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Question for UFO & Alien skeptics

OscarLevant

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I have a favor to ask of you. Please watch the film, "Unacknowledged", it's on Netflix and Amazon.

After you finish watching the entire film, has this film changed your mind at all or have you budged to any degree on your position on UFOs?
 
OscarLevant said:
I have a favor to ask of you. Please watch the film, "Unacknowledged", it's on Netflix and Amazon.

After you finish watching the entire film, has this film changed your mind at all or have you budged to any degree on your position on UFOs?
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lol...that's a big ask for a debate forum, bud... ;) You wanna lay out some bullet points?
 
OlNate said:
lol...that's a big ask for a debate forum, bud... ;) You wanna lay out some bullet points?
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I know it's a big ask but watching the entire film is necessary because the question is asking you if the film in its entirety has moved you at all on your skepticism.

If I wrote only the bullet points and the bullet points didn't change your mind, that wouldn't answer my initial question.

Yes, it's a big ask and of course no one has to bother I'm just saying for those who might bother let me know if you do thanks.

FYI I will mention that the film has many authorities in government, science, technicians, and Military contributing their testimonies. Please, if you manage to find the time as i believe this film is one of the most compelling films on UFOs, and gov secrecy (and why) as well as black budget programs ever produced.
 
OscarLevant said:
I have a favor to ask of you. Please watch the film, "Unacknowledged", it's on Netflix and Amazon.

After you finish watching the entire film, has this film changed your mind at all or have you budged to any degree on your position on UFOs?
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No.

Present your argument and link to the film, explain what it is about etc and I might.
 
Tim the plumber said:
No.

Present your argument and link to the film, explain what it is about etc and I might.
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I've updated the OP and it's on Netflix. I'm assuming most are members of Netflix if not don't bother. Amazon you have to buy it and I won't ask you to do that so there is no point on linking to it
 
OscarLevant said:
I have a favor to ask of you. Please watch the film, "Unacknowledged", it's on Netflix and Amazon.

After you finish watching the entire film, has this film changed your mind at all or have you budged to any degree on your position on UFOs?
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The perpetrators of this evil conspiracy are, according to the film, those in charge of “Black Programs,” which gobble up either $40 to $80 billion a year (as it is claimed early in the film) or $100 to $200 billion (as the narrator claims later in the movie).

To anyone of a skeptical mind-set a red flag pops up early in the film when a flood of witnesses claim to have seen the crashed spaceship and the bodies of its alien crew at Area 51. I didn’t initially recognize many of the names of those witnesses. One, however stood out: Lt. Col. Philip Corso, who authored a book titled The Day After Roswell. Here is what the noted UFO investigator Stanton Friedman had to say in his review of that book:

The first part of the book, with the exception of the strange Ft. Riley, Kansas warehouse scene with an alien body being observed by Corso on July 6, seems to have nothing to do with him. He admits he wasn’t involved at all in the recovery, investigation, or evaluation of what happened near Roswell. It is almost certainly based on the many Roswell books already published by Randle and Schmitt, Moore and Berlitz, and Don Berliner and myself, but with no attempt to validate or critically evaluate anything and no credits being given.

In the second half of the book Corso seems to be taking credit for the single handed introduction of a whole host of new technologies into American industry. All this is supposedly derived from the filing cabinet of Roswell wreckage over which he was given control by General Trudeau. He is very vague about details, and there is no substantiation for any of the claims on fiber optics, Kevlar, laser weapons, microcircuits, etc.1

That the person who is taking Corso to task and implying that he is a fraud is none other than Stanton Friedman is quite telling, since Friedman is perhaps the foremost apologist for the contention that an alien spaceship crashed at Roswell and that the government is covering it up.

https://www.skeptic.com/reading_roo...ocumentary-fails-at-proving-alien-visitation/
 
However, for the critiacl thinkrs amongst us, the slick production
deosn't quite cut it as this documentary fails to offer anything
new or a unique take on the UFO conspiracy. In fact most of the quotes
that appear on the screen throughout the film from military officials and notable
politicians, including former presidents are decades old.

https://www.higgypop.com/news/unacknowledged/
 
zyzygy said:
The perpetrators of this evil conspiracy are, according to the film, those in charge of “Black Programs,” which gobble up either $40 to $80 billion a year (as it is claimed early in the film) or $100 to $200 billion (as the narrator claims later in the movie).

To anyone of a skeptical mind-set a red flag pops up early in the film when a flood of witnesses claim to have seen the crashed spaceship and the bodies of its alien crew at Area 51. I didn’t initially recognize many of the names of those witnesses. One, however stood out: Lt. Col. Philip Corso, who authored a book titled The Day After Roswell. Here is what the noted UFO investigator Stanton Friedman had to say in his review of that book:

The first part of the book, with the exception of the strange Ft. Riley, Kansas warehouse scene with an alien body being observed by Corso on July 6, seems to have nothing to do with him. He admits he wasn’t involved at all in the recovery, investigation, or evaluation of what happened near Roswell. It is almost certainly based on the many Roswell books already published by Randle and Schmitt, Moore and Berlitz, and Don Berliner and myself, but with no attempt to validate or critically evaluate anything and no credits being given.

