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Ancient Giants On Earth?

Lumberjack said:
"There were Giants upon the Earth"....... by Zechariah Sitchin.


and The Official Web Site of Zecharia Sitchin


And it came to pass,
When men began to multiply on the face of the Earth
and daughters were born unto them,
that the sons of God saw the daughters of men
that they were fair, and they took them wives
of all which they chose.

There were giants upon the Earth
in those days and also thereafter too,
When the sons of God
came in unto the daughters of men
and they bare children to them—
the same Mighty Men of old,
Men of Renown.


https://grahamhancock.com/sitchinz1/
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If he says so then it must be true.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
See im thinking something like this. Like there were 2 species of human 20,000 years ago and when you breeded the normal humans with hairy beasty humans you got huge giant humans. Something that nature does like when you mix a Lion and a Tiger the genetics make the creature get REALLY big so it can help figure its own physiology out and then slowly it gets smaller and re-complexes itself if it can survive and breed.

I think one day scientists are gonna figure out this "catalyst" that makes strange genetic go "giantian" mode as it tries to figure out genetics and new physiology with a strange creature thats barely compatible.

I think in the future we will have 20 foot tall humans and they will be like.. our nations "champions"
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Er, no.
 
Elvira said:
From what I've read, Enoch is basically a fake, not written by Enoch at all but written around 2nd and 1st centuries BCE...it is a collection of unhistorical Jewish myths...thus the reasons for the omission...
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You and I can only speculate. It is possible that Enoch was excised for a reason we cannot even understand.
 
Thoreau72 said:
You and I can only speculate. It is possible that Enoch was excised for a reason we cannot even understand.
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Well, I'm sure TPTB have done more extensive research on such books than either one of us has so I will take their word for it...
 
Elvira said:
Well, I'm sure TPTB have done more extensive research on such books than either one of us has so I will take their word for it...
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When the public perception is being manipulated, there are no holds barred. When given the opportunity, one should cleanse the historical record, like burning the library at Alexandria.
 
beerftw said:
Ancient giants are not the most far fetched theory, many people today can tower over the average populations, so it is not implausible when average heights were smaller that someone could reach 8,10, 12, or even 15 feet tall. Granted if anyone then reached 15 feet it would be a genetic mutation or a disease involving human growth hormones but it is far from impossile, and truthfully if someone had a freak disease that made them 15 foot tall, I would have made them my greatest warrior just for the fear factor, even if they were so impaired by their height they could not walk anymore.

The crow magnums the ancestors of vikings were on average far taller than humans of their day, it is not a stretch that pre interbreeding a race of humans averaged much taller than even them, and had some freaks that overshadowed their already giant population. It is not hard to see how in those days a freak being even 9 foot tall could be called a giant, even if he was one in a billion even in those days.
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Tallest person on verified record was just shy of 9 feet. Heart failure is guaranteed well before 15 feet (among a ton of other problems). There are quite a few reasons why species have distinct ranges in size rather than growing to whatever size a mutation might potentially push them; ability to dissipate heat, bone structure/strength/etc.

And the reasons why evolution happens at a rather slow pace are also the reasons we'll never see a genetically normal human pair produce offspring in which the perfect set of just the right (millions and millions) of mutations are all present such that this new human-like species could manage to operate at a vastly greater size, like 15 feet. The probability approaches zero.
 
Mr Person said:
Tallest person on verified record was just shy of 9 feet. Heart failure is guaranteed well before 15 feet (among a ton of other problems). There are quite a few reasons why species have distinct ranges in size rather than growing to whatever size a mutation might potentially push them; ability to dissipate heat, bone structure/strength/etc.

And the reasons why evolution happens at a rather slow pace are also the reasons we'll never see a genetically normal human pair produce offspring in which the perfect set of just the right (millions and millions) of mutations are all present such that this new human-like species could manage to operate at a vastly greater size, like 15 feet. The probability approaches zero.
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I would argue the probability is far from zero, however I would agree health problems are rampant among the super tall, many unable to walk, some can walk with troubles, the tallest man on record observed died from an infection at a young age, and he needed braces to walk, the record holder prior to him could not walk at all after a certain point. I would imagine spinal problems leg problems heart problems etc would put people who could ever reach such heights in the grave by their early 20's, heck wadlow did not even die from back or heart problems, he died from a blister caused by an ankle brace he needed to walk, which lead to a septic infection.
 
I also wonder if some of these legends could have been fueled by people finding the fossils of large, extinct hominids like Gigantopithecus, which stood around 10 ft tall.
 
Dragonfly said:
I know a lady who believes Ancient Giants were real, and that there's a massive world-wide cover-up to keep it quiet.
She told me to check it out on the internet. So, I googled.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/04/searching-for-lost-giants_n_6097272.html

https://grahamhancock.com/dewhurstr1/

https://www.sciencealert.com/archae...ent-remains-of-5-000-year-old-giants-in-china


There's plenty of links to all kinds of "information".


Thoughts?

Were there once "giants" on planet Earth?
Is there a concentrated effort by some elite group of powerful people trying to keep it quiet?
If so, why? What's to fear about an extinct line of giants?
Or, are they extinct?
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My apologies for not looking at your links. I will in a bit.
I just wanted to point out Lovelock Cave where they actually did recover skeletons of red-haired giants who had been preying on the local Indians.
They got fed up and made war on them and corralled them in Lovelock cave and then built a big fire at the entrance and suffocated all of them.
I believe they were like 7 or 8 feet tall.

...and were well preserved in feet of bat guano.
 
dirtpoorchris said:
I absolutely beleive there was a chance that tthere was freak giants but im not sure about a whole race. Maybe 2 peoples genetics just met some weird crazy criteria and it produced a giant, like when a lion and a tiger breed together. Or maybe 20,000 years ago we had sasquatche type "things" that had a slight chance to breed with humans. I think vikings had lore of giant beast men raping women and making super hero type men.



They say there used to be an ancient island with a tribe of giant men... (if they did exist at one point in time they would have been killed / captured by some king and wed prolly never know about it) Just like their might be an ancient immortal dragon bound hidden underground somewhere is King Atlantis' basement.
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That film looks quite real. If so, has anyone found his skeleton?
 
PleasantValley said:
My apologies for not looking at your links. I will in a bit.
I just wanted to point out Lovelock Cave where they actually did recover skeletons of red-haired giants who had been preying on the local Indians.
They got fed up and made war on them and corralled them in Lovelock cave and then built a big fire at the entrance and suffocated all of them.
I believe they were like 7 or 8 feet tall.

...and were well preserved in feet of bat guano.
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Can't tell if your serious or not.

Let's hope not.
 
braindrain said:
Can't tell if your serious or not.

Let's hope not.
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No, I am completely serious.
They have the remains of them in some Nevada university.
Look it up.

A rancher found them while digging up bat guano for fertilizer on his property.
You can even visit the place.
it's all real. Including the red hair they all had.
 
PleasantValley said:
No, I am completely serious.
They have the remains of them in some Nevada university.
Look it up.

A rancher found them while digging up bat guano for fertilizer on his property.
You can even visit the place.
it's all real. Including the red hair they all had.
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You might actually want too do some more research. They are not real.
And not from a CT kook site.
 
PleasantValley said:
My apologies for not looking at your links. I will in a bit.
I just wanted to point out Lovelock Cave where they actually did recover skeletons of red-haired giants who had been preying on the local Indians.
They got fed up and made war on them and corralled them in Lovelock cave and then built a big fire at the entrance and suffocated all of them.
I believe they were like 7 or 8 feet tall.

...and were well preserved in feet of bat guano.
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In 1911 a pair of men from Lovelock discovered the cave's vast guano deposits, and spent a year digging it out and shipping it to a buyer in San Francisco. From the beginning their work was impeded by the density of artifacts mixed throughout the guano. Most of it they discarded into a rubbish heap outside the cave. In 1912 the work proved to be no longer worthwhile, when a meter or two down, the proportion of ancient artifacts exceeded the proportion of guano. They contacted the University of California and told them the cave was theirs to take over if they wanted, and the department head sent anthropologist Llewellyn L. Loud to check it out. The Humboldt Sink was well known for its open archaeological sites pertaining to the Lovelock Culture, but this was a previously unknown location.

And it turned out to be the greatest yet. Nobody in the fields of anthropology or archaeology has ever received a greater bounty than Loud did on that day. To the amazement of the scientific community, he collected over 10,000 artifacts from the rubbish heap and various regions of the cave, mostly along the walls where the miners had not cut. Loud's workload was such that it took him 17 years before he was finally able to publish a comprehensive account of his findings.

In none of it did he report anything pertaining to giants.

In 1924 Loud and M. R. Harringon, with a number of Paiute assistants, continued the exploration. Again, no giants were mentioned.

Further expeditions in 1936, by N. Nelson and Heizer and Krieger collected relics, but no giants.

Krieger returned in 1949, 1950, and 1965. Still no giants.

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4390
 
The silliness of the comparison between the "modern dental impression" (which includes only the teeth and a small portion of the gum line) and the Lovelock mandible should be evident to anyone who is breathing. It has been pointed out before. The total size of the cast is smaller because it doesn't include all the bone of the mandible. In what we are shown, the comparable parts of the cast the and the mandible (the teeth and the tooth row) do not really appear to be that different in size. Ancient Aliens only shows us the "normal" plaster cast sitting in front of the Lovelock mandible, however, and doesn't actually give us a view that allows a direct comparison.

https://www.andywhiteanthropology.c...a-jawbone-that-slips-over-that-of-a-large-man
 
Belieth said:
what's a CT kooksite and why may nothing come from there?
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It's the sites you quite obviously get ask your ideas from. As to why you shouldn't use them the fact that you have to ask is rather telling
 
braindrain said:
It's the sites you quite obviously get ask your ideas from. As to why you shouldn't use them the fact that you have to ask is rather telling
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But you don't seem to be able to answer my question and you can only throw an ad hominem.


Now, that's telling!
 
zyzygy said:
In 1911 a pair of men from Lovelock discovered the cave's vast guano deposits, and spent a year digging it out and shipping it to a buyer in San Francisco. From the beginning their work was impeded by the density of artifacts mixed throughout the guano. Most of it they discarded into a rubbish heap outside the cave. In 1912 the work proved to be no longer worthwhile, when a meter or two down, the proportion of ancient artifacts exceeded the proportion of guano. They contacted the University of California and told them the cave was theirs to take over if they wanted, and the department head sent anthropologist Llewellyn L. Loud to check it out. The Humboldt Sink was well known for its open archaeological sites pertaining to the Lovelock Culture, but this was a previously unknown location.

And it turned out to be the greatest yet. Nobody in the fields of anthropology or archaeology has ever received a greater bounty than Loud did on that day. To the amazement of the scientific community, he collected over 10,000 artifacts from the rubbish heap and various regions of the cave, mostly along the walls where the miners had not cut. Loud's workload was such that it took him 17 years before he was finally able to publish a comprehensive account of his findings.

In none of it did he report anything pertaining to giants.

In 1924 Loud and M. R. Harringon, with a number of Paiute assistants, continued the exploration. Again, no giants were mentioned.

Further expeditions in 1936, by N. Nelson and Heizer and Krieger collected relics, but no giants.

Krieger returned in 1949, 1950, and 1965. Still no giants.

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4390
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Thank you, zyzygy. This was the best and most polite way to correct my invalid idea.
Instead of superiorly saying I watch "kook" sites, you showed me with links the correct data.
This is how you can change someone's mind, and did.

Thank you again.

People listen when not insulted.
 
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