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Conspiracy theories are the Conspiracy

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Like most folks I know that there are things out there that the government doesn’t tell the people such as about the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadeq of Iran in 1953, the secret deal to remove Jupiter Missles from Turkey after the Cuban missile crisis. These are things that are either embarrassing for the government or done to preserve plausible deniability. But then there is conspiracy created by professional conspiracy theorists to completely distract the American people from things that could seriously benefit them.

Examples of harmful conspiracy theories:

1) 9/11 was an inside job.

There isn’t any proof for this at all. There are videos released by the media showing Osama Bin Laden bragging about the attacks. Bin Laden wanted to drag the US into a serious of unwinnable wars that will bankrupt the US. The US today has $21 trillion in debt on 9/11 it was less than $7 trillion. The debt since 9/11 has tripled in size. Yet the wars have produced zero tangible benefits for the US.

2) the Bilderberg Group/Trilateral Commission/the Illuminati

You would think with an ardent listener of Alex Jones in the White House in Trump. Trump can unwind the global conspiracies. But instead the supposed conspiracies have grown in size and proportion according the conspiracy under rock and behind every tree crowd among the Jones crowd.

As I said from the beginning the real conspiracy is that one that allows the growth of unchecked wealth into a smaller group of the super wealthy. The creation of a tiny kleptocratic minority ruling over a vast population of people living in desperate circumstances. The tax cuts cemented this inequality and made it even worse.

It’s no conspiracy, the ruling elite have wanted this since the time of FDR and his New Deal. They worked over decades to push the US back to the 1900s in terms of social mobility and economics. We have an extremely financially illiterate population that doesn’t understand that the real conspiracy is the one in government and economy was completely controlled by a tiny minority.
 
DcrtrUSpatriot said:
Like most folks I know that there are things out there that the government doesn’t tell the people such as about the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadeq of Iran in 1953, the secret deal to remove Jupiter Missles from Turkey after the Cuban missile crisis. These are things that are either embarrassing for the government or done to preserve plausible deniability. But then there is conspiracy created by professional conspiracy theorists to completely distract the American people from things that could seriously benefit them.
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Did you know the term conspiracy theory was created by the CIA as a tool to ridicule those who doubted the findings of the Warren Commission?

1) 9/11 was an inside job.

There isn’t any proof for this at all.
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There isn’t any proof for the OCT.

There are videos released by the media showing Osama Bin Laden bragging about the attacks.
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All of which are shown, by professional analysts, to be fake. Besides, OBL denied responsibility in an article published in Pakistan's Dawn newspaper about a few weeks later. Look it up.

the real conspiracy is that one that allows the growth of unchecked wealth into a smaller group of the super wealthy. The creation of a tiny kleptocratic minority ruling over a vast population of people living in desperate circumstances. The tax cuts cemented this inequality and made it even worse.
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That's the top of the pyramid. The other ones are simply to assist in maintaining their power and wealth.
 
DcrtrUSpatriot said:
Like most folks I know that there are things out there that the government doesn’t tell the people such as about the overthrow of Mohammed Mossadeq of Iran in 1953, the secret deal to remove Jupiter Missles from Turkey after the Cuban missile crisis. These are things that are either embarrassing for the government or done to preserve plausible deniability. But then there is conspiracy created by professional conspiracy theorists to completely distract the American people from things that could seriously benefit them.

Examples of harmful conspiracy theories:

1) 9/11 was an inside job.

There isn’t any proof for this at all. There are videos released by the media showing Osama Bin Laden bragging about the attacks. Bin Laden wanted to drag the US into a serious of unwinnable wars that will bankrupt the US. The US today has $21 trillion in debt on 9/11 it was less than $7 trillion. The debt since 9/11 has tripled in size. Yet the wars have produced zero tangible benefits for the US.

2) the Bilderberg Group/Trilateral Commission/the Illuminati

You would think with an ardent listener of Alex Jones in the White House in Trump. Trump can unwind the global conspiracies. But instead the supposed conspiracies have grown in size and proportion according the conspiracy under rock and behind every tree crowd among the Jones crowd.

As I said from the beginning the real conspiracy is that one that allows the growth of unchecked wealth into a smaller group of the super wealthy. The creation of a tiny kleptocratic minority ruling over a vast population of people living in desperate circumstances. The tax cuts cemented this inequality and made it even worse.

