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[W:12, 217] Bin Laden Raid ?

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OlNate said:
Sorry, random question, but something I've been wondering for a long time...hopefully you won't take offense. What is with you conspiracy guys and excessive, random capitalization of words? It's like reading a hacker manifesto from the mid 90's. Why do you guys always do that? Seems counter-productive - I mean, you're already trying to get people to believe something a little out there, and then you're going to make it impossible to read with the crazy capital letters all over the place. Yet you guys do it pretty uniformly.

What's up with that? :)
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Lack of education? Playing a role? Trying to annoy?
 
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zyzygy said:
Lack of education? Playing a role? Trying to annoy?
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Those answers are super boring. I was hoping for something like using random capitalization to create a subliminal trigger, or that the letters, when strung together and divided by 7, give the location of Atlantis.

You're not very good at this. ;)
 
mike2810 said:
Noted:
Not one link to the any of the research to back up what you posted. Why is that?

Your is not even that well presented for an opinion piece.:mrgreen:
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I don't do { use } links.But I will cite authority { a source }.
 
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zyzygy said:
Lack of education? Playing a role? Trying to annoy?
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Maybe use of an exclamation is more impactful.
" Lack of education ! Playing a role ! Trying to annoy !
Mr.BiG Thinker
 
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foolardi said:
Conspiracy Theory,is what we understand now was the Vehicle used to Keep
ordinary americans at bay.A way to Intimidate from learning and researching more.
Most recent example was how this Corrupted MSM used the notion that any talk about
some Caravan approaching was overblown.Definately No Invasion.Just Conspiracy Theory.
This was the approach adopted during Obama's Reign.Like how his IRS targeted Conservatives.
Just some Conspiracy.Or that Government was actually Spying on Americans.Eventually James
Clapper had to come clean.The list is long and dirty.Obama Did Create a Deep State.
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At least since the time of Edward Bernays, the nephew of Freud and hired by Woodrow Wilson to hand 'public relations' for the government, Americans have been conditioned and manipulated as to their public perceptions, their collective perceptions. A century on, manipulation of the public perception has risen to a refined art form. I doubt this is unique to the US.

As William Casey noted a few decades back, when everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts. Misinformation is how we roll.

To keep the public convinced, Kathryn Bigelow was enticed with the help of CIA to make her propaganda piece Zero Dark Thirty. It worked, though probably most people believed the fantasy without the movie.

My theory is that the ruse to kill OBL again was meant to distract from the big stink Barack got in in San Francisco with a surreptitious camera recording a fund raiser there. Even among his well-heeled contributors, and at the height of Occupy Wall STreet tactics, he faced organized if friendly criticism for his illegal handling of Bradley Manning. It was funny to watch, and hugely embarrassing for Barack.

About 10 days later came the Legend of Abbottabad, and the American public gobbled it up with enthusiasm. Most had already forgotten, if they ever knew in the first place, that OBL died a natural death in December 2001.

In a very sad way, it's comical how gullible the public has been made. They don't need no stinkin' proof, only the word of government authority.
 
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foolardi said:
Maybe use of an exclamation is more impactful.
" Lack of education ! Playing a role ! Trying to annoy !
Mr.BiG Thinker
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So no proof. Understood!
 
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OlNate said:
Those answers are super boring. I was hoping for something like using random capitalization to create a subliminal trigger, or that the letters, when strung together and divided by 7, give the location of Atlantis.

You're not very good at this. ;)
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Truth should never seem too short.But in todays world of Fake news ... it's far easier
to avoid the truth.Like using doublespeak and groupthink.
Plato might not be impressed by such Media manipulation.

" ... but a man is not to be reverenced more than the truth,and therefore I
will speak out. " -- Plato { The Republic Bk. X, 595c }
 
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zyzygy said:
So no proof. Understood!
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Oh ! I get it ... how cute.But never too clever.
Not One photo of a slain Bin Laden.Not one frame of the takedown { Seal Helmut video camera }.
You'd a thunk that whomever thunk-up this Raid would back up the takedown.
Burial at Sea.How clever.No way ever to now locate a dead body.
 
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foolardi said:
Oh ! I get it ... how cute.But never too clever.
Not One photo of a slain Bin Laden.Not one frame of the takedown { Seal Helmut video camera }.
You'd a thunk that whomever thunk-up this Raid would back up the takedown.
Burial at Sea.How clever.No way ever to now locate a dead body.
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So no proof. Understood!
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
He was ill and under the control of Pakistan...and dont forget too that Bin Laden had long ago accomplished his mission of goading America into disastrous mistakes...He had won the battle....he had no interest in running about and getting found.

