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Provide evidence that Sandy Hook wasn't a hoax.

The whole story is a false narrative, and the events that day were staged. Boston and Pulse too, play actors everywhere to be seen.

Nice fantasy got any actual evidence to support it?
 
The whole story is a false narrative, and the events that day were staged. Boston and Pulse too, play actors everywhere to be seen.

Thanks for a partial answer. The part you missed was the "prove it". You didn't so, I take it you really cannot prove your statement.

False narrative. opinion till proven
events staged opinion till proven

Unlike you, I provided a link to the official report. It presents the findings of the investigation. As I have said before I do look at other explanations. I find them lacking. So yes, I accept the official report for Sandy Hook.
 
Your side was the first to demand it, so, go ahead. Show it.

Wait, the first person to demand proof has to prove his own claim? That's not how debating works. The first person to make a claim is the one who needs to support his claim. If I was the first person who claimed God is real, it's up to me to provide evidence for my claim. Conversely, if an atheist or agnostic claimed that God isn't real, it's up to him to provide evidence.
 
According to the rules of logic, if any element of a story is false, the entire story becomes false.

No, if one part of the story is false (which you failed to proce any part of the story to be false) then the rest of the story becomes suspect. You're throwing the baby out with the bath water with your reasoning.

What you find compelling is mostly government/corporate propaganda.

I'm independent, and I don't let others do the thinking for me. I'm skeptical, and resistant to govt BS.
I'm independent too. Which is why I no longer believe Sandy Hook was a hoax. Two can play at this game. You claiming to be independent does not automatically make you independent, especially when you fail to provide evidence for your claim.
 
I think the hoax believers should all gather together and visit the parents of the dead children and tell them it's a hoax.
 
I think the hoax believers should all gather together and visit the parents of the dead children and tell them it's a hoax.

A very sweet appeal to emotion you offer Bong, thanks much.

Too bad you offer no comparable appeal to rational analysis.
 
A very sweet appeal to emotion you offer Bong, thanks much.

Too bad you offer no comparable appeal to rational analysis.

As soon as my head stops twisting around like I'm in the exorcist and I can collect a rational thought, I'll answer. Hoo boy.
 
Too bad you offer no comparable appeal to rational analysis.

Pot, meet kettle.

You've had your evidence that supposedly supports your beliefs ripped to shreds at every turn. All you do is put people on ignore so you have an excuse not to reply about your garbage.
 
Pot, meet kettle.

You've had your evidence that supposedly supports your beliefs ripped to shreds at every turn. All you do is put people on ignore so you have an excuse not to reply about your garbage.

HD doesn't do reality, logic or evidence its all about blaming the ebil US govt.
 
A very sweet appeal to emotion you offer Bong, thanks much.

Too bad you offer no comparable appeal to rational analysis.

You still didn't provide any irrefutable evidence that it was a hoax.
 
You still didn't provide any irrefutable evidence that it was a hoax.

No but he did provide a bunch of BS that has been proven false
 
You still didn't provide any irrefutable evidence that it was a hoax.

You haven't provided (and neither have the authorities) any proof at all, much less irrefutable evidence, that the story is true.
 
You haven't provided (and neither have the authorities) any proof at all, much less irrefutable evidence, that the story is true.

Much like you have never provided proof it was a hoax, false flag or whatever. What has been shown is you were wrong about the portable toilets. Pretty simple to realize you are wrong about most things regarding Sandy Hook. :mrgreen:
 
Much like you have never provided proof it was a hoax, false flag or whatever. What has been shown is you were wrong about the portable toilets. Pretty simple to realize you are wrong about most things regarding Sandy Hook. :mrgreen:

Recall Mike, if you will, that when Party A makes a claim, Party A must be able to prove his claim. If he cannot prove his claim, it does not become valid, it becomes (by strict standards) invalid.

They can't prove Cruz did it, and at least 2 parties on staff report seeing the same sort of shooters as were seen in San Bernardino. Oops!
 
Recall Mike, if you will, that when Party A makes a claim, Party A must be able to prove his claim. If he cannot prove his claim, it does not become valid, it becomes (by strict standards) invalid.

They can't prove Cruz did it, and at least 2 parties on staff report seeing the same sort of shooters as were seen in San Bernardino. Oops!

Yes, I recall. Do you? Please remember what you just posted. Apply it to when questions are asked of you.
You do realize that eye witness accounts should be backed up by other evidence. So now that you brought up the "same sort of shooter", where is your evidence that the "same sort of shooter" may have done the killing? Your claim, your burden.:lamo
 
Yes, I recall. Do you? Please remember what you just posted. Apply it to when questions are asked of you.
You do realize that eye witness accounts should be backed up by other evidence. So now that you brought up the "same sort of shooter", where is your evidence that the "same sort of shooter" may have done the killing? Your claim, your burden.:lamo

Asking and answering questions have little to do with it.