It’s no conspiracy, the ruling elite have wanted this since the time of FDR and his New Deal. They worked over decades to push the US back to the 1900s in terms of social mobility and economics. We have an extremely financially illiterate population that doesn’t understand that the real conspiracy is the one in government and economy was completely controlled by a tiny minority.
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Hmm -- contrary to popular belief, conspiracy theories, as seen on infowars actually provide the account of reality that's MOST accurate. Infowars is not entirely accurate but it's about as close to the truth as it gets from a quasi mainstream media outlet. Jones is being propped up by the state as an alternative source of information just to give representation to the marginalized groups that are victim to the states oppression, and thus get to witness it in full form.

Everything in society is planned, and pre-calculated. Government's like to control things for the sake of predictability and security. Do you actually think anything significant that happens in society is truly random?

9/11 WAS an inside job. Do you think it was just luck of the draw that Bush got to finish what daddy started? No -- it was PLANNED. Something about the way those towers went down, the congressional machinery rolled out, and soon enough, we're in Iraq, was just too perfect. It was like watching a theater performance. That Russian meddling with the U.S. election? Just a media spectacle to set the stage for the new 'Cold War' with Russia and provide a framework, or justification for whatever international intervention we are looking to carry out to advance the globalist agenda.
 
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Has USMB been kicking out their excess kooks or something lately? :roll:
 
Hi. My name is Maccabee and I'm a conspiracy theorist.
 
Endofdays said:
Hmm -- contrary to popular belief, conspiracy theories, as seen on infowars actually provide the account of reality that's MOST accurate. Infowars is not entirely accurate but it's about as close to the truth as it gets from a quasi mainstream media outlet. Jones is being propped up by the state as an alternative source of information just to give representation to the marginalized groups that are victim to the states oppression, and thus get to witness it in full form.

Everything in society is planned, and pre-calculated. Government's like to control things for the sake of predictability and security. Do you actually think anything significant that happens in society is truly random?

9/11 WAS an inside job. Do you think it was just luck of the draw that Bush got to finish what daddy started? No -- it was PLANNED. Something about the way those towers went down, the congressional machinery rolled out, and soon enough, we're in Iraq, was just too perfect. It was like watching a theater performance. That Russian meddling with the U.S. election? Just a media spectacle to set the stage for the new 'Cold War' with Russia and provide a framework, or justification for whatever international intervention we are looking to carry out to advance the globalist agenda.
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Now I know that you are joking.
 
zyzygy said:
Now I know that you are joking.
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Infowars has its problems, but conspiracy theorists do tend to provide a far more accurate depiction of the way the system works than the mainstream press, or even the discipline of history itself, which is a socially constructed fiction that assumes that the reality presented in the news is actually true (it's in fact anything but).

See above. 9/11 was a false flag. No questions asked...
 
Endofdays said:
Infowars has its problems, but conspiracy theorists do tend to provide a far more accurate depiction of the way the system works than the mainstream press, or even the discipline of history itself, which is a socially constructed fiction that assumes that the reality presented in the news is actually true (it's in fact anything but).

See above. 9/11 was a false flag. No questions asked...
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Prove it. I have never come across a believable 911 conspiracy theory, apart from the one about the 19 hijackers who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings. What kind of a truther are you? A no-planer? 911 CT fans come in many forms.
 
Endofdays said:
Infowars has its problems, but conspiracy theorists do tend to provide a far more accurate depiction of the way the system works than the mainstream press, or even the discipline of history itself, which is a socially constructed fiction that assumes that the reality presented in the news is actually true (it's in fact anything but).

See above. 9/11 was a false flag. No questions asked...
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Actually no. 9/11 wasn't a false flag and this is coming from someone who not too long ago thought it was.
 
Maccabee said:
Actually no. 9/11 wasn't a false flag and this is coming from someone who not too long ago thought it was.
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Out of interest what kind of a truther were you and what lead you to the truth?
 
zyzygy said:
Out of interest what kind of a truther were you and what lead you to the truth?
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I believed that the towers fell under a controlled demolition and that the planes that struck the towers were actually giant remote controlled drone missile. Basically I was your run of the mill 9/11 CT. I didn't buy into the space lasers and holographic planes. The thing that changed my mind was a Youtube channel called Myles Powers with his 9/11 series. I decided one day to actually listen to his counter arguments.
 
