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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphcdp View Post
    If you don't know the difference between a question and a statement it doesn't seem likely that you know anything about the evidence, science or the facts.
    A statement of fact never ends with a question mark. It can end with a period or an exclamation mark. Your failure to understand basic elementary school English certainly illuminates why you grew up to be a conspiracy theorist.

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    The problem for the US governments' story is that there is no evidence for that. Do you possess something that the US governments' don't have?

    The US Governments? How many governments does the United States have?

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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphcdp View Post
    The problem for the US governments' story is that there is no evidence for that. Do you possess something that the US governments' don't have?
    There is plenty of evidence for that. What evidence do you have that would contradict it? What do you possess?
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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
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    The US Governments? How many governments does the United States have?
    The Bush one, the Obama one and the Trump one. Although Trump believes the the twin towers at least were blown up.

    Have you got any evidence?

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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by zyzygy View Post
    There is plenty of evidence for that. ...
    But you can't provide any. That isn't at all odd because there is no evidence. The folks in that dismal "study" you referenced will also likely see jail time or worse for their part in a totally transparent cover up.

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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Another article of faith among conspiracy theorists is that the conspiracy would not have to have been very large. In Crossing the Rubicon, Michael Ruppert writes that there didn't have to be any more than two dozen people with complete foreknowledge of the attacks to orchestrate 9/11, and that they would all be "bound to silence by Draconian secrecy oaths." But those numbers begin to balloon out of control if all of the people and institutions accused of playing a part in the cover-up are counted. They would have to have included the CIA; the Justice Department; the FAA; NORAD; American and United Airlines; FEMA; Popular Mechanics and other media outlets; state and local law enforcement agencies in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and New York; the National Institute of Standards and Technology; and, finally and perhaps most prominently, the 9/11 Commission.

    In 2007 a conspiracist confronted Zelikow in public with the "fact" that many of the hijackers are still alive. Zelikow responded that the
    9/11 Commission had looked into the claims and found nothing to them but could not fit every single debunked conspiracy theory into the final version of the report. The questioner's reply was to repeat his accusation. I had a similar experience on the same topic when questioning Griffin, who begins his book The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortionswith the "hijackers are still alive" theory. I sent him an email pointing out that this theory relied on discredited media reports—the "hijackers" they had found were just people with the same names as the hijackers. In response, he emailed me a chapter on the topic from one of his books and said he was too busy to discuss the issue further.


    At a certain point, though, debating science and theory and ideas is an exercise in futility, because the hypotheses of conspiracy theorists are not grounded in any kind of a larger understanding of the real world. "This sounds really mean," says Erik Sofge, a reporter on the original Popular Mechanics piece and an occasional contributor to Slate. "But really, it's like arguing over the marching speed of hobbits."

    9/11 "Truth": How believers in the 9/11 conspiracy theory respond to refutations.
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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphcdp View Post
    But you can't provide any. That isn't at all odd because there is no evidence. The folks in that dismal "study" you referenced will also likely see jail time or worse for their part in a totally transparent cover up.
    I did provide it. Now, what about that evidence that you don't seem to have? If you don't want to discuss then just say so. All of your posts can be translated as "I have no evidence".
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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphcdp View Post
    The Bush one, the Obama one and the Trump one. Although Trump believes the the twin towers at least were blown up.

    Have you got any evidence?
    If you won't tell us what your problems are with the official story then we cannot proceed. Let's start with something simple. What evidence do you have of the towers being blown up? And if they were then why fly planes into them?
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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by zyzygy View Post
    Another article of faith among conspiracy theorists ...
    Still no evidence. And you know full well why you can't supply any evidence.

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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by zyzygy View Post
    I did provide it.
    It was the same invisible evidence that supporters of the US governments' story always provide.

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    Re: The jig is up on the US governments' 9/11 conspiracy theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ralphcdp View Post
    Still no evidence. And you know full well why you can't supply any evidence.
    The evidence is there. The official report fits the facts, in my opinion. Why won't you share your evidence with us?
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