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[W:6]****Current Democratic Reps Controlled by Mexican Mafia; Refuse to Build Wall to Keep Cartels

Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

WCH said:
Well, there have been half-ass efforts to fix the border and those were never meant to solve the problems. Who knows what success will look like since none of us have ever witnessed it.
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So another half-assed effort is progress?

I'd argue instead that the current situation is success, in the eyes of the folks who are calling the shots.

Whatever their stated position might be, current policy is the amalgamation of all the interests in play. It's the distillation of what both political parties (or more accurately, their donors) want.

I'll also speculate that they are glad that we are arguing over another non-solution, as it extends the clock for the status quo.

Certainly better (from their POV) than focusing our attention on who ultimately benefits from maintaining current policy or pushing ineffective solutions.
 
Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

WCH said:
Doubt we'll know what border control looks like since none of us have ever seen it. ;)
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Stop being funny, we are supposed to be arch enemies. ;)

You guys ought to abandon this wall nonsense, and see if you can actually see what it looks like. If a company employs 200 illegal workers, what's easier: Dealing with the 200 employees, or dealing with the single employer? Your being funny bought you a moment free of my flippancy (which is why it was so annoying), so take it at face value when I say, this seems so obvious - what am I missing??
 
Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

WCH said:
No politician has been serious about border control for the last several decades. Sorry, ain't buying that jargon.

The agents on the border know what is needed.
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Do you believe similarly that teachers know how to fix failing school systems?

I think border agents are on the side of border agents.
 
Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

Sampson Simpson said:
Let's see, Trump and other right wing morons want a wall, that will do nothing to stop drugs.

Drugs don't come across the southern border, they go through checkpoints, ports, get flown in. Wall would do nothing to stop drugs. Democrats and Pelosi want real border security, that would effect where drugs and illegals really get in. Trump wants a vanity project wall to get a win for his idiotic, lowlife base.

Sounds like Trump and republicans are the ones that are working for the drug lords, as they don't want to do things that could address that.

how dumb does one have to be to still insist a wall would do a damn thing and is worth pissing away money. The same people balking at 3 billion to provide healthcare to american citizen kids, and against lunch programs to feed the poor American kids.
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So you agree that Pelosi and Schumer should be voted out of office for spending $25 billion on 700 miles of border barrier - rather than on programs to feed the poor American kids, correct?
 
Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

WCH said:
the swamp wasn't cooperative in the first two years.
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I'm sorry. That's what total GOP control could do.

When did Trump make that wall thingie a priority, anyway? It seemed the big noise didn't start until just before the 2018 election, and that wasn't about legislating walls, it was just raw fear-mongering.
 
Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

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Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

WCH said:
Yea, and there are upwards of 30+ million illegals living here now. Who ya gonna believe?
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What is a border wall going to do about illegals living here now?
 
Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

WCH said:
Assuming there was better technology, agents that would normally be elsewhere would be available at the checkpoints searching persons and vehicles. There is a shortage of agents also.
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I agree that there is a shortage of agents. But there wouldn't be more agents available at the checkpoints if we had a wall. A wall is useless without border agents within a few minutes interception distance of any point where a group decides to cross. A wall can be defeated with a couple of ladders and bolt cutters for the razor wire. The only way it works is if there are border agents within range to take advantage of the temporary slowdown the wall causes a group attempting to cross. That's why border patrol is asking for better barriers only in heavily patrolled urban areas and not out in the middle of nowhere. Barriers are useless without agents guarding them.
 
Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

WCH said:
There's a lot of evidence that legalization has just created a safe haven for criminals, including the Cartels. They were already here growing it.
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I said nothing about legalization.

BUT....if this eliminates the desire, then I am all for it.
Thank you.
 
Re: Are the drug cartels controlloing Pelosi?

WillyPete said:
So another half-assed effort is progress?

I'd argue instead that the current situation is success, in the eyes of the folks who are calling the shots.

Whatever their stated position might be, current policy is the amalgamation of all the interests in play. It's the distillation of what both political parties (or more accurately, their donors) want.

I'll also speculate that they are glad that we are arguing over another non-solution, as it extends the clock for the status quo.

Certainly better (from their POV) than focusing our attention on who ultimately benefits from maintaining current policy or pushing ineffective solutions.
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No doubt the desire for cheap slave-type labor and a perpetual under-class are appealing to the political class and corporate elites. In the mean time, the rest of us are left out in the cold.
 
democrat hysteria over Trump’s national emergency suggests they are being bribed by cartels


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The left wing hysteria over Trump’s national emergency declaration is overflowing. He’d been threatening it. It was a campaign promise. They didn’t listen. So amped to prevent Donald Trump from any success, democrats are more than willing to see Americans continue to die- being killed at the hands of illegals and from drug overdoses. Trump has tried several times to get the wall built to no avail. So today he declared the need to build the wall a national emergency.... And democrats are blinded with rage. If you listen to the left wing media, you’d think declaring a national emergency was something way out of the ordinary.... It’s not.
If President Donald Trump moves to invoke a national emergency at the US border to bypass Congress and obtain funding to build his long-promised border wall, a battle in the courts over the questionable legality of spending those dollars would be virtually guaranteed.... But the United States is no stranger to national emergencies.
In fact, the US has been in a perpetual state of declared national emergency for four decades, and the country is currently under 31 concurrent states of emergency about a spectrum of international issues around the globe, according to a CNN review of documents from the Congressional Research Service and the Federal Register. Obama declared 13 of them.
What is the emergency?
The flood of illegals into the country
Flood of Illegals Into South Texas Deemed 'Unsustainable' | News Radio 1200 WOAI
Trump Makes a Bold Promise as 3,000 Illegals Flood US Border in 1 Day
MS-13 spreads to 22 states, fed by 300,000 illegals, DACA recipients, tied to 207 murders
Drugs:
Deadly blue '''Mexican oxy''' pills take toll on US Southwest


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Are Democrats overtly bribed to overlook the Drug/Opioid Crisis in America? I don't think so, but I do believe that there are envelopes full of cash found in the desks of Democrat Representatives on a monthly basis. It's not personal it's business. From the airfields like Mena Arkansas to the borders of the US/Mexico drugs are pouring into the U.S. and Democrats turn their backs on the criminal acts claiming no emergency in the matter.
The entities controlling the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist Uni-Party are committed to erasing national borders and basically creating a Globalist version of the EU on steroids. The Wall is a giant turd in their punchbowl.
Anybody that doesn't think this is not an emergency needs to spend a night at the border all alone with a small campfire, don't call 911 that is for emergencies only.
Three caravans the largest estimated at 15,000 are on their way, that wont be the last.
Congress has been promising a secure southern border since Reagan. They lied to Reagan and the American taxpayers then just as they did to Trump on February 15th. If Congress would do ITS job, it wouldn’t be an emergency, but the Democrats would rather see Americans killed and the economy raped than allow Trump a success. Well, they can’t stop it.
 
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