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Evidence Sandy Hook was a hoax.

Maccabee said:
Process of elimination. Most, if not all of the conspiracy theories surrounding Sandy Hook are from snippets of what was publically known. By debunking conspiracy theories, you validate the "official narrative." Now, are you're going to contribute to the thread pr are you going to continue to try to shift the burden of proof and derail the thread like last time?
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LOL, yes a process of elimination. First, eliminate any conclusions that might disagree with the narrative. Secondly, deny all facts that counter your conclusion. Mac the critical thinker. :lol:
 
mike2810 said:
Prove it.

First you would need to post what your standards for evidence is.
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You prove it for me Mike, with just about every post you make, with your fealty and credulity towards the statements of men like Scott Pelley. Anybody that would believe what he says is as gullible as they come.

Standards for evidence is very much done on a case-by-case basis. One of them is skepticism of the statements of known liars.
 
Thoreau72 said:
LOL, yes a process of elimination. First, eliminate any conclusions that might disagree with the narrative. Secondly, deny all facts that counter your conclusion. Mac the critical thinker. :lol:
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Please contribute to the thread or I'm no longer engaging with you. Why are you here if you're too cowardly to defend your reasoning as to why you think Sandy Hook was a false flag/hoax?
 
Thoreau72 said:
You prove it for me Mike, with just about every post you make, with your fealty and credulity towards the statements of men like Scott Pelley. Anybody that would believe what he says is as gullible as they come.

Standards for evidence is very much done on a case-by-case basis. One of them is skepticism of the statements of known liars.
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Then by all means, provide your stamdard of evidence on this case.
 
SkyFox76 said:
I'm in no way a fan of people who think this (or any other) shooting was a hoax, but I'm curious where you're getting Adam Lanza was a white supremacists?
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Well, he was white. Good evidence right there.

All white people are eevil supremacists.
 
Thoreau72 said:
You prove it for me Mike, with just about every post you make, with your fealty and credulity towards the statements of men like Scott Pelley. Anybody that would believe what he says is as gullible as they come.

Standards for evidence is very much done on a case-by-case basis. One of them is skepticism of the statements of known liars.
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Not even a good dodge. T.

Reverse burden of proof is when you have nothing.
Really, standard of evidence on a case by case basis. :doh

"skepticism of the statements of known liars. ", ok. So your saying the investigators from the local, State and Federal all lied regarding Sandy Hook.
You have been shown that many of the authors you use have also lied. Why do you continue to believe them?


Still waiting for your proof Sandy Hook was a hoax.
 
Thoreau72 said:
While providing no evidence that the official tale is true and accurate....such a skilled debater.
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No evidence? In order for Sandy Hook to be a hoax a school full of children and their parents plus dozens of police present and hundreds of others would all have to agree to tell the same lies. That's just the beginning.

You couldn't get 10 people on this forum to agree on anything. Believing that hundreds could act in concert is the hoax.
 
There is no evidence that there was a hoax... or some other explanation as who the shooter was etc. If it wasn't the alleged shooter I am sure he would lawyer up. What the point of all these hoax theories. What is whoever is supposedly doing these murders trying to achieve.... gun control legislation????????? Rubbish.
 
Maccabee said:
Please contribute to the thread or I'm no longer engaging with you. Why are you here if you're too cowardly to defend your reasoning as to why you think Sandy Hook was a false flag/hoax?
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Please read my previous explanations and rationale, Master Debater.
 
jimbo said:
No evidence? In order for Sandy Hook to be a hoax a school full of children and their parents plus dozens of police present and hundreds of others would all have to agree to tell the same lies. That's just the beginning.

You couldn't get 10 people on this forum to agree on anything. Believing that hundreds could act in concert is the hoax.
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The people of Boston, including prosecutors and judges and ordinary folks, did a pretty darn good job of keep secret the shenanigans of many priests over many years.

Just the facts, ma'am, to borrow from Joe Friday.

The facts don't support the official narrative, they contradict it.
 
Thoreau72 said:
The people of Boston, including prosecutors and judges and ordinary folks, did a pretty darn good job of keep secret the shenanigans of many priests over many years.

Just the facts, ma'am, to borrow from Joe Friday.

The facts don't support the official narrative, they contradict it.
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I'm not seeing any connection between a group of pedophile priests in Boston and a mass school shooting at Sandy Hook.
 
jimbo said:
I'm not seeing any connection between a group of pedophile priests in Boston and a mass school shooting at Sandy Hook.
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Neither are you seeing any connection between how you think after you've been deceived by professionals.