Maccabee said:
I believed that the towers fell under a controlled demolition and that the planes that struck the towers were actually giant remote controlled drone missile. Basically I was your run of the mill 9/11 CT. I didn't buy into the space lasers and holographic planes. The thing that changed my mind was a Youtube channel called Myles Powers with his 9/11 series. I decided one day to actually listen to his counter arguments.
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Couldn't the CIA hijack the planes or facilitate it? Why did you need to get rid of the planes?
 
ecofarm said:
Couldn't the CIA hijack the planes or facilitate it?
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Could be. But then we would be dealing with the unknown and unproven. Besides, what CIA agent would commit suicide just to pull off an elaborate hoax? I know those willing to serve their country that has a risk of losing their lives are loyal to their cause, but hardly anyone is loyal enough to commit completely avoidable suicide.

Why did you need to get rid of the planes?
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Because of the supposed object under the plane that supposedly doesn't exist on that particular plane.
 
Maccabee said:
Could be. But then we would be dealing with the unknown and unproven. Besides, what CIA agent would commit suicide just to pull off an elaborate hoax? I know those willing to serve their country that has a risk of losing their lives are loyal to their cause, but hardly anyone is loyal enough to commit completely avoidable suicide.



Because of the supposed object under the plane that supposedly doesn't exist on that particular plane.
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Thanks for the answers. So it wasn't that psychologically you were driven to remove the planes, it was that you had seen convincing "evidence"? Interesting.
 
ecofarm said:
Thanks for the answers. So it wasn't that psychologically you were driven to remove the planes, it was that you had seen convincing "evidence"? Interesting.
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Thanks for the (unintended?) complement.
 
Maccabee said:
Actually no. 9/11 wasn't a false flag and this is coming from someone who not too long ago thought it was.
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If it wasn't a FF, why was it planned and executed by one group and then falsely blamed on another group? That is, considering there were no Afghanis or Iraqis involved, why on earth did we invade Afghanistan and Iraq?
 
Endofdays said:
Infowars has its problems, but conspiracy theorists do tend to provide a far more accurate depiction of the way the system works than the mainstream press, or even the discipline of history itself, which is a socially constructed fiction that assumes that the reality presented in the news is actually true (it's in fact anything but).

See above. 9/11 was a false flag. No questions asked...
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Probably the reason you believe that BS is because you didn't bother asking any questions.
 
Thoreau72 said:
If it wasn't a FF, why was it planned and executed by one group and then falsely blamed on another group? That is, considering there were no Afghanis or Iraqis involved, why on earth did we invade Afghanistan and Iraq?
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The incident itself happened as depicted. Who was blamed was due to politics and hasty decisions.
 
Endofdays said:
Infowars has its problems, but conspiracy theorists do tend to provide a far more accurate depiction of the way the system works than the mainstream press, or even the discipline of history itself, which is a socially constructed fiction that assumes that the reality presented in the news is actually true (it's in fact anything but).

See above. 9/11 was a false flag. No questions asked...
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Yes, I get that you desperately want to cling to your fairy tale about 9/11 being an "inside job", but there's no actual evidence for that being the case.
 
zyzygy said:
Prove it. I have never come across a believable 911 conspiracy theory, apart from the one about the 19 hijackers who hijacked planes and flew them into buildings. What kind of a truther are you? A no-planer? 911 CT fans come in many forms.
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I'll prove 9/11 was a false flag with three news article links. Prepare to be blown away:

James "Eagan" Holmes called himself the Joker, Cops say:

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-suspect-joker-cops/story?id=16822251

Some guy from Eagan, MN, some guy named "Casper" called himself the Joker, and cursed out the Cops:

https://patch.com/minnesota/eagan/eagan-man-threatens-to-kill-officers-claims-he-is-the10c3735e05

The FBI refused to investigate 9/11 hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui after receiving a tip that he was trying to take flight lessons in Eagan, MN and was suspected of being a possible terrorist.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/01/mous-j05.html


There's more I haven't posted, but do you see the ghost?

Of course, this also implies that James Holmes and Casper were both mind control harassed/induced by the cops (acting on behalf of the gov).

Virtually every terrorist attack is a false flag.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Yes, I get that you desperately want to cling to your fairy tale about 9/11 being an "inside job", but there's no actual evidence for that being the case.
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See my post above. No evidence :roll:
 
Endofdays said:
See my post above. No evidence :roll:
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Yes, your fairy tales don't have any evidence to back them up. That's why they are fairy tales.

