Durham and Karl Schwarz.

    https://www.wanttoknow.info/911/Coll...fund_trust.pdf
    Opinion piece devoid of facts and in no way explains why the plane ruse was needed

    Another fail from our resident "flight instructor" who still hasn't figured out what ground effect is
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