In the second half of the book Corso seems to be taking credit for the single handed introduction of a whole host of new technologies into American industry. All this is supposedly derived from the filing cabinet of Roswell wreckage over which he was given control by General Trudeau. He is very vague about details, and there is no substantiation for any of the claims on fiber optics, Kevlar, laser weapons, microcircuits, etc.1

That the person who is taking Corso to task and implying that he is a fraud is none other than Stanton Friedman is quite telling, since Friedman is perhaps the foremost apologist for the contention that an alien spaceship crashed at Roswell and that the government is covering it up.

https://www.skeptic.com/reading_roo...ocumentary-fails-at-proving-alien-visitation/
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The details of Corso are really not the subject of the film that's really another debate all together
 
my opinion is that there's possibly life out there, but it isn't visiting us in flying saucers. the distances are too vast.

however, it's so cool to wonder abut it.

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My opinion of unidentified flying objects, that are beyond the technological capabilities of mankind as we know it, has remained unchanged since that evening, at a 4 way stop sign/intersection, in a remote farming area, about 9 miles southeast of Jacksonville, Texas in 1979.

I know what I know. And I know what I don't know. I have no desire to discuss the matter.
 
zyzygy said:
I don't need to. I read all the reviews I could find. Pass
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That's too bad because I find all the reviews I've read that are negative are anemic compared to the richness of the film you really should watch it.
 
OscarLevant said:
Distance too vast for whom?
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for any biological creature incapable of folding the universe over on itself. the rules say that there's probably no way to exceed the speed of light unless infinite mass is something you enjoy, and probably not even then. look at that ****, man. those are galaxies. and those are just the ones that we can see. those distances are incredible.
 
Helix said:
for any biological creature incapable of folding the universe over on itself. the rules say that there's probably no way to exceed the speed of light unless infinite mass is something you enjoy, and probably not even then. look at that ****, man. those are galaxies. and those are just the ones that we can see. those distances are incredible.
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The question is how did these aliens find us? The chances are infinitesimally small.
 
I’m partial to the theory that we are among the first generation of intelligent life in the universe. In other words, we’re probably about as intelligent as it gets right now so there’s no chance that advanced alien peeping toms are visiting our planet.
 
zyzygy said:
The question is how did these aliens find us? The chances are infinitesimally small.
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probably they didn't. at least, i hope not. anything that can get here would be so more advanced than us that we're probably ****ed.
 
Helix said:
probably they didn't. at least, i hope not. anything that can get here would be so more advanced than us that we're probably ****ed.
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How could they have detected us? They would have to be in a sphere of about 90 light years in radius. It would take them years to get here and all they do is anally probe people and scare folks on lonely roads at night. Well, I suppose that aliens have teenagers too.
 
Helix said:
for any biological creature incapable of folding the universe over on itself. the rules say that there's probably no way to exceed the speed of light unless infinite mass is something you enjoy, and probably not even then. look at that ****, man. those are galaxies. and those are just the ones that we can see. those distances are incredible.
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There was a time when people thought the world was flat, was a time when it was believed an individual could not go faster than a horse.

You have no idea what aliens who might be thousands of years perhaps millions of years ahead of us have discovered.


Perhaps these aliens long ago thought outside of the box , discovered something that is unbeknownst to us , how do you know? You dont.
 
OscarLevant said:
There was a time when people thought the world was flat, was a time when it was believed an individual could not go faster than a horse.

You have no idea what aliens who might be thousands of years perhaps millions of years ahead of us have discovered.


Perhaps these aliens long ago thought outside of the box , discovered something that is unbeknownst to us , how do you know? You dont.
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Millions of years ahead of us and behave in the way they do when they visit us?
 
OscarLevant said:
I have a favor to ask of you. Please watch the film, "Unacknowledged", it's on Netflix and Amazon.

After you finish watching the entire film, has this film changed your mind at all or have you budged to any degree on your position on UFOs?
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Sounds thought provoking. Will watch and get back with you.

Thanks for the info.
 
zyzygy said:
However, for the critiacl thinkrs amongst us, the slick production
deosn't quite cut it as this documentary fails to offer anything
new or a unique take on the UFO conspiracy. In fact most of the quotes
that appear on the screen throughout the film from military officials and notable
politicians, including former presidents are decades old.

https://www.higgypop.com/news/unacknowledged/
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The review doesn't address some of the more significant items in the film , that review was anemic compared to the depth of the film. You should watch it.
 
OscarLevant said:
There was a time when people thought the world was flat, was a time when it was believed an individual could not go faster than a horse.

You have no idea what aliens who might be thousands of years perhaps millions of years ahead of us have discovered.


Perhaps these aliens long ago thought outside of the box , discovered something that is unbeknownst to us , how do you know? You dont.
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I doubt if they have solved the problem of breaking the speed of light barrier. Travelling at the speed of light would take infinite energy and you would have infinite mass.
 
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