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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

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    Did you know that the modern diet made by humanity is not what ancient humans naturally relied on? High cholesterol is a result of modernization's affect on humanity and that calcification of arteries occurs in about 80% of all people over 25. In 1920 the top two killers were not heart disease and cancer but rather Tuberculosis and bacterial infections.
    We can't have a perfect lifestyle but we can avoid refined carbohydrates. Says the person who just bought a box of cookies.

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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

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    We can't have a perfect lifestyle but we can avoid refined carbohydrates. Says the person who just bought a box of cookies.
    Keep fighting the good fight and we'll allow the occasional box of thin mints.
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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

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    No, but they cause other kinds of damage.

    Aspirin should not be taken every day for life unless absolutely needed. Statin drugs should not be taken every day for life unless absolutely needed.
    Yes, we should ignore out doctors, our medical scientists, the AMA and adhere to your theories and advice.
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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Did you know that the modern diet made by humanity is not what ancient humans naturally relied on? High cholesterol is a result of modernization's affect on humanity and that calcification of arteries occurs in about 80% of all people over 25. In 1920 the top two killers were not heart disease and cancer but rather Tuberculosis and bacterial infections.
    Yes, people died before hardening of the arteries took its tolls.
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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Yes, people died before hardening of the arteries took its tolls.
    My grandfather died of a heart attack at 43 in 1942. Fat and sugar were big staples of their diet back then.
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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by OldFatGuy View Post
    Yes, people died before hardening of the arteries took its tolls.
    That's the myth, promoted by the drug companies and medical industry. We need the drugs because the drugs have made us so healthy we live long enough to get heart disease.

    NO. There has been plenty of research showing that CVD, and cancer, are diseases of modern industrial societies. People in non-industrial societies seldom get them, even though they live long enough.

    These diseases do not result inevitably from age. That is not true. They become more likely with age, because of increased exposure to the unhealthy lifestyle. But young people are getting type 2 diabetes now.

    It's a myth. Just repeating it won't make it true.

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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    My grandfather died of a heart attack at 43 in 1942. Fat and sugar were big staples of their diet back then.
    A people smoked a lot too.

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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    A people smoked a lot too.
    He smoked, so maybe there's some truth there.
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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    He smoked, so maybe there's some truth there.
    Smoking tobacco is a major cause of cardiovascular disease. The other major cause is metabolic syndrome and type 2 diabetes. High cholesterol is a cause in only a very small minority of cases. Yet cholesterol-lowering drugs are prescribed to many millions of people who do NOT have familial (genetic) high cholesterol.

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    Re: Cholesterol drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Good4Nothin View Post
    Smoking tobacco is a major cause of cardiovascular disease. The other major cause is metabolic syndrome and type 2 diabetes. High cholesterol is a cause in only a very small minority of cases. Yet cholesterol-lowering drugs are prescribed to many millions of people who do NOT have familial (genetic) high cholesterol.
    You could be right that most people don't need cholesterol drugs but with all the unnatural human-made related causes there could be a great need. Only time will tell.
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