He was allowed to retire in Pakistan basically.
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Do you reckon that when he was Tim Osman he told the Americans what they wanted to hear? That he did what they wanted him to do? :mrgreen:
 
foolardi said:
I don't do { use } links.But I will cite authority { a source }.
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Good to know.
The issue is then we do not know the exact source of your info or quotes.
 
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foolardi said:
Yes,A Helicopter went down during the actual Bin Laden raid.However the photo of that
broken/burned helicopter eventually was removed never to be viewed again.Whoever decides
that stuff,thought it was bad press.Probably because it complicates the narrative.That this
Bid Laden raid went off w/o a hitch.I mean,like why wouldn't it.Obama was the guy who
commandeered this outstanding mission.Because the Press did make a spectacle of the
Situation Room photo of Obama sitting in front of a display screen with many White House
surrounding him with Bated Breath.We were consistently informed that they were watching a Live
Feed of the Mission.About a year later,no mention ever again about that " supposed " Live Feed.
Because that would prove many things didn't add up.
Like how the day after Obama addressed the nation { late on a sunday night } which was a Monday
MSNBC and CNN were even putting up sketches of a 40+ minute firefight right outside this concrete
compound with a tallish Man with a long beard and turbin { Bin Laden } using an assault rifle while
clutching a woman { a hostage }.That narrative went on for a day or two.Until it became too dopey
to be believed.We were actually informed of this narrative { intense firefight by Bin Laden }
shooting a weapon around the corners of his compound while holding a woman hostage.
To make a long story { Bogus account } short ... The MSM was All-In on this Bin Laden Raid
narrative.However they got a little TOO eager beaver.They almost blew-it with the over the top
analysis.That Old faked pic of a Bin Laden lookalike that was offered as proof that Bin Laden
was surely killed was laughed off the internet.Because it proved to be a few years old and was
a mock pic of how Bin Laden would look if Killed in a firefight.
Not to be confused or conflated with how The Hussein Sons { Uday & Qusay } looked after their
firefight.
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Yes, a helicopter had mechanical problems during the raid. There is no obligation to allow you to look at pictures of US military aircraft in whatever condition whenever you want, however; your raving, once again, is an utter failure.

Actually no, the helicopter breaking down did not present a “hitch”; it potentially could have, but the SEALS worked around it and since it wasn’t shot down it’s not like it gave Osama advance notice.

There would be zero reason to bring it up—-that’s why “no one mentioned the live feed again”. It’s totally irrelevant to the actual raid. And no, it did not “prove many things didn’t add up” except in the fevered minds of nutjobs.

Gee, what a surprise. A terrorist scumbag had a rifle and was willing to shoot at US personnel. Truly shocking:roll:

So in other words you have zero proof of any sort and you expect people to just take your word for it. Sorry bud, nobody’s buying your crap.
 
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foolardi said:
Oh ! I get it ... how cute.But never too clever.
Not One photo of a slain Bin Laden.Not one frame of the takedown { Seal Helmut video camera }.
You'd a thunk that whomever thunk-up this Raid would back up the takedown.
Burial at Sea.How clever.No way ever to now locate a dead body.
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And there was exactly zero obligation for anyone to give you any such video of the takedown. The funny thing about SEALs is that they don’t give a **** about what nutjob CTers think.

And yes, that was the entire point. Like I said......they didn’t want anyone to have the chance to create an Al Qaeda shrine.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Yes, a helicopter had mechanical problems during the raid. There is no obligation to allow you to look at pictures of US military aircraft in whatever condition whenever you want, however; your raving, once again, is an utter failure.

Actually no, the helicopter breaking down did not present a “hitch”; it potentially could have, but the SEALS worked around it and since it wasn’t shot down it’s not like it gave Osama advance notice.

There would be zero reason to bring it up—-that’s why “no one mentioned the live feed again”. It’s totally irrelevant to the actual raid. And no, it did not “prove many things didn’t add up” except in the fevered minds of nutjobs.

Gee, what a surprise. A terrorist scumbag had a rifle and was willing to shoot at US personnel. Truly shocking:roll:

So in other words you have zero proof of any sort and you expect people to just take your word for it. Sorry bud, nobody’s buying your crap.
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Oh How lucky,then,for those like Obama and Hillary when making their cartoonish case
that some Muhammad Video was responsible for the Benghazi attack.
Good of you to explain how this stuff works.There was also live feeds on parts of the
Benghazi Attack.
 
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foolardi said:
Oh How lucky,then,for those like Obama and Hillary when making their cartoonish case
that some Muhammad Video was responsible for the Benghazi attack.
Good of you to explain how this stuff works.There was also live feeds on parts of the
Benghazi Attack.
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You need to explain your proof, if you have any.
 
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foolardi said:
Oh How lucky,then,for those like Obama and Hillary when making their cartoonish case
that some Muhammad Video was responsible for the Benghazi attack.
Good of you to explain how this stuff works.There was also live feeds on parts of the
Benghazi Attack.
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Oh look, even more hysterical shrieking from you. You CTers are simply incapable of handling reality.
 
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zyzygy said:
You need to explain your proof, if you have any.
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Again ... I get it now.Like the way Obama explained his Muhammad Video
cause of Benghazi attack to Susan Rice before she went on 5 sunday morning shows
to explain it.That kinda proof.Straight from the horses mouth.
You are being Stooged,on a number of fronts by this Gov'mint.
The Bin Laden Raid just so happened to be The biggest hoodwink in Modern
American history.
 
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foolardi said:
Again ... I get it now.Like the way Obama explained his Muhammad Video
cause of Benghazi attack to Susan Rice before she went on 5 sunday morning shows
to explain it.That kinda proof.Straight from the horses mouth.
You are being Stooged,on a number of fronts by this Gov'mint.
The Bin Laden Raid just so happened to be The biggest hoodwink in Modern
American history.
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Prove it. Merely saying something does not make it true. You CT fans don't seem to able to grasp that point.
 
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foolardi said:
Again ... I get it now.Like the way Obama explained his Muhammad Video
cause of Benghazi attack to Susan Rice before she went on 5 sunday morning shows
to explain it.That kinda proof.Straight from the horses mouth.
You are being Stooged,on a number of fronts by this Gov'mint.
The Bin Laden Raid just so happened to be The biggest hoodwink in Modern
American history.
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Well it's certainly in the top 10 or so.

I think SB, SH, BB are bigger, and of course the Grand Daddy of them all, WTC attacks.
 
foolardi said:
I've researched this and found very little evidence that Bin Laden was
even alive at the time of this Choreographed Raid that ended up Killing Bin Laden...……...
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When and where did OBL die? (name your source, we know you don't do links. :mrgreen:
 
mike2810 said:
When and where did OBL die? (name your source, we know you don't do links. :mrgreen:
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He died of natural causes in December 2001 and was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with muslim traditions. Several regional newspapers wrote about it, and even Bill O' mentioned it on his show.

I think Bill O's piece has gone to the internet graveyard, but I remember seeing it a few times.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Literally none of what you said is evidence of anything. It has nothing to do with your previous rant--- or even reality.

Yes, your claims are a lie. Not a grand one though......just utter crap.
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Not is any of it true. It doesn't even make sense. Why would the US military use a ch-47 full of SEALS to conduct a fire bombing. It just shipped how CT loons will believe anything s long as it is negative of the US government.
 
Thoreau72 said:
He died of natural causes in December 2001 and was buried in an unmarked grave in accordance with muslim traditions. Several regional newspapers wrote about it, and even Bill O' mentioned it on his show.

I think Bill O's piece has gone to the internet graveyard, but I remember seeing it a few times.
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There are still articles on the web about OBL passing in 2001. Articles that have been shown to be not true or are opinions.
For the OP. If he died in 2001 how convenient no photos. You pointed out no photos released by the SEAL team raid or burial at sea.
For T72. Some said natural causes, some say due to injuries from the bombing raid.
As far a Fetzer, you know my position dealing with Veterans Today articles.

"James Henry Fetzer, who is also a journalist with Veterans Truth Network"
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2015/05/13/410939/Osama-death-Afghanistan-t-Pakistan-


"A former Pakistani government official familiar with The Pakistan Observer said the newspaper has close ties with Inter-Services Intelligence, or I.S.I., the country's principal military intelligence agency. The agency backed the Taliban from 1994, when their Islamic hard-liners first emerged as a force, until Pakistan officially abandoned them after Sept. 11.
The former government official said that the paper could have been provided information about Mr. bin Laden by the intelligence agency, but he cautioned that this might only mean that Taliban supporters in I.S.I. wanted to mislead the United States into thinking that Mr. bin Laden might be dead in order to confuse efforts to track him down.
The Pakistan Observer's account included details on what purports to be Mr. bin Laden's funeral, but no specifics on where it occurred, or when, nor any information about the Taliban official who was the paper's supposed source. Nor did the article offer added information about Mr. bin Laden's alleged illness."

"sama bin Laden died after being maimed in an American air raid on the Tora Bora mountains of Afghanistan in December 2001, a French expert on the Arab world believes."
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ra-bora-air-raid-says-arab-expert-538318.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/26/...-level-murmurings-that-bin-laden-is-dead.html

One can believe whatever version they want. I tend to believe the SEAL raid.
 
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foolardi said:
A Majority of those 22 Dead Seals were from the Infamous Seal Team Six.
Seal Team 6 was started under Dick Cheney.
Seals were Instructed to NEVER utter a word about the Bin Laden Raid.
Especially among other Seals.
Now ... why would that be.
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It's hard to believe a person could fit that many untruths in one fairly short post. Well done.
 
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