Claims, theories and stories is what it's all about, and in this case the claim, theory/story about what officially happened at Parkland comes up really short. Obviously, many have embraced it as gospel, but some of us are more curious than others.
 
Asking and answering questions have little to do with it.

Claims, theories and stories is what it's all about, and in this case the claim, theory/story about what officially happened at Parkland comes up really short. Obviously, many have embraced it as gospel, but some of us are more curious than others.

Same type of response you always give. You failed to prove the "same sort of shooter" statement.

You seem to have taken the bait from VToday and other sites you visit.
Amazing how you never let a tragic event go to waste. You seem to always believe it was the government.
 
Since a member on my thread "evidence that Sandy Hook was a hoax" is trying to derail my thread by trying to shift the burden of proof, I decided it would be easier for him if I shifted the burden of proof myself and to hopefully keep my other thread on track. Premise is rather simple, provide evidence that Sandy Hook wasn't a hoax.


Just to be clear, I don't believe Sandy Hook was a hoax/false flag. I used to, but that's another story that I've already gone into detail about.

What would constitute "proof" for you? Police reports? Eyewitness accounts? Family and friends of victims who are no longer with us?

This is like asking for proof of the moon landing, or for evolutionary biology, or climate change, or Obama's birth certificate, or that vaccines don't cause autism, or that area 51 is not hiding an alien autopsy. At some point, you have to realize the person asking for the proof is just a conspiracy nut and should be ignored, because no amount of proving is going to satisfy them.
 
Same type of response you always give. You failed to prove the "same sort of shooter" statement.

You seem to have taken the bait from VToday and other sites you visit.
Amazing how you never let a tragic event go to waste. You seem to always believe it was the government.

Either you're not paying attention Mike, or your memory is failing you.

3 years ago here I and another poster provided the Scott Pelley footage regarding San Bernardino. He talked live to a witness who worked where it happened (and there were other witnesses mentioned by other sources) who described the shooters as 3 athletic males in military garb.

I have posted numerous times here the remarks by at least 2 staff members who actually saw the shooter(s) at Parkland, and one was a female teacher who was actually grazed on the should by one of the rounds fired. They both described the shooter(s) as being tall and in military garb, and WEARING FACE MASKS.

So the point is that the claim/story/theory that Cruz did the shooting is contradicted by at least 2 staff members. I just had lunch on Sunday with friends who live nearby the school. The wife grew up with the young man who is now (and was then) the principal of the school. Having known him for maybe 20 years, she said he is now a changed man, and displays strong body language in refusing to discuss any detail at all of what happened that day.

My theory is that the young man is carrying a tremendous burden in his mind, he is hiding a very ugly secret, and it's crushing him.

Fascinating that even as the facility in SB had been used on a regular basis for "active shooter" drills by the police, the Parkland teachers reported the morning announcement that day advising students and staff that there would be a training exercise that day, with screaming and yelling and the firing of blank ammunition. Hmm, for those able to see, a pattern has developed.
 
Either you're not paying attention Mike, or your memory is failing you.

3 years ago here I and another poster provided the Scott Pelley footage regarding San Bernardino. He talked live to a witness who worked where it happened (and there were other witnesses mentioned by other sources) who described the shooters as 3 athletic males in military garb.

I have posted numerous times here the remarks by at least 2 staff members who actually saw the shooter(s) at Parkland, and one was a female teacher who was actually grazed on the should by one of the rounds fired. They both described the shooter(s) as being tall and in military garb, and WEARING FACE MASKS.

So the point is that the claim/story/theory that Cruz did the shooting is contradicted by at least 2 staff members. I just had lunch on Sunday with friends who live nearby the school. The wife grew up with the young man who is now (and was then) the principal of the school. Having known him for maybe 20 years, she said he is now a changed man, and displays strong body language in refusing to discuss any detail at all of what happened that day.

My theory is that the young man is carrying a tremendous burden in his mind, he is hiding a very ugly secret, and it's crushing him.

Fascinating that even as the facility in SB had been used on a regular basis for "active shooter" drills by the police, the Parkland teachers reported the morning announcement that day advising students and staff that there would be a training exercise that day, with screaming and yelling and the firing of blank ammunition. Hmm, for those able to see, a pattern has developed.

You are correct that what you believe is just a theory. Unproven theory. Your misinformation is typical of followers of INFOWARS
 
You are correct that what you believe is just a theory. Unproven theory. Your misinformation is typical of followers of INFOWARS

Good, so we're talking about 2 different theories, neither of which have been proved.
 
In this era of America we have to pretend that mass shootings don't actually happen.
 
In this era of America we have to pretend that mass shootings don't actually happen.

No, they want us to know that they happened because it instills fear.

They want us to pretend that they are all spontaneous; that none are staged events.
 
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