The point is human behavior. Humans in society, in concert, are quite capable of keeping secrets, whether it be about priests behaving badly or government officials behaving badly.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Neither are you seeing any connection between how you think after you've been deceived by professionals.

The point is human behavior. Humans in society, in concert, are quite capable of keeping secrets, whether it be about priests behaving badly or government officials behaving badly.
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Actually, sir, humans are not.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Neither are you seeing any connection between how you think after you've been deceived by professionals.

The point is human behavior. Humans in society, in concert, are quite capable of keeping secrets, whether it be about priests behaving badly or government officials behaving badly.
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“Three may keep a secret if two of them are dead.”
 
jimbo said:
Actually, sir, humans are not.
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Some are, some are not. Usually those with a stake in the secret, financial or otherwise, are quite good at it. I suspect we both know that.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Some are, some are not. Usually those with a stake in the secret, financial or otherwise, are quite good at it. I suspect we both know that.
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Nonsense. 20 kids dead. or in your view, hauled off to disappear, never to be seen again. 20 families torn apart, many with more than one child. 20 funerals.

Thousands of reporters looking for the next career building story. Dozens of politicians looking to win the next election.

Sandy Hook is a small city. A high proportion of the residents knew one or more of the victims.

And everybody agrees to perpetuate the same story?

Then there's the question. What vested interest would the government have in creating the lie?
 
jimbo said:
Nonsense. 20 kids dead. or in your view, hauled off to disappear, never to be seen again. 20 families torn apart, many with more than one child. 20 funerals.

Thousands of reporters looking for the next career building story. Dozens of politicians looking to win the next election.

Sandy Hook is a small city. A high proportion of the residents knew one or more of the victims.

And everybody agrees to perpetuate the same story?

Then there's the question. What vested interest would the government have in creating the lie?
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No, in my view it is possible that youngsters were killed, just not likely.

At Parkland my view is that youngsters WERE killed, but I'm not certain of that.

The goal of the exercise was to instill fear and terror in the populace SO THAT gun control legislation would result. The irony is that it failed to do that on the federal level, but it did succeed to some degree on the state level, I think NY and CT both subsequently passed such legislation, as did Florida after Parkland.

That POTUS Obama flew the surviving family members in AF1 suggests that.
 
Thoreau72 said:
No, in my view it is possible that youngsters were killed, just not likely.

At Parkland my view is that youngsters WERE killed, but I'm not certain of that.

The goal of the exercise was to instill fear and terror in the populace SO THAT gun control legislation would result. The irony is that it failed to do that on the federal level, but it did succeed to some degree on the state level, I think NY and CT both subsequently passed such legislation, as did Florida after Parkland.

That POTUS Obama flew the surviving family members in AF1 suggests that.
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That's just nonsense.
 
Thoreau72 said:
My standards for evidence is much higher than yours.
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You believing a 20 year old Lanza shot 6 year old CLASSMATES shows your above self praise as being FAR from the truth.
 
jimbo said:
That's just nonsense.
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Nonsense in that it is in contradiction of the official narrative? You asked the question, and I answered it.

In a time of universal deception, speaking the truth is a radical act.
 
Mr Person said:
Nothing beats a dousing rod wrapped in tin foil.
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No, for some folks, standards for evidence and much more is what the authorities tell them. Like Scott Pelley at San Bernardino, whatever the authorities tell him matters much more than what any eye witness might tell him. Evidence for most americans is whatever the authorities tell them. That is pretty much what Casey of the CIA was referring to with his statement back in the 80's that when everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.
 
If I had a dollar for every nut job who claimed:

1. To have police training

2. Was a Navy SEAL

3. Was a Green Beret

4. Was a former attorney for the Dept of Justice AND a multimillionaire

I'd be one very wealthy man.

Me, I'm just a halfway competent camera op who was lucky enough to work on a few fun projects in between long stretches of boredom and corporate monotony, and I even made a little bit of money from time to time and won a couple of minor awards.

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And I thought I'd married into Hollywood royalty once upon a time, but that turned out to be a nightmare, but at least the second time around I married well.
But I am not a Navy SEAL, I never had police training, I wasn't a Green Beret and I've never worked for the DOJ and I am most definitely not a multimillionaire.

But you know what? I feel very wealthy anyway.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Please read my previous explanations and rationale, Master Debater.
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Are they on this thread? Also, why do you keep calling me that? I never claimed to be a master debater for you to try to taut me by calling me that. I try to argue with logic and reasoning as much as possible. I admit that I have biases and pitfalls, however I try my best to fix that.
 
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