You took a nutcase from Colorado, a nutcase from Minnesota, and a ****up--- but an understandable ****up--- on the FBI's part and claimed that makes a "false flag". In case you didn't notice notice, the Joker is one of the most infamous fictional villians in American culture. People calling themselves "the Joker", especially nutjobs, is not a evidence.

You have zero evidence that either one of them was "mind controlled".

And zero evidence for your claim that "virtually every terrorist attack is a false flag"--- which, of course, is utter bull****.
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Tigerace117 said:
Yes, your fairy tales don't have any evidence to back them up. That's why they are fairy tales.
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Lol -- oh like you didn't see the post? Just ignoring the evidence. Like I'm a ghost. Reported as disinformation troll (a fraud related offense). Don't harass people on this site for trying to blow the whistle on public corruption.

If I post evidence, you respond to that evidence. That's harassment otherwise.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
Yes, your fairy tales don't have any evidence to back them up. That's why they are fairy tales.

You took a nutcase from Colorado, a nutcase from Minnesota, and a ****up--- but an understandable ****up--- on the FBI's part and claimed that makes a "false flag". In case you didn't notice notice, the Joker is one of the most infamous fictional villians in American culture. People calling themselves "the Joker", especially nutjobs, is not a evidence.

You have zero evidence that either one of them was "mind controlled".

And zero evidence for your claim that "virtually every terrorist attack is a false flag"--- which, of course, is utter bull****.
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How about the fact that Casper cursed out the police? How about the fact that James Holmes looked like he raided an army bunker and stole all their equiptment? And calling themselves the joker is distinctive. Do people just go out of their gourde and start calling themselves a batman villain? What about Amanda and Jerad Miller, who also dressed like the Joker.

And why do two people call themselves the joker, with one of them having the middle name Eagan, and the other one being from Eagan, MN? Where are all the people calling themselves the joker that did not go postal or get arrested or commit some crime? And we ain't talking Halloween costumes. We're talking about an internalized belief about reality (but in this case not genetically delusion because they police induced their belief that they represented this "Joker" archetype).

This is called circumstantial evidence man. It's not something we just ignore. And it is not 'fairy tales' with no evidence to back it up. This is not mere coincidence.

And you still haven't explained why the FBI failed to investigate a terrorist involved in the largest terrorist attack on american soil. How about all those shooters they investigated, did nothing about, and then watched em go postal later? The FBI is a terrorist organization!!! They misrepresent who they are! The only person believing in fairy tales is you!

Now did I really need to explain why that was evidence? It should have been obvious enough on its surface. Those coincidences are just way too improbable. They are circumstantial evidence.

Read about Federal Conspiracy Law

A conspiracy may be evidenced by:

"word or action; that is, the government may prove the
existence of the agreement either by direct evidence or by circumstantial evidence from which the
agreement may be inferred... Relevant circumstantial evidence may include: the joint appearance of defendants at transactions and negotiations in furtherance of the conspiracy; the relationship among codefendants; mutual representation of defendants to third parties; and other
evidence suggesting unity of purpose or common design and understanding among conspirators
to accomplish the objects of the conspiracy.”

Of course, I have not gotten into all the separate evidence that the Holmes shooting was a false flag. As you know, many have alleged that the mass shooters are Manchurian Candidates, being mind control induced by the government.
 
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Endofdays said:
I'll prove 9/11 was a false flag with three news article links. Prepare to be blown away:

James "Eagan" Holmes called himself the Joker, Cops say:

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/aurora-dark-knight-suspect-joker-cops/story?id=16822251

Some guy from Eagan, MN, some guy named "Casper" called himself the Joker, and cursed out the Cops:

https://patch.com/minnesota/eagan/eagan-man-threatens-to-kill-officers-claims-he-is-the10c3735e05

The FBI refused to investigate 9/11 hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui after receiving a tip that he was trying to take flight lessons in Eagan, MN and was suspected of being a possible terrorist.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2002/01/mous-j05.html


There's more I haven't posted, but do you see the ghost?

Of course, this also implies that James Holmes and Casper were both mind control harassed/induced by the cops (acting on behalf of the gov).

Virtually every terrorist attack is a false flag.
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All you showed was coincidences. Hardly even considered evidence, much less proof. C'mon, you can do better than that. I used to believe that 9/11 was an inside job with harder evidence than what you provided